TIE RODS?

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SR22DET
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i've done a search and nothing really helped me.... now i know SPL is one of the sponsors so of course everyone will say they're excellent but i just want straight up truth personally i dont think the z32 rods are stronger than kazama and the tein ones seem just like the stock ones and their ends seem stock with the rubber (or polyurethane?) bushing so i'm doubtful... if anyone could say which one's are pretty much top of the line that would be greatly appreciated

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Tie Rodshttp://www.store.yahoo.com/pha....html

Tie Rod Endshttp://store1.yimg.com/I/phase...80464http://www.store.yahoo.com/pha....html

JIC has beefy Tie RodKazama pillowball Tie Rod Ends are massivePhase2 sells both

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Talk to phase-2 and SPL, both are top notch companies. I love the service I get from both.

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SR22DET wrote:i've done a search and nothing really helped me.... now i know SPL is one of the sponsors so of course everyone will say they're excellent but i just want straight up truth personally i dont think the z32 rods are stronger than kazama and the tein ones seem just like the stock ones and their ends seem stock with the rubber (or polyurethane?) bushing so i'm doubtful... if anyone could say which one's are pretty much top of the line that would be greatly appreciated

THANKS
tein, z32, jic, kazama tie rods are all basically the same thing. if you break a tie rod, you have done somthing very wrong, so worrying about which one is stronger in this area dosent really matter, imho.

tein rod ends are basically stock replacment so they cant be compared too closley to the other stuff. this is why they cost so much less. the ends just have a grease baloon setup like stock and will perform as such.

kazama, kts, spl rod ends are all performance oriented with solid bushings, this will increase your steering response and such with increased harshness blah blah. they also allow for some bumpsteer correction from lowering the car. right now im running the spl tie rod ends with the v2 spacer, so far they are working nicley, we shall see how it goes.

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thanks a lot to everyone for the info and i though of going jic inner and spl outer but maybe just tein cuz i need to do more stuff to my car before i get it drifting.. cough cough like a 5 speed swap

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by the way i didnt do nething wrong just i bought the car with stock everything and after 125k the bushing wore out so yeh i could just get it replaced but i could just as well get better one's while i'm under there....

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JIC has beefy Tie RodKazama pillowball Tie Rod Ends are massivePhase2 sells both[/QUOTE]

just wondering but which ones are better the kazama outer or the kts cuz it seems like kazama has the black polyurethane or something but kts are full metal and also the SPL one are hell of adjustable but what is all that for ??? helps on yer ride height adjustment??

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I purchased the SPL ends I haven't found the rods that I want yet. It seemed to me the new style ends posted on their website here with install instructions http://www.splparts.com/doc/SP....htm are for multiple different configurations depending on the actual lowered height of your vehicle. They are solid no bushings, high quality product. I will see how they work once I get some rods.

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kazama and kts outer rod ends are both the same thing with a different colored buckle. they are inferior to the SPL units because they use a relativley short aluminum buckle which can possibly break during hard driving (reference msports car at d1), and the range of adjustment is very small.

the main point of an adjustable tie rod end is to correct bumpsteer gained from lowering a car and distorting the original suspension geometry. thats why the SPL units were designed with so much adjustment.


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i'm sorry to be so annoying but i just dont want to throw cash out on something that will get f'd up cuz i'm 17 and money is VERY hard to come across.. but yeh... has anyone heard of C-tune and they're suspensions stuff quality? i know Nadine runs C-tune stuff on her 180 but yeh i was just wondering

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c tune is ghetto, but people use it somtimes. i wouldnt reccomend it but if you were super poor then it might be a good option. whatever you do, dont buy the rear upper arms, ive seen pics of thoes broken like 3 times.

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thank u very much and i am going with SPL/ JIC tie rods

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check this out.

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SR22DET wrote:thank u very much and i am going with SPL/ JIC tie rods
Why are you going with JIC inners?

They are just S14 inner tie rods painted gold with a JIC logo on them.

The reason we went to a Z32 inner tie rod is that they are thicker in shaft diameter, and ARE stronger than any rod on the market.

We considered the best parts of Tein, JIC, Kazama, KTS, and many other manufacturers of the same components before we designed ours to be better.

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okie that i was not aware of... like i said i learn through my stupidity and now plans are changint to go with just what SPL offers the "tie rod set".... by the way why are the JIC inners so expensive then? and are there going to be any adjustmnets needed to be done to the steering rack considering the z32 tie rod innner is probably longer? THANK U NISMO FREAK

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nope, the rod ends account for that. just take the whole assymbly off and make the new set the same length.

i think the z32 rods are shorter, i never layed them next to each other.

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I found out my shanks were bent when I went to get my car aligned with less than 100 miles on them. Both shanks are bent. I didn't hit any pot hoes, curbs, and they don't bind up. So I'm at a loss on what happened.

I just emailed SPL and they will have two new shanks coming overnight

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chmercer wrote:c tune is ghetto, but people use it somtimes. i wouldnt reccomend it but if you were super poor then it might be a good option. whatever you do, dont buy the rear upper arms, ive seen pics of thoes broken like 3 times.
I want to see these pics. Im riding ctune rucas for almost a year and haven't had any problems yet. i've been to 2 autox events, 2 drift events, and daily drive my car.

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574-240sx wrote:I found out my shanks were bent when I went to get my car aligned with less than 100 miles on them. Both shanks are bent. I didn't hit any pot hoes, curbs, and they don't bind up. So I'm at a loss on what happened.

I just emailed SPL and they will have two new shanks coming overnight
when did you buy them? there was a delay in my order because they changed the design about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

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will spl ends (latest version) fit on the tein inner rods? is the threaded part the same?

all this talk makes me want to correct my bumpsteer.

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check out thier site, they have two versions, one for the z32 rods and one for s14/tein rods

here's a blurry pic of the high strength spacer, is that what yours look like 574-240sx? the spacer braces the shank against the spindle, making the whole thing stronger.




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so i guess i'm SOL with my s13 tein setup? or are there any differences between the s13 - s14 rods?

thanx for the pic.

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I didn't have the new spacers installed. I was going to have them install them at the alignment shop. I figured less than 100miles spaced at .4" would be fine. I had my car put together before the new version with spacers came out. I guess the new ones with new spacers will be installed tomorrow when they arrive.


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