Thought on Sentient by Designs Grounding Kit

[08coupedriver]

Well I installed the kit for my V6 A/C and I have to say Im pretty satisfied with the kit,

the install was pretty easy, My mpg went up slightly, my car starts up better, my HIDs power up really quick now, and I even got my "auto" light feature back, where I can leave the car in "auto" at night and they power up perfectly. My throttle response improved a little as well

overall its a great product and i would recommend it to anyone

[opekone_1988]

Very Very Interesting review.. Might just get it myself.. If you don't mind stating, how much did you pay?

[headhunt3r]

Very Very Interesting review.. Might just get it myself.. If you don't mind stating, how much did you pay?

Altima 07+ (Coupe and Sedan)

3.5L Kit

$55- 7 wires

2.5L Kit

$50- 5 wires

Prices don't include shipping, but he charges what it costs him, so it's not much more. Email him for Q's!

zerothread/345479 - Just scroll down a bit.

I've installed this kit as well, and see benefits to this product. I, along with many others here, can vouch for Nate's work

[opekone_1988]

Cool.. thanks for the info brotha.

[Throckmorton]

Well I installed the kit for my V6 A/C and I have to say Im pretty satisfied with the kit,

the install was pretty easy, My mpg went up slightly, my car starts up better, my HIDs power up really quick now, and I even got my "auto" light feature back, where I can leave the car in "auto" at night and they power up perfectly. My throttle response improved a little as well

overall its a great product and i would recommend it to anyone

Placebo Effect:

An improvement in a person's car regarded as the effect of the persons's belief in the effectiveness of the product purchased.

I'm surprised that your garage door opener doesn't operate at warp speed also.

In my opinion, these so called 'Grounding Kits' might assist you if you had an electrical drain on your car's 12 volt system, such as a super powerful amp for your sound system.

Try this simple, but effective grounding test.

First, a disclaimer: Not responsible for injuries sustained by the person and or persons simple minded enough to do this scientific test at home.

Holding a small metal knife in your right hand, and standing on only one foot, insert one end in a 120 volt electrical outlet. You will receive an electrical shock of 120 volts, as you have completed the circuit.

Now, get a second small knife, so that you are now holding a metal knife in each hand. Stand on both feet, and insert both knife blades simultaneously into the 120 volt electrical outlet. You will receive an electrical shock of 120 volts, not 240volts

Why not? Why weren't you shocked with 240 volts? You had a better ground for the second test, didn't you? You completed the circuit during both tests, but the fact of the matter is that you can not get more voltage out of a system simply because of multiple grounds. 120 volts was all that was available during both tests.

Same with the car. A 12 volt battery, fully charged, will be a little over 14 volts. You can install 100 feet of grounding wire, and you still have no more than 14 volts available.

If someone, using scientific principles, can prove to me that the Nissan Altima comes from the factory with an inferior system to ground the on-car electrical system, I would like to see it.

[mrodrig2]

OMG, not this again. Where does anyone claim that the grounding kits are trying to get more draw from the battery? Where does anyone claim that the stock grounds are inferior? Saying that you can improve something does not infer the opposite, i.e. that it was 'inferior' to begin with.

No one is making these claims so what are you trying to get at with this straw man allegory?

Look at the OP's mod list - 2 HID kits, LEDs, etc., a few electrical mods there. Why is it so hard for you to believe that the grounding kit didn't clean up some noise or an unreliable ground?

[08coupedriver]

Placebo Effect:

An improvement in a person's car regarded as the effect of the persons's belief in the effectiveness of the product purchased.

I'm surprised that your garage door opener doesn't operate at warp speed also.

In my opinion, these so called 'Grounding Kits' might assist you if you had an electrical drain on your car's 12 volt system, such as a super powerful amp for your sound system.

Try this simple, but effective grounding test.

First, a disclaimer: Not responsible for injuries sustained by the person and or persons simple minded enough to do this scientific test at home.

Holding a small metal knife in your right hand, and standing on only one foot, insert one end in a 120 volt electrical outlet. You will receive an electrical shock of 120 volts, as you have completed the circuit.

Now, get a second small knife, so that you are now holding a metal knife in each hand. Stand on both feet, and insert both knife blades simultaneously into the 120 volt electrical outlet. You will receive an electrical shock of 120 volts, not 240volts

Why not? Why weren't you shocked with 240 volts? You had a better ground for the second test, didn't you? You completed the circuit during both tests, but the fact of the matter is that you can not get more voltage out of a system simply because of multiple grounds. 120 volts was all that was available during both tests.

Same with the car. A 12 volt battery, fully charged, will be a little over 14 volts. You can install 100 feet of grounding wire, and you still have no more than 14 volts available.

If someone, using scientific principles, can prove to me that the Nissan Altima comes from the factory with an inferior system to ground the on-car electrical system, I would like to see it.

I am just stating the things that I noticed after I installed it,some of the things maybe a placebo effect but some of the things are not, I know for a fact before I installed the kit my 4 Hid ballast wouldnt light up when i left the car in "auto", now they do and they do it quickly, and my gas computer was reset after a couple hundred miles without the kit, then I installed the kit and I resetted the computer on the dash and drove the exact same commute and the mpg's were improved.

[Alt.ImaCoupe]

Placebo Effect:

An improvement in a person's car regarded as the effect of the persons's belief in the effectiveness of the product purchased.

I'm surprised that your garage door opener doesn't operate at warp speed also.

In my opinion, these so called 'Grounding Kits' might assist you if you had an electrical drain on your car's 12 volt system, such as a super powerful amp for your sound system.

Try this simple, but effective grounding test.

First, a disclaimer: Not responsible for injuries sustained by the person and or persons simple minded enough to do this scientific test at home.

Holding a small metal knife in your right hand, and standing on only one foot, insert one end in a 120 volt electrical outlet. You will receive an electrical shock of 120 volts, as you have completed the circuit.

Now, get a second small knife, so that you are now holding a metal knife in each hand. Stand on both feet, and insert both knife blades simultaneously into the 120 volt electrical outlet. You will receive an electrical shock of 120 volts, not 240volts

Why not? Why weren't you shocked with 240 volts? You had a better ground for the second test, didn't you? You completed the circuit during both tests, but the fact of the matter is that you can not get more voltage out of a system simply because of multiple grounds. 120 volts was all that was available during both tests.

Same with the car. A 12 volt battery, fully charged, will be a little over 14 volts. You can install 100 feet of grounding wire, and you still have no more than 14 volts available.

If someone, using scientific principles, can prove to me that the Nissan Altima comes from the factory with an inferior system to ground the on-car electrical system, I would like to see it.

Wow...where to start.

How about an outlet only has 120 volts to begin with...

How about if you stuck the knife in the neutral you wouldn't get any shock at all because it's bonded to ground at the panel...

How about putting both knives in the socket would cause the current to run through your arms only because of the grounded neutral...

How about watts or power is teh advantage here which is a factor of not only voltage, but current, which is directly impacted by resistance (you know, bigger wires have less)...

How about laying off someone who is just happy with a mod they did instead of suggesting they stick knives in electrical outlets...

How about buying a kit yourself and making a statement based on experience instead of a clearly flawed knowledge of electrical theory...

I can't decide. Guess I'll just leave it alone.

[windex]

While I do agree that the grounding kit may cause a placebo effect there are certain factors that I cannot deny. One my MPG is up from what it was before the kit, about 0.7 MPG. And no, I haven't been driving less aggressively. Since installing the kit saturday morning I have been to the drag strip and there was a car show the following day. On the note of the drag strip, my car has never been consistent with the time. I've run anywhere from a 14.3 to a 15.4 on the same night. Saturday night I had 2 run which I ran a 14.7 1/4 mile. I even let one of my friends take 3 runs. All of his runs were a 14.7. Does my music sound better? Yea... Can I prove that its performing better? No. Do my headlights seem brighter? Yes... Can i prove it? No.

All in all I like the kit for what it has proved to me to improve. It has made my acceleration more consistent. It has increased my MPG... Will I be looking for a grounding kit by Sentient for my next car? Yes.

[Throckmorton]

The important thing is that you are satisfied with your purchase.

If the grounding kit works for you, that's great.

[Desire1314]

Wanting to install my kit in my A/C, but i'll prob just wait until spring comes. Plus i have to find it, its lost somewhere in teh garage...........

[Juman]

While I agree that in theory a grounding kit should not do much, I did see definite changes when I installed mine. Placebic or not, I am satisfied with the purchase.

Mine was the Racingline version, but the principal is similar.

If you think it's a waste of money, don't buy it. Simple, really.

[Sentientbydesign]

Wanting to install my kit in my A/C, but i'll prob just wait until spring comes. Plus i have to find it, its lost somewhere in teh garage...........

You lost my kit in your garage somewhere? Or one of the other company's?

Better not be mine. I'll have to drive the G out to you and open up a can of whoop a**! lol j/k.

Seriously, the install is a piece of cake. Especially if you have a breaker bar or a cheater (for the 3.5). I think the whole thing can be done in about 30 mins if you're quick under the hood.

All of the NICO guys like talking to me TOOOOO much so I usually take 1-1:30 BSing.

[frankenberrie]

I read through tons of posts on this matter and at the end my choice was to buy a raceline kit and install it.. If it helps it helps, if not oh well.. Only time will tell. $75(shipping include) aint gonna break my bank.

[Ricko]

Sentientbydesign kits are awesome. I def recommend them. Grounding everything out just seemed to make everything work more consistently. You wont know until you try yourself.