timing chain guard

[jamesblonde82]

tell me if im bad, but i saved myself quite a bit of denero. after passing by a car, now my vert, in someone';s drivway for a few years each time saying how i want it....i finally seen it up for sale. i didnt hesitate to call the number. it was a woman in her early 50's who it belonged to. the car was in near perfect shape. she went on telling me how the top is new, the carpet and the leather is all new...and the a/c is new, and it even had a good set of tires on it. so i cranked it up and i got scared away fast... a LOUD noise coming from the engine... clunking and clanking, sounding like some bad valves. so i went home dissapointed that day... but i did some research, to hope that its not valves, because that sure was loud for valves, and the engine ran perfect, no missing, you cant feel the engine running when its idle. so i researched and found out about a recall on the timing chain guard, and bingo, i took a mechanic's stethascope to the car and cranked it up again..... i knew what it was that was it i was so happy. so i began to bargain with the lady. she was asking 3500. now this is the part where you might say took advantage of the situationk, and you'd be damn right. so i said it's basically not worth a whole lot cause the engine is bad, i talked her down to 700!!! ok i felt bad for alittle, but she had money and i dont have that much so i didnt even need a loan, i was so proud of my skills. so as soon as i towed it home (because i was afraid the broken timing chain guard would get caught in the chain somewhere as it has b4 in some cars i read) i took off the valve cover and threw that piece of crap metal somewhere in the woods. replaced the cover nicely, and started her up and u can stand next to that car and not know it's on. tell me who's your daddy?

[nissanconvert]

amazing, i say if it needed somthing fixed that she couln't do and she was happy with the 700 then be happy at your money making skills. i got suckered into paying 3k for mine and foud out later that it had been wrecked but not reported. Funny how when it got cold out the passenger door doesn't close and upon closer inspection the gray sticker line is actually painted on. Live and learn.

[sxcoupe]

what year is it, good deal you took her for a ride. can you say rape.

[jamesblonde82]

haha, thanks. rape tho... shyt, the girls pay me! haha ok so here it is... she's a 92' real pretty. i posted a few pics of it earlier a couple dayz ago. so give it a look see. thinkin of paiting the brake calipers, or is that stupid? white of course.

[sxcoupe]

were are pics is your car white. white seems a little strange for brake. i think red or even yellow looks good for brakes. but not yellow if your car is white. that will look horrible. post pics what color is the car

[sxcoupe]

i think stock brakes look much beter when there painted. if done well and are good contrasting color.

[jamesblonde82]

were are pics is your car white. white seems a little strange for brake. i think red or even yellow looks good for brakes. but not yellow if your car is white. that will look horrible. post pics what color is the car

they are right here on this forum... but here is a link check it out, its precious.

zerothread?id=165219

i've seen white calipers on white cars b4, not a nissan 240 though.... stock wheels, so it woudlnt be all that noticable....what do you think about painting the wheels white? or maybe black, black would prolly be nicer looking cuz it goes with the top and interior. black wheels, white calipers...whattya think?? dont hurt my feelings either...lol

[sxcoupe]

i guess white wouldent look bad. but those weels look like there in good shape. leave them as they are i think the only reson some paint them is when clear cote gets all scratched up. besides i never seen a good paint job on those it always looks like sh*t. nice ride, you have to get rid of that granny steering weel wrap unless you plan on leting your granny drive it. do you plan on doing any other mods. that car is in great shape do you know were that lady lives. i like to see if she's selling any thing else. like maybe her house for a cuple hundred. no seriosly great deal on a great ride. ps.. paint your breaks but leave you weels alone and use engine paint or atleast paint that can take the heat.

[sxcoupe]

hey did you remove timing chain guards yourself. how hard was it , thats a job i have to do. but i have been puting it off. i have 92 240 coupe and there both the same engine. so if you can give me any info on how it went, or if there were any tricky parts of the job that would be great

[jamesblonde82]

hey did you remove timing chain guards yourself. how hard was it , thats a job i have to do. but i have been puting it off. i have 92 240 coupe and there both the same engine. so if you can give me any info on how it went, or if there were any tricky parts of the job that would be great

omg dude it's so easy. just pull out your spark plugs and everything and take off all the bolts that hold on your valve cover, but be very careful not to damage teh gasket... then you'll see the chain guard in the very front just remove it, it is two bolts then put everything back together...make sure the gasket seats right.....later

[sxcoupe]

so you dont have to take the front cover off

[sxcoupe]

see here is a pic of s14 and were the gards are. so they are not like this in s13 becouse i dont think you can get to both of them just from valve cover.

[sxcoupe]

it seems like its easy on s13, but i thoght s13 -s14 had same engine ka24de are these what you removed. these are all pic's i got from the instrution page on this site. in that it seem like there are alot step's to remove the guards. im not douting you i just never did this job and i want to be sure i do it right.

[sxcoupe]

see here's the one i think you removed but i think your supost to remove both.

[sxcoupe]

here is the link cheak it out and tell me what you think.

[jamesblonde82]

yea i just removed the top one, and thats all i thought i needed to take off. hmmm, the noise quit....i will read up on that link later tho cuz i am down in the keys on spring break...lol

[sxcoupe]

whatch out some of those girl's down the key's are not realy girl's. unless you like that sort of thing.
Modified by sxcoupe at 7:18 AM 3/26/2006

[jamesblonde82]

well im finally back home today....ya there were some drag queens down there, but heylong as they dont touch me im ok. anyway, that write up in that link you showed me tells how to do it very well. i only took off my top chain guard, the bottom one really isn't necessary to remove unless you're really worried about it breaking like my top one was. i was scared to death to drive it anymore cuz i didnt want it to go into where the gears and stuff are. but since my bttm one is fine, i think i will leave it alone. is yours broken or do you just want to take it out b4 it breaks?

[sxcoupe]

ya im not sure but i think i will just take the top one off. it seem's easy to do, that bottom one looks a little tricky to get to.was your's broke or just worn. becouse i heard that if they break off your in deep sh*t. ps.. i could not rezist posting that pic of that transmission, thats my older brother did you have a good time.

[jamesblonde82]

haha cool, there's gayness in my family too. yes i had a very very good time. guess what mine was actually broken off and work to almost nothing. if i had waited any longer i woulda been in deep ****. it was making the most horrible noise ever like "marbles in a tin can" i bought the car cheap cause i told the owner that the valves are really bad and it needs to be rebuilt. gotta save money. but ya when i took off the valve cover my chain guard was actually broken off and just sittin on top of the timing chain. i guess it hadnt worn it down quite enough so that it would fit down through the side where it woulda caused a lot of damage. i need to change my water pump though, it leaks very very slowly but its kinda annoying. about every 2 weeks i add more coolant. so maybe when i do that i will take that bottom chain guard off. i was thnkin though? wasnt this an actual recall, and couldnt you just take it to a nissan place where they will do it free of charge? that would be nice

[sxcoupe]

that would be nice, im not sure on the recall but if you find any thing out on that. "post it" becouse i think you make alot of 240 owners happy. if your's was broke i would be concernd about the lower one. if your alredy doing the pump i would take it out why you have it open. then you dont have to worry about it. how many miles on your car. ps..no im not gay, that i know of. but they might think you are with that queer steering weel cover.
Modified by sxcoupe at 5:09 AM 3/28/2006

[jamesblonde82]

omg you people need to quit making fun of my steering wheel cover.... i mean come on, it came with the car when i bought it, and the steering wheel itself looks like the lady had her dog chew on it... so i left it on. gimme a break. my car has 160K miles on it.... just rebuilt the transmission. also fyi you can put a used pathfinder transmission in it if u ever need to. i just rebuilt mine, looks like someone already swapped the orig one for a used pathfinder, then that one's torque convertor gave out, so i rebuilt the whole thing cause i figured why not the gears slipped. the clutches were so worn down to the metal, glad i did that.... ok peace and happiness, no im not a hippy h0m0.

[sxcoupe]

just posted this on the thread with pic's did not know if you would see it. did you do 5spd swap, you have 5spd gauge but auto shift whats up with that.

[jamesblonde82]

i have a 5 speed gage? what you mean? no it's still got the auto in it. with extra thick clutches cuz its the pathfinder transmission.

[sxcoupe]

dose the pathfinder transmission have the same gear response. i would think if any thing it would have more torque. because the pathfinder is a much heavyer veicle.

[jamesblonde82]

it seems to shift faster because there's not as much weight to push when its shifting i suppose. it may not shift smoothly enough for an old man or something. but it makes it fun when i punch it going around a corner. yay

[sxcoupe]

did you put the transmission in, or how do you know its from a pathfinder. i am removeing my chain guides tomorow if my gasket comes in. hope the job goes good.

[jamesblonde82]

the transmission was already in it, but i took it out, said, hey thats a pathfinder transmission, and fixed it and put it back in. good luck with your project. and make sure your tensioner is working good. you know play with it make sure it moves back and forth fluidly as possible. clean it if needed. alright peez.

[sxcoupe]

i chickend out i only removed the top one. it seemed to be over my head to go in and get the other one. but my clicking is still there i might be insane but i almost think it sounds worse. my top one did not look to bad. i think some of what im hearing is coming from tored the back of valve cover. i dont remember ever hearing this sound,like the engines regular sound is amplifide more taping. the only thing i can think the new gasket is some how makeing it do this. i did have slite oil leak from gasket, so thats why i changed it. do you think in any way that having a beter seal could somehow make the engine louder. i would think if anything it would be less noise, but what do i know
Modified by sxcoupe at 6:00 PM 3/30/2006

[jamesblonde82]

no it woudlnt make it louder. hmm, did you make sure your tensioner was working properly? oh wait n/m, you didnt pull it apart to see. hmm, you def sont want the chain smackin the valve cover, and i think thats whats happening possibly. it would be a good idea to prolly do the second one....and check your tensioner. also while you got that shyt apart, might as well replace the waterpump, they're cheap. but a good thing to have is a mechanic's stethascope, i have one and it helped me pinpoint where the noise is coming from. i woudlnt run it too much with it sounding louder now, the guard you removed was prolly keeping it from hitting the valve cover. those tensioners will gunk up and not do thier job well if at all. so i dunno what to tell ya man, but to bite the bullet and finish the job. im lucky that all i needed to do was my top one, but the lady i bought it from changed the oil on it like a fanatic crazy hoe. which is good.... ok well good luck and such