Throttle Response

[soltys]

Have any of you found any sort of aftermarket parts/accessories for the Rogue that would increase throttle reponse and performance. It's the wifes car so it's not as big of deal to me but when I'm driving it, I'd like it to have a little for snap.

[kerrton]

Just apply more throttle/push harder on the gas peddle, the Rogue will take off with better acceleration than most cars on the road!

As you do this, over time the CVT will make minor adjustments to suite your driving style - in your case it will select and hold a lower gearing and apply more throttle anticipating your driving requirements. For example, I drive with a very light foot, and over time the CVT has adjusted to the point where now as I take off from a stand still the CVT will kick into the highest gear within a couple seconds, very early on and I get great gas mileage around town. It didn't always perform like this, but over time has learned my driving style and now anticipates and provides the higher gearing and less throttle.

The documentation on this feature is a little weak, so if you really want to take advantage of this you may want to reset the computer by disconnecting your battery overnight. This will clear the memory and it will enter the initial learn period again. During this time, if you drive more agressively it will adapt and in the future will have better response with lower gearing.

In my personal opinion, I recommend not doing this because you burn more fuel, create more emissions for no good reason. Even with my conservative fuel saving driving, I still find the Rogue very quick to accelerate in traffic - at a typical start from standing at a green light, I'm very rarely passed and often beat cars around me. It is the perfect balance of fuel efficiency and performance, and I feel good knowing I'm doing my best to keep my emissions low and not gas-out the poor pedestrian standing on the street corner, or mother walking her baby down the street with my toxic emissions.

It absolutely infuriates me when I'm out walking with my 2-year-old and some jackass hammers on the gas to accelerate like a race car past us and we get the priveledge of sucking his toxic exhaust fumes. I find people who drive like this very inconsiderate and I don't mind myself so much but when it's my kid breathing toxins because of somebody elses ignorance and carelessness it really gets my blood pressure up. And don't even get me started on idiots who drive big 1-ton diesels as their around-town vehicle for no good reason other than to mess up air quality and make everyone breath their toxins. In Alberta where I live it's bad, the SUV has gotten a bad wrap for this but big trucks are as bad and worse when you get into the 3/4 to 1-ton range. People who use these for real truck functions are ok, that makes sense, but going for groceries is not one of them.

Sorry for the rant but air quality is a serious issue.....

[casperfun]

1. Use Royal Purple. They say you get a 3-4 horsepower increase. Every little bit helps folks. Personally, I never used it.

2. K & N Air filter would increase performance if the previous one was dirty.

Your car's engine is essentially a giant air pump, combusting a mixture of fuel and air with a carefully timed spark. The more air the engine has available, the more horsepower it can make.

An engine that breathes more easily will also show improvements in throttle response. Throttle response is measured by the amount of delay or hesitation that your car exhibits between when you press down on the gas pedal and when the engine responds by delivering power. Improvements in throttle response give you more "pep" in your car's acceleration.


3. Air Intake for the Rogue. (This can be found on ebay for the Rogue)
Benefits:

Must have for your car. More fun and better driving experience.

* More Power & Acceleration for your car. Typical gain 7-14 HP.
* Replaces factory air intake system (air filter and air box) for more performance.
* Shield Protection from water and dust during rain or rough road conditions
* Better Gas Mileage during normal driving condition.
* Improved sound and nice growl under full throttle.
* Washable & Reusable Air Filter.
* Easy to install by yourself. Installation Manual is included. Tested bolt on unit.


4. Raizin performance voltage stabilizier.
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Let young kids be young. Its a phase. and the sights and smells of these performance cars on the road is part of life and reality. Just like some parent with their kid going through the terrible twos who is screaming up and down the shopping aisle. Its reality. We all young once.

Yah, I became my dreaded parents. Sucks getting old. Maybe thats why I got the Rogue. LOL.

Now turn that music down. Oh great there is a Harley Davidson behind me. Let me close my windows.

Stockwise the Rogue goes 0-60 in 8 secs. Good enough for most. Check Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnaH_mYt7s4

[Nick 568]

Use Royal Purple. They say you get a 3-4 horsepower increase. Every little bit helps folks. Personally, I never used it.

I used it in my previous car, and I *think* I noticed a slight gain, however, that could've easily been attributed to the placebo effect. Also, it was on a used vehicle, and it was the first change I had done since the previous owner, so who knows what kind of crap he had in the truck before me.

[kerrton]

Yeah casper I know I sound like an old guy, I'm only 30 myself but when you have kids things look a little different. But I agree, as a general rule you shouldn't judge others too harshly and it's important to have fun, provided your fun doesn't infringe too much on everyone else's comfort.

[RogueGuy45]

Just apply more throttle/push harder on the gas peddle, the Rogue will take off with better acceleration than most cars on the road!

As you do this, over time the CVT will make minor adjustments to suite your driving style - in your case it will select and hold a lower gearing and apply more throttle anticipating your driving requirements. For example, I drive with a very light foot, and over time the CVT has adjusted to the point where now as I take off from a stand still the CVT will kick into the highest gear within a couple seconds, very early on and I get great gas mileage around town. It didn't always perform like this, but over time has learned my driving style and now anticipates and provides the higher gearing and less throttle.

The documentation on this feature is a little weak, so if you really want to take advantage of this you may want to reset the computer by disconnecting your battery overnight. This will clear the memory and it will enter the initial learn period again. During this time, if you drive more agressively it will adapt and in the future will have better response with lower gearing.

In my personal opinion, I recommend not doing this because you burn more fuel, create more emissions for no good reason. Even with my conservative fuel saving driving, I still find the Rogue very quick to accelerate in traffic - at a typical start from standing at a green light, I'm very rarely passed and often beat cars around me. It is the perfect balance of fuel efficiency and performance, and I feel good knowing I'm doing my best to keep my emissions low and not gas-out the poor pedestrian standing on the street corner, or mother walking her baby down the street with my toxic emissions.

It absolutely infuriates me when I'm out walking with my 2-year-old and some jackass hammers on the gas to accelerate like a race car past us and we get the priveledge of sucking his toxic exhaust fumes. I find people who drive like this very inconsiderate and I don't mind myself so much but when it's my kid breathing toxins because of somebody elses ignorance and carelessness it really gets my blood pressure up. And don't even get me started on idiots who drive big 1-ton diesels as their around-town vehicle for no good reason other than to mess up air quality and make everyone breath their toxins. In Alberta where I live it's bad, the SUV has gotten a bad wrap for this but big trucks are as bad and worse when you get into the 3/4 to 1-ton range. People who use these for real truck functions are ok, that makes sense, but going for groceries is not one of them.

Sorry for the rant but air quality is a serious issue.....

Damn, that was a great post. I couldn't agree more! I live in a big suburb of yuppies east of St Paul and there are more 4wd, huge SUV's here than anywhere on the planet I swear. 99.99% of the days you could easily get around in a front wheel drive car but around here it looks like an African Safari. I was sitting at a stoplight one day and I realized I had 3 Suburbans, 2 Toyota Landcruisers and a Landrover in line with me. All we needed was a couple of lions and tigers and maybe an elephant to complete the picture!

It's beyond ridiculous. I think people are now, finally changing but it will be slow.

My wife and I try to live a minimalist lifestyle whenever we can. She drives a VW Jetta and I drive this Rogue. I am seriously thinking of the Leaf when my lease is up on the Rogue, if we can live with it.

[kerrton]

Ha, RogueGuy45 I know what you mean, a bunch of wanna be urban hunters! I'm glad at least one person on here agrees with me. And parking lots are another terrible spot to run into a bunch of those things, you can't see a damn thing if one parks next to you and you need to back out, and just to park they have to go forward-back-forward-back like 5 times, I can't see how that's luxury!

With Climate Change dominating the media and used as the yard stick for environmental performance, I think we're forgetting about all the real nasty stuff that comes out of our tailpipes. C02 is actually completely harmless if you inhale it, it's all the hundreds of other toxins that are emitted from out tailpipes that are really dangerous, especially for developing children.

You're right, it's not good enough for humans as a race to keep doing what we've always done in the past. Nobody is perfect and we all make impacts, but it's important to try to improve and get better. Just because your parents, and their parents did things a certain way, doesn't mean we can't improve on it. With time comes new opportunities that weren't available to our grandparents, so we've got to at least make an effort.

Thanks for supporting my point RogueGuy!

[philipa_240sx]

The documentation on this feature is a little weak, so if you really want to take advantage of this you may want to reset the computer by disconnecting your battery overnight. This will clear the memory and it will enter the initial learn period again. During this time, if you drive more agressively it will adapt and in the future will have better response with lower gearing.

Not sure if posted this before. The self learning or calibration data for the TCM (transmission control module) can only be cleared with a Nissan CONSULT scan tool. Simply disconnecting the battery will not work.

[philipa_240sx]

I am reminded of a saying I read once... keep this in mind when considering your impact on the enviornment:

We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

native american proverb

[Leo2005]

Check this video for injen intake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-pr3OIh ... re=related

[casperfun]

Check this video for injen intake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-pr3OIh ... re=related

That was a good example of the nice acceleration of the Nissan Rogue. Impressive!

My only comment. And I don't want to sound like a party pooping old fart here. But it would have been best to find a desolate road or large open driving area instead of a neighborhood. Somebody like a child or unknowing person could have been killed. Come on people use your freaking brains people! Trust me, I say Live and let live, but what was that driver smoking?

Find a track next time!

[takeshi]

Use Royal Purple. They say you get a 3-4 horsepower increase. Every little bit helps folks. Personally, I never used it.

I haven't either and I'm no oil expert but those that seem more knowledgeable than me tend to indicate that RP's all marketing and some purple coloring. I'd suggest more research on RP. BITOG is a good resource from what I understand.

Just apply more throttle/push harder on the gas peddle

Do the 09 SL AWD's have paddle shifters? They help for passing and onramps though I don't use them much, really.

[casperfun]

Use Royal Purple. They say you get a 3-4 horsepower increase. Every little bit helps folks. Personally, I never used it.

I haven't either and I'm no oil expert but those that seem more knowledgeable than me tend to indicate that RP's all marketing and some purple coloring. I'd suggest more research on RP. BITOG is a good resource from what I understand.

Watch this video on horsepower gain by using royal purple. Take with a grain of salt. Can't vouch for it, but looks good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm9Ab3blDtI

[philipa_240sx]

Do the 09 SL AWD's have paddle shifters? They help for passing and onramps though I don't use them much, really.

For 2009, only the AWD premium pack models have paddle/manual shifters (USA). For 2010 they were discontinued.

In Canada, we still get the paddle/manual shift as part of the SL Premium Pack. I guess us Canadians are wannabe Formula 1 drivers???

Read the model year differences here:

zerothread/325256

[Leo2005]

Check this video for injen intake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-pr3OIh ... re=related

but what was that driver smoking?
Find a track next time!

I don't smoke and I don't live there anymore Also this street is like a race track. There's a lot of sport cars like mustang, altima 3.5 etc. A lot of people speed up on that street.

[soltys]

OMG.
Not to knock anyone but did my post bring out every person on NICO that is against a little extra hp or CAI. Like I said, I'm looking for a little extra horsepower for passing on the highway and pulling a small trailer. I'm not looking for a "new sound" or bracket racer from street light to street light or that ""pep" in your car's acceleration" and it's not a phase that I'm going through. I'm a little old for showing off on the street and trying to impress those "young kids" in that loud civic with the music cranked.

If I want speed, I'll take my chipped 3.5 Altima 6spd to the track.

I guess my wording for the title for the forum was wrong so here's a new one:

"Is there a Cold Air Intake (CAI) available for the Rogue?"

One more point.
My wife agrees that more passing power on the highway would be a good thing.

[Leo2005]

OMG.
Like I said, I'm looking for a little extra horsepower for passing on the highway and pulling a small trailer.

Any cai will get you a couple extra hp. It does not have to be expensive. I bought injen because it sounds really mean. It does give couple hp to the car but not more than that. Also that video was for the test as soon as I installed that cai (don't get me wrong). There's a few options available to get a few hp to the car. You can get sporty wheels or pulley. These 2 things will not make a sound comparing to cai or exhaust.

[soltys]

There's a few options available to get a few hp to the car. You can get sporty wheels or pulley.

What are sporty wheels? I didn't know that there was an underdrive pulley kit available for the Rogue. Who's it made by.

These 2 things will not make a sound comparing to cai or exhaust.

Everyone, please, enough about the sound and "peppiness" and sh*t like that. I don't care about the sound of a CAI. I'd keep it sounding stock for all that I care about it. All I was asking was who makes one for the Rogue because I would like a little increase in hp, improved throttle response (better known as a$$ dyno) and improve fuel economy. That is all.

[dolbydj]

Have you tried turning the OD off and hitting the gas? I discovered this lately and highly recommend it. I do it all the time if I need to merge or pass a car. It feels like I am downshifting in a standard car. Alternatively, www.jrponline.com were looking into Sprint Booster for a Rogue. I think it won best new product at SEMA a few years back. I think it should help with your throttle response if it is applicable.

[philipa_240sx]

Please check out the Performance Parts FAQ.

I have recently updated it and there are a few new things you may be interested in:

- Leo2005 has successfully adapted the Injen intake meant for the Sentra on his Rogue.
- Bullydog is offering Nissan tuner 'modules'. You can read more about it's application in the Altima forums here on NICO. Seems the Alty guys are liking it.

[Leo2005]

http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?id=S ... del=SENTRA

[RogueGuy45]

OMG.
Not to knock anyone but did my post bring out every person on NICO that is against a little extra hp or CAI. Like I said, I'm looking for a little extra horsepower for passing on the highway and pulling a small trailer. I'm not looking for a "new sound" or bracket racer from street light to street light or that ""pep" in your car's acceleration" and it's not a phase that I'm going through. I'm a little old for showing off on the street and trying to impress those "young kids" in that loud civic with the music cranked.

If I want speed, I'll take my chipped 3.5 Altima 6spd to the track.

I guess my wording for the title for the forum was wrong so here's a new one:

"Is there a Cold Air Intake (CAI) available for the Rogue?"

One more point.
My wife agrees that more passing power on the highway would be a good thing.

Sounds like you already know what you need

[philipa_240sx]

Re. underdrive pulleys:

The Rogue does not have a hydraulic power steering pump... traditionally a power robbing source. The newer electrically assisted power steering is far more efficient. I would expect the gains from an underdrive pulley will be less.

[soltys]

[quote="philipa_240sx"]Re. underdrive pulleys:

The pulleys or the bullydog tuner won't be completely compatible for the Rogue.
They are only based on the same block - just like the they are based on the same frame. The engine tuning because of the heavier wieght and different CVT setup will make the interchanging of parts difficult to do - if not impossible for some.

[philipa_240sx]

The pulleys or the bullydog tuner won't be completely compatible for the Rogue.
They are only based on the same block - just like the they are based on the same frame. The engine tuning because of the heavier wieght and different CVT setup will make the interchanging of parts difficult to do - if not impossible for some.

It's more similar than you think. The QR25DE engine in the Rogue is near identical to the Altima and Sentra SE-R. Economies of scale if you will. There may be slightly different tuning, but this is just fuel and ignition maps. The ECU itself should be the same.

The RE0F10A CVT is the same for all except:

1) The AWD Rogue has a slightly different transmission to accommodate the transfer case for the AWD system.
2) Final drive ratios are slightly different.

As for weight, the FWD Rogue weighs the same as the FWD Altima 2.5. The AWD version is only about 150lbs more.