Timing Chain Cover

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Ok whats up with the timing chain cover? Do I actually have to take the WHOLE oil pan off? The oil pick up tube is stopping me from getting it off by like just 1/4". Anyone know of any tricks to get it off?


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yes, when the motor was out, you should have punched a square into your upper oil pan, tapped two threaded holes into the front and build a small aluminum block thing that will fit into the cut out and mate with the front cover flush so when it comes around to doing your front cover, you won't have to end yourself/

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180, maybe i'm just tired and the coffee really is not having any effect on me, or that just didn't make any sense.

But to answer the original question, I recommend that you removed the whole upper oil pan. The reason being is that liquid gasket maker is used to seal the upper pan to the block and front cover. When you pull the front cover off, you break the seal of the upper pan. If you just simply slap more gasket maker on, it doesn't make a continuous bead anymore and will probably leak where the new gasket maker meets the old gasket maker.

As far as the oil dipstick tube, remove it. All you need is a bladed screwdriver, or preferably a prybar, and a hammer. Then tap away at it from the bottom to knock it out of it's hole and just put it off to the side.

And to help save you some time and trouble later on, reprime your oil pump by putting some petrolium jelly in the pump gears. It'll help keep a prime in the pump so you don't have to worry about building pressure when you restart the car. Plus the jelly will dissolve into the oil and you won't have to worry about it again.

Finally, when you're reinstalling the front cover, don't put the oil pump spacer on the crank nose. This way you have some play room to put the front cover on and won't destroy the part of the headgasket that sticks out over the cover. Then you can mess with the pump gear until it lines up to allow you to slide the spacer on.

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lol Bart you were right. my post didn't make sense. it's been a long day.

here's what i did with some more clarity. When the motor is out, you can cut out a rectangular section out of the upper pan (where the part of the oil pump juts out) and build a plug to fit into that cut out section. With the now cut upper oil pan, you can fabricate a small metal block to fill up that gapthat is now between the upper oil pan and the front cover. This makes for an easier time when it comes to service later on.

otherwise, the upper pan's gonna have to come off, ie you're screwed.

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do you have pictures of this contraption?

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tenkawa_akito wrote:
As far as the oil dipstick tube, remove it. All you need is a bladed screwdriver, or preferably a prybar, and a hammer. Then tap away at it from the bottom to knock it out of it's hole and just put it off to the side.
I can't figure out how to do it so I'm going to pull the engine heh which is pretty much just the block then pull off the oil pan


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