Tired of the flat black craze?

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Try flat white

Project Rebound (See sig)

'91 MX-5, 1.8 swap, 1.8 Brakes, FM Springs, KYB AGX, Custom Intake, Thermal exhaust, Brainstorm Chassis Braces, OEM Cockpit Brace 15x7 Konig Rewind w/ 205/50 Azenis

Hmmm, looks like enough room for a 15mm spacer

It's not my old car but it's a start. What do you guys think?


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it looks a ****load better than flat black, thats for sure. i've always secretly been a miata fan. i'd like to make one a project some day. so is this what has been taking up your time since the theft?

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Looks nice. Glad to see more people with white cars. Can you educate me on the engine swap? What came in the car stock and what car is the 1.8 from? Stock hp? Also konig rewinds are hot. Great looking smaller diameter wheels.

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Nice looking NA! It's still my favorite Miata. I need one.I really dig the rewinds. And the flat white looks good.
rudee023 wrote:Tired of the flat black craze?
Not as tired as I am of the sleepy eye craze! PLEASE, close the lights! It looks TERRIBLE on the MX-5!

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i think the 'flat' craze in itself is, put simply, dumb.

If that's your car, the front bumper and headlights don't even match with the rest of the car. They are like a cream color.

Now maybe it's just crazy talk here, but wouldn't a clear coat add some level of protection for the paint and even the body panels? oh well...

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flat is um flat. would rather just sand down the original paint a tad and restore it if possible with some oem paint and a new clear coat... as long as the car has no dents/scratches it looks okay. it'll do temporarily but i'd save up real paint asap. or keep it primered instead... and drive that siet to mexico for some cheap labor

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Tired of the flat black craze?

no, but i am tired of the sleepy eye craze..

but yea, that white looks real nice man.

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how do you clean flat white?

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vvaffle wrote:Looks nice. Glad to see more people with white cars. Can you educate me on the engine swap? What came in the car stock and what car is the 1.8 from? Stock hp? Also konig rewinds are hot. Great looking smaller diameter wheels.
the original engine in that car is a 1.6 liter engine getting 116hp. In 1994 a new 1.8 liter engine came with the miata producing 133hp. Its a very easy swap and they sell kits for like $200 and then all u need is the engine which is fairly cheap also.

Ive herd arguments on both sides for which engine is better and its basically the same here which is better KA-T or SR20.

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Well, it was done because originally the car had two bad paint jobs, one of which was wrinkle paint (yep, you heard right) As for the sleepy eyes, I like them so Nyah! I got to get some power though, it's pretty slow but handles surprisingly well. Maybe a supercharger in the future.

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Miatas kik *** handling is great really fun to drive

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looks good, but dude u got a lazy sleepy eye. Haha one is more sleepy.

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Nice. Tell me it's primer for another paint job.

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Bruno240 wrote:
the original engine in that car is a 1.6 liter engine getting 116hp. In 1994 a new 1.8 liter engine came with the miata producing 133hp. Its a very easy swap and they sell kits for like $200 and then all u need is the engine which is fairly cheap also.

Ive herd arguments on both sides for which engine is better and its basically the same here which is better KA-T or SR20.
so you let's calculate what went on here

$200 + $cost of engine - $whatever you got for yours + install time = 17hp gain

is that worth it?!

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0wn3r wrote:so you let's calculate what went on here

$200 + $cost of engine - $whatever you got for yours + install time = 17hp gain

is that worth it?!
First off, all that really matters is the horsepower percentage gain, not the straight-up number. Numbers will always be smaller on smaller engines.

Second, the 1.8L will react better to modifications than the 1.6 will, and so that's an added bonus of the swap beyond just the hp gained bone stock.

Honestly, it's a cheap enough swap that it really comes down to preference. I happen to like the 1.6L to be honest, I think it's one of the most pleasant engines ever designed, not to mention that it probably has more aftermarket support in Japan than the 1.8L does (a la ITB's and such, Mmmmmm)

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I also read somewhere that the 1.6 revs a bit better than the 1.8. That Miata looks like a happy catfish and yes the sleepy eyes look hanous on the MX-5. I'd like to drive one....I've never had teh pleasure.

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i think a primer white is the way to go

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HashiriyaS14 wrote:
First off, all that really matters is the horsepower percentage gain, not the straight-up number. Numbers will always be smaller on smaller engines.

Second, the 1.8L will react better to modifications than the 1.6 will, and so that's an added bonus of the swap beyond just the hp gained bone stock.

Honestly, it's a cheap enough swap that it really comes down to preference. I happen to like the 1.6L to be honest, I think it's one of the most pleasant engines ever designed, not to mention that it probably has more aftermarket support in Japan than the 1.8L does (a la ITB's and such, Mmmmmm)
so it'd what, like a 12-14 % increase in hp and instead of 72.5hp per liter you're now getting 73.9hp per liter. i dunno, to me it still doesn't seem worth it... i dont know much about miatas or the difference in the two, but if you wanted displacement i'm sure you could just get a camaro...

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Dammit. I have been wanting to go flat white for as long as I have had my S13. I knew I should have gotten off my lazy arse and done it

Looks good!!

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Looks good. I still love your old 240.

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heh the s13 vert i just bought came with accidental flat white paint...

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i dig the white mroe than the black. im just not a huge fan on the flatness of it. i like something that can shine! like that gorgeous s13 right above me, sup maaco?

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It makes a big difference in forced induction for the car. The 1.6 is ****ing GREAT with a nice turbo slapped onto it, while the 1.8 feel a hell of a alot better with a supercharger.

All that fun stuff.

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Nice I used to own a red miata but not good for snow here in ohio or anywhere any way looking for power I have heard of a guy that put a 302 in a miata and was crazy fast may want to look into it ??? it would scare the bejeebies out of many

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do you roll around wearing a scarf and bumping ricky martin in that car?

seriously though, that paint looks identical to my crappy S13 paint

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Personally, I prefer about 17 and a half layers of clear coat...Do you have any plans for forced induction? Blower or turbo? What's next on the list?

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i'd love to flat (color) my car, but the damn cops will pull me over some more...

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Accord-240sx wrote:how do you clean flat white?
sandpaper.

seriously, once white primer gets stained you either have to do a recoat or sand it lightly with 1500 or something similar.

I love Miata's, good find!

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skydragoness wrote:
sandpaper.

seriously, once white primer gets stained you either have to do a recoat or sand it lightly with 1500 or something similar.

I love Miata's, good find!
so instead of finding a car wash you have to go to a woodshop. rofl

Might be somethin with kouki owners, but I'm with Jimmy.

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i think im gonna flat gold my car


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