Thoughts on Parenting

A General Discussion forum for cars and other topics, and a great place to introduce yourself if you are new to NICO!
User avatar
nissangirl74
Moderator
Posts: 13910
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:15 pm
Car: 2014 Xterra Pro4X, '12 Titan 4x4, '98 240sx, '89 Pao, '77 620, '72 240Z w/RB25, '68 510, '67 WRL411, '67.5 SPL 311, '63 Bluebird, '63 NL320

Post

http://ktar.com/?sid=1135874&nid=687

I was reading this article and it really pissed me off. This woman wants to adopt a child and can't because she is single. She's smart, well-educated, financially stable and healthy. Her only "fault" is the fact that she isn't married.

I know plenty of people who are single parents and do a damn fine job. I've done both, so I guess my perspective is fairly unique, but I do not think that being a single parent takes away anything from the child. Sure, it would be nice to have a mom and a dad in the family. However, I think most kids would agree that growing up in a single parent family would be better than growing up in foster care.

What do you think?


MaximA32

Post

All of this. There's nothing wrong with a single parent raising a child.

User avatar
MinisterofDOOM
Moderator
Posts: 30928
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 5:51 pm
Car: 1962 Corvair Monza
1961 Corvair Lakewood
1974 Unimog 404
1997 Pathfinder XE
2005 Lincoln LS8
Former:
1995 Q45t
1993 Maxima GXE
1995 Ranger XL 2.3
1984 Coupe DeVille
Location: The middle of nowhere.

Post

I think it's absolutely a case-by-case basis thing, and that a law that doesn't take that into account is stupid. I know single parents who do a great job. I also know single parents who don't do so hot. But I also don't think being married would make a difference in any of those cases, because it's not being single or married that makes them a good or bad parent, it's who they are.

Every child deserves a good, loving parent (or parents) and I think it's beyond ridiculous to deny a child that simply because one is less than two. One loving parent is better than two negligent parents...or NO parents.

The law is moronic.

User avatar
s0m3th1ngAZ
Posts: 3856
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:11 am
Car: 96' Miata
2014 Focus ST

Post

As long as the parent isn't a cop that found the adoptee sitting in 2 inches of his mother's blood inside a cargo container then yes, single parents have no reason to be denied a kid.Wait crap...my joke doesn't work...he had a mom.

User avatar
nissangirl74
Moderator
Posts: 13910
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:15 pm
Car: 2014 Xterra Pro4X, '12 Titan 4x4, '98 240sx, '89 Pao, '77 620, '72 240Z w/RB25, '68 510, '67 WRL411, '67.5 SPL 311, '63 Bluebird, '63 NL320

Post

MinisterofDOOM wrote:The law is moronic.
^ This. Speaking from a purely economic view, I wonder if the officials who are making these laws realize how much keeping children in foster care costs the government every year.

More and more, I hear people say that they would rather adopt a needy child than bring another one into the world (this includes people who are fully capable of having their own children). I was adopted myself. My parents gave me an education and opportunities I never could have dreamed of having otherwise.

User avatar
hatedinthemind
Posts: 754
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:59 pm
Car: S13 Coupe, Subaru Forester
Location: Naples, FL

Post

I had no idea that you had to be married to adopt. Thats f**king lame

User avatar
dre1507
Posts: 4355
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:41 pm
Car: Some boring Lexus that's currently at home with a smashed mouth (crashed).
Location: Miami, FL

Post

as noted earlier, marriage doesn't dictate parenting abilities. it really is stupid to deny a child a good parent and home based on such idiotic reasoning.

User avatar
Jesda
Posts: 39644
Joined: Mon May 05, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: STL, DTW
Contact:

Post

The kid is definitely better off in foster care. Single parents usually eat their children.

User avatar
hannibal
Posts: 9680
Joined: Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:38 am
Car: Red Line to Glenmont
Location: Washington DC

Post

The deciding factor on whether a couple or individual can adopt should be the ability to provide a stable, loving home for the child. Marital status doesnt dictate how "healthy" the home will be.
MinisterofDOOM wrote:One loving parent is better than two negligent parents...or NO parents.

User avatar
Red coupe
Posts: 12216
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:51 pm
Car: 92 Nissan 240sx Coupe

Post

MinisterofDOOM wrote:I think it's absolutely a case-by-case basis thing, and that a law that doesn't take that into account is stupid.
Honestly a bit more stupid to expect a law designed to cover a nation of over 300 million to do things on a case by case basis.Its stupid that the speed limit for a sports car driven by a trained racing driver on the street is the same as the speed limit for a 16 year old in a 10 seater van... But you need to have just one rule so it can be understood and enforced, and you have to aim for the safer side.

Not to say that there aren't s***ty two parent families, or that there aren't amazing single parents... But bottom line, general case a kid is much better off with a mom and a dad.


User avatar
MinisterofDOOM
Moderator
Posts: 30928
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 5:51 pm
Car: 1962 Corvair Monza
1961 Corvair Lakewood
1974 Unimog 404
1997 Pathfinder XE
2005 Lincoln LS8
Former:
1995 Q45t
1993 Maxima GXE
1995 Ranger XL 2.3
1984 Coupe DeVille
Location: The middle of nowhere.

Post

Red coupe wrote:Honestly a bit more stupid to expect a law designed to cover a nation of over 300 million to do things on a case by case basis.
I don't expect a law designed to cover a nation of over 300 million to do things on a case by case basis.I expect the law not to get passed.

cheekybeast
Posts: 11
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:15 pm

Post

What an outdated law...

User avatar
Solar_Runner
Posts: 914
Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:27 pm
Location: Rio Rancho, NM

Post

The disparity of who can give birth to a child (think homeless/jobless crack junkie) and keep it until something dreadful happens AND who can adopt a child has always confused me…

User avatar
Red coupe
Posts: 12216
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:51 pm
Car: 92 Nissan 240sx Coupe

Post

Solar_Runner wrote:The disparity of who can give birth to a child (think homeless/jobless crack junkie) and keep it until something dreadful happens AND who can adopt a child has always confused me…
Why? Your comparing two completely different things.

Whether or not a crack head has a kid is simply not their choice. They really couldn't stop it if they wanted to.

One thing is in their power to control, and the other isn't. I would be willing to bet if they were given the option they would tell crack heads and homeless not to reproduce...

User avatar
Solar_Runner
Posts: 914
Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:27 pm
Location: Rio Rancho, NM

Post

Red coupe wrote:Why? Your comparing two completely different things.

Whether or not a crack head has a kid is simply not their choice. They really couldn't stop it if they wanted to.

One thing is in their power to control, and the other isn't. I would be willing to bet if they were given the option they would tell crack heads and homeless not to reproduce...
Point I’m making is that there is absolutely no standard to being able to give birth (I am NOT suggesting that there should be either) however the standard to adopt and raise a child is overly restrictive.

There are scum out there that DO GET preggers just to collect the additional cash from the welfare line. People make their living out of how many kids they have. The youngins live in squalor while mom calls her dealer from her brand new cell phone to get high…

User avatar
elwesso
Posts: 30810
Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:52 pm
Car: 94 Infiniti Q45t 5 spd
2007 BMW M Coupe
2007 Infiniti G35 S 6MT
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Post

There are probably a lot more single parent households that are eons better than dual parent households, regardless of if they adopted or not..

Child services can choose when a house is inadequate and they need to be taken away from their parents, so why cant they do the reverse...?

Of course, what would be nice and whats feasible are 2 entirely different things. But I would imagine that if you have apply to adopt a child, that you have to go through a pretty rigorous screening, why couldnt a single parent just do that?

User avatar
skydragoness
Posts: 9394
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2002 6:49 am
Car: 03' 350z Touring 6spd
92' 240sx 60k survivor :)
Location: North DFW, TEJAS
Contact:

Post

My mom raised myself and my two siblings by herself since she got divorced in 1990 from my jobless, non-child-support-paying father.

The only thing that I think she may have done wrong is spoiled the hell out of my brother and sister, but otherwise.. single people should be allowed to adopt.
elwesso wrote:There are probably a lot more single parent households that are eons better than dual parent households, regardless of if they adopted or not..

Child services can choose when a house is inadequate and they need to be taken away from their parents, so why cant they do the reverse...?

Of course, what would be nice and whats feasible are 2 entirely different things. But I would imagine that if you have apply to adopt a child, that you have to go through a pretty rigorous screening, why couldnt a single parent just do that?
This^

User avatar
nissangirl74
Moderator
Posts: 13910
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:15 pm
Car: 2014 Xterra Pro4X, '12 Titan 4x4, '98 240sx, '89 Pao, '77 620, '72 240Z w/RB25, '68 510, '67 WRL411, '67.5 SPL 311, '63 Bluebird, '63 NL320

Post

How is it that the government does not have the manpower to police the crack heads and deadbeats and their abuse of welfare, families first, and food stamps but they DO have the manpower to make sure single people can't get a shot at parenthood?

User avatar
Jesda
Posts: 39644
Joined: Mon May 05, 2003 1:50 pm
Location: STL, DTW
Contact:

Post

nissangirl74 wrote:How is it that the government does not have the manpower to police the crack heads and deadbeats and their abuse of welfare, families first, and food stamps but they DO have the manpower to make sure single people can't get a shot at parenthood?
Well, it doesn't take much labor to write a worthless and stupid law that simply says "no".

User avatar
nissangirl74
Moderator
Posts: 13910
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:15 pm
Car: 2014 Xterra Pro4X, '12 Titan 4x4, '98 240sx, '89 Pao, '77 620, '72 240Z w/RB25, '68 510, '67 WRL411, '67.5 SPL 311, '63 Bluebird, '63 NL320

Post

Jesda wrote:Well, it doesn't take much labor to write a worthless and stupid law that simply says "no".
Doesn't take much to write a good law that says "Yes" either. Just more balls.

User avatar
numbnuts240
Posts: 32380
Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:17 pm
Car: 1999 Ford Exploder 4-door 5spd
1974 Datsun Fairlady-Z 250GT
2011 Ford Focus
2010 Mazda 3
Location: TJ

Post

nissangirl74 wrote:Just more balls.
well there's the problem right there. these days, no one's got any.

User avatar
nissangirl74
Moderator
Posts: 13910
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:15 pm
Car: 2014 Xterra Pro4X, '12 Titan 4x4, '98 240sx, '89 Pao, '77 620, '72 240Z w/RB25, '68 510, '67 WRL411, '67.5 SPL 311, '63 Bluebird, '63 NL320

Post

numbnuts240 wrote:
well there's the problem right there. these days, no one's got any.
Lots of elections are coming up. It would be nice to see who can step up and make a change. Or at least set some freakin' limits.

User avatar
numbnuts240
Posts: 32380
Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:17 pm
Car: 1999 Ford Exploder 4-door 5spd
1974 Datsun Fairlady-Z 250GT
2011 Ford Focus
2010 Mazda 3
Location: TJ

Post

nissangirl74 wrote:It would be nice to see who can step up and make a change.
aren't we learning that "change" isn't always a good thing?

if **** couples and dyke couples can adopt, then single people should be able to, too. so long as there is adequate living conditions, income, and appropriate references, who cares? give the kid and single person a shot at a loving family.

User avatar
nissangirl74
Moderator
Posts: 13910
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:15 pm
Car: 2014 Xterra Pro4X, '12 Titan 4x4, '98 240sx, '89 Pao, '77 620, '72 240Z w/RB25, '68 510, '67 WRL411, '67.5 SPL 311, '63 Bluebird, '63 NL320

Post

numbnuts240 wrote:
aren't we learning that "change" isn't always a good thing?

if **** couples and dyke couples can adopt, then single people should be able to, too. so long as there is adequate living conditions, income, and appropriate references, who cares? give the kid and single person a shot at a loving family.
Not all change is bad, as long as it is with good intent and properly managed. Everyone deserves a chance to be happy.


Return to “General Chat”