Those with cages, what do you recommend???

[BackIntoAnS13]

Gonna be getting my cage done by my buddy in a couple of weeks but wanted to get your guys recommendation on what size i should go with. And if it helps any, we all know pricing for this stuff is different so NO pricing does not matter to me just wanna know what ya'll recommend.

DOM1.5" .095 1.5" .125 1.75" .095 1.75" .125

Thanks guys!

[keith0486]

y not go premade like cusco or safety 21?

[BackIntoAnS13]

Have read to many stories that Cusco= Looks....Also i like the look of custom cages, that and all im paying for is for the tubing so it will be cheaper then most bolt in cages

[slidestyle69]

1.500/.95 is fd i believe, but if you plan on doing some D1(dorifto style ) then get fd/d1 specs. Stay away from chromoly

[killernoodle]

1.5 x .125 ERW tubing is what I have in my car. Takes a beefier welder than what I have to weld perfectly.

Go with 1.5 x .095 DOM and you should be able to weld it nicely with a 115v mig with shielding gas.

Get a cage that doesn't go through the dash if you want ease of installation.

Also... bolt together cages are FTL and are seriously laughable when it comes to safety.

[wynnEZ]

1.5 x .125 ERW tubing is what I have in my car. Takes a beefier welder than what I have to weld perfectly.

Go with 1.5 x .095 DOM and you should be able to weld it nicely with a 115v mig with shielding gas.

Get a cage that doesn't go through the dash if you want ease of installation.

Also... bolt together cages are FTL and are seriously laughable when it comes to safety.

There is nothing wrong with QUALITY bolt in cages like Cusco and Safety 21, do you think those companies would put out a product that wasn't safe? The Cusco cage has been tested several times and proves to do exactly what it is suppose to do.

[USsil80]

y are you caging you car.. look at the rule book of what you want to run and see what they require...

[homeslicej2]

^ good point. YOu should always run what the sanctioning body of whatever you intend to do requires. For general purposes though, I've always been told and seen 1 1/2" diameter mild steel with 1/8" thick walls (.125)

[BackIntoAnS13]

Car is for road racing and occasionally drifting. Been searching and searching and consensus says 1.5" 1.25 so i think thats what im gonna run with

[killernoodle]

There is nothing wrong with QUALITY bolt in cages like Cusco and Safety 21, do you think those companies would put out a product that wasn't safe? The Cusco cage has been tested several times and proves to do exactly what it is suppose to do.

I'm sure a bolt in cage will do nicely in 80% of rollovers, but if you ask any racer they will tell you that they want a cage that will perform well in 100% of rollover situations.

A bolt in cage can not and does not have the same rigidity and structural integrity of a fully welded cage. For one, every bolt joint on a bolted cage represents an axis that a tube can move. You can't argue against that joint acting like a hinge in one direction. A welded tube doesn't have this hinge effect.

Also, the Cusco 6 point cage is only 41 lbs... I'm pretty sure my cage weighs several times more than that. The safety 21 cage is only .078" thick DOM and weighs 52 pounds... How thick are the walls in the Cusco cage then? Neither of these would meet nearly all racing regulations and I wouldn't trust my life to a 16ga tube keeping my roof from collapsing down on me.

Thats why the tubing in my cage is .120" wall thickness and welded to everything else.

[TheCandyManS13]

You should figure out what events you're going to be attending and d/l one of their rule/spec books. SCCA (AutoX/Roadracing) have different requirements than F1/D1. If you have a weld in cage in SCCA your car class will immediately change to one of the more modified classes from G-Stock or whatever Stock class 240SX are in (D? F? i don't remember, i'm not stock) In SCCA, some bolt in cages are acceptable depending on your class. Cages require alot more thought than most people think.

[nightsauce]

might i ask where are you ordering the pipes from?

[BackIntoAnS13]

Will let you know tomorrow....my buddy buys all the tubing locally just dont know from where.

[killernoodle]

Just get an SW cage, its pre bent and pre notched for the most part and is very reasonably priced.

For the cage + install it probably costs as much as a cusco or safety 21 and is going to be safer.

[OutToWinPAHC]

A lot of guys complain about these cages even with the notch, They say its still too low. But 2 addls small bends and problem solved.

[nightsauce]

Will let you know tomorrow....my buddy buys all the tubing locally just dont know from where.

thanks. I was debating on making my own cage too, pending the price of the tubing.

[4wheeldrifts13]

If you are serious about doing any sort of sanctioned event, you might want to check the D1/FD rules.