This section is dead

[Caveit77777]

What the hell happened? I didn't get on much during summer and went to college for the last 3 months and haven't been on too much. I get back on and there's thread hanging around on the first page that are days old. I used to be able to get fast answers here but idk. We need to get the flow going again.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Yea we do need to get it flowing again! The Z sections are alive and well. Especially the Z32 Sections they are booming and very active their most active out of all the Z sections!

[badbob2121]

I agree, i think that alot of members have simply moved to other forums

[pacotaco345]

The formatting change of the forum is what did it for me... That's why I hardly post here anymore, and the lack of others posting doesn't help either. Zilvia ftw lol

[USAF_KOUKI]

funny cause i cant get on zilvia righ now cause the server is busy, so i decided to come to nico.....hmmmmm
i think alot of it is this forum caters to so much in the nissan infinity world that most prefer more specific venues.

[Hijacker]

A good portion of the decrease in traffic can also be contributed to the recession. A lot of people in the 240 community probably can't afford to continue buying parts the way they used to. Look at the market availability that's out there. I can remember a time when we had an awesome selection of quality parts out there, now it's nothing buy cheap knock off crap. If people can't afford to play, they tend to not even bother participating in an online community.

I don't doubt that our switch off zeroforums may have driven a few people away, but I really like this board setup a whole lot better than our old setup.

I'll also attribute a slowdown on my part. I haven't been as active in creating FAQs and DIYs for a long time. I used to pride myself on generating content to keep people interested. People used to complain about all the build threads, especially the ones where someone tacks a few bolt ons to their car, but I let them stay because it was at least content being posted. Plus, if I close down someone's thread because all they did was throw some lowering springs on a stock car and called it a build thread, I'd have to shut down total restoration threads like m tr4nch's to maintain some form of fairness and equality.

If we want to turn this section around, it's going to have to be a group effort. We need more people posting news, new parts they can find, creating build threads. Hell, just post up about a race you participated in (legal of course. No street racing). I used to dump autocross pictures monthly years ago. Our community is fueled by the members. So unless the members participate, the community will begin to feel stagnant.

[USAF_KOUKI]

ive been on nico for years (old name doesnt work anymore) hence i have like 4 posts now...lol. its like everything else it will come back around.

[OutToWinPAHC]

FYI - Check the 240sx Technical section too

[glacier985]

I can tell you that I personally had not posted here for four years (Nov 07 to Nov 11). I guess having kids will do that to you. I lost all interest in my 240 until recently when I got back in the game by picking up a 240z. Which has ignited me to finished my t3/t04e ka24et setup thats been 90% finished since 2008.

[pj]

i think hijackers right pretty much, the economy is though for many and fixing up a 240sx doesnt compare to keeping the lights on and the house warm. i also think its due to trends that eb and flow, for a while everyone wanted a sr, then a kat, then people started wanting a v8....so differing forums and groups cater tho these.
body modifications as well, people were all about this body kit or that one, asking questions, posting pictures...now, slammed on stock components is what many are going to.
suspension, it used to be about perfect fit, what was drivable, softer or harder settings....even down to how many clicks out you went on some new set of coilovers to get the best quality ride....all that generates tons of threads and interest....then of course the trend started going towards "who gives a s***?1 i want this beeyatch slaaaaaaamed" so now most of the details dont matter, its just make it as low as possible and flush with some wheel, good to go.

so i think things are simplifying in certain aspects (body,suspension,interior)and more serious ion others (swaps)...however due to money, not many can do big swaps now....so in both regards it means less traffic and less input here.

[S14toRPS13]

Still prefer Nico to a lot of the know it all snobs at Zilvia. I think we've already reached the peak of popularity with this car. I've been driving these car's since high school and now being in my 30's I've noticed the trend. The urge with this hobby comes and goes. Although my taste have gotten more expensive over the years, I always found myself coming back to this car.

[Creamed]

Im 19 and just got a s13, ill be doing a rb25 swap wen i get back from my deployment, so you'll see me on this alot.

[xX RB Xx]

Well for me, I switched chassis and haven't really need to get on here at all. I still try to get on here and help out when I can but between work, play, life , I really just don't have the time.

[idahotuner]

yes it has been dead it sucks. even on here and many other forums,the only real builds happening are by really rich people, or shop builds, not many private builds like mine anymore, the Christmas season and hunting season slowed mine down. if i dont have an update i dont post, and it seems like if people dont have a personal connection then they arnt posting. i was kinda neglecting my car, then my budy picked up a 240, and i was like damn got to get mine running again

[The_caveman]

It really is dead around here. I remember when I joined 6 years ago,there was alot more activity. I started with 240s alot sooner than most people in my area,do without trolling nico I was clueless.... Now other than typical questions that are over talked 240 gen seems almost pointless for anything but some quick glances.

[idahotuner]

it almost seems like a brick wall has been hit with sr20s and kas. everything that can be done has been done,or covered, and every one is doing ls1 swaps now which arnt cool any more either. its more about looks now which is dumb. obsession with fitment and stance, and drifting. no one builds a fast clean street car for the hell of it. stuff is getting old. and people are poor.

[240sxcl50]

+1^^

[Bluefire]

honestly I left the 240sx general forum because of all the damn build threads everyone and their moms were posting. Especially since 90% of them never get completed or have huge lulls before updates. As i have suggested before, there should be a separate build thread forum, not just for 240's but for all nissans. That way if one thread slows down, theres another one continuing.

Another huge factor the general thread is dead is because of the lack of new parts. honestly I jump on the forums maybe once a month now to just quickly check if there are new things for the 240. however i have yet to see any new and innovative parts come out within the past year. I attribute this mostly to 240 market being saturated by cheap knock-off parts. I've talked to a lot of different manufacturer asking if they have any new parts out for the 240 market and the response has always been the same. Any new part they come out with will simply get copied and then dumped on the market for peanuts. Its just not worth it to make any more parts for the 240's.

I believe car forums play an integral part in the economy of aftermarket parts. i understand and praise forums for allowing free discussion and opinions on all parts knock-off or not, but I also believe they have a moral responsibility to the car community to push new and innovative parts and ideas.

[pj]

if the new innovatove part is worth a s***, people will buy it. point blank. word of mouth alone will sell a kickass part in the schassis world.

[Bluefire]

Not if the part gets knocked off and then sold for a quarter of the price. You give this community way to much credit. I'd say less than 1% of the community can see the value in a quality made part.

A clear example of this is the greddy vs freddy oil pan. Greddy took the initiative to develop an oil pan for the SR and look what happens. Too all those that say Greddy stuff is too expensive for what it is, please go and attempt to design, manufacture, market and sell a part. Why shouldn't Greddy get paid for the stuff they make? And for the wannabe self-righteous peeps that think buying freddy stuff sends a message to greddy that their stuff is overpriced, what your really doing is pushing knock-off companies to rip-off more products and helping them make money on stolen ideas. Think about it, if you were Greddy, would you lower your price to match another company when they stole your design? And would you be willing to create more new parts and risk having your profits stolen?

Like I said before, forums have a duty to the community to shut out products that are blatant rip-offs, whether it be engine, suspension, or aerodynamic parts. Simply allowing these products and companies to be a part of the community is a passive form of support and contributes to the demise of the community.

[badbob2121]

I dont think that knock off parts are contributing to the lack of activity in gen chat..

I understand where you are coming from, but there is nothing you can do about it. We can talk marketing all day but in the end, the cheapest part will typically sell over the higher end parts to the general public. It might not be sold to you or me, but there is a majority that will sacrifice quality to save money... its reality. Im sure that Greddy and other higher end manufacturers will be fine..

[pj]

man dont turn this into ANOTHER thread about legit / knockoff blah blah s***.
i feel you man, i really do. and when it comes to internals, turbos etc. im all for a good quality part.
but aknock off shift knob? who gives a s*** (i own legit nismo though, ill have you know)

the "forums" dont have a responsibility to do a damn thing, other than to exist.
and ive never heard of freddy haha but i do remember when people were being fooled into buying hks bov's which were fake and cheap and didnt function properly (this perhaps is a forum responsibility, letting people know about fake s*** being billed as good s***) but if you know its fake, and you buy it anyway, its on the individual. nothing you, companies, forum trolls, anyone can say will change this.

and as far as knockoffs go, if a company makes a replica of a product, shoes for instance. and the quality is the same, materials the same etc. is it really a knock off? why?

there are many studies which found that many items bought in high end mainstream stores are actually frauds of the real thing. they cant even tell the difference.

all im saying here man, is its a fact of life, its a fact in business, it isnt going anywhere. so deal.

and good lord, knock offs have nothing to do with people not typing s*** on forums. to get off the horse long enough to see what the conversations about

[Dizel01]

The fact of the matter is.....NICO got stale and corny. There I said it.

Its full of lame builds by people with horrible tastes that never finish, everybody has zombie-like positive posts about these builds, and theres been a lack of moderation to clean up the threads (Have a build page!!). I bailed to other forums long ago cause I got sick of people showing how they painted their interior trim in a horrible manner and then see posts saying...."I like where your going with this."

[pj]

and given my above statement. no, to answer an obvious question. i myself do not support knock offs. i dont think ive ever bought anything knock off purposely.

[pj]

Dizel you make it sound as if were all eating smores and playing gay songs on acoustic guitars while we post

[Hijacker]

The fact of the matter is.....NICO got stale and corny. There I said it.

Its full of lame builds by people with horrible tastes that never finish, everybody has zombie-like positive posts about these builds, and theres been a lack of moderation to clean up the threads (Have a build page!!). I bailed to other forums long ago cause I got sick of people showing how they painted their interior trim in a horrible manner and then see posts saying...."I like where your going with this."

I've already mentioned my stance on build threads. Most of them aren't my cup of tea either, but I'm not going to discriminate. Especially if it means I still see some activity on the boards. Moving those threads to another section of the forums, or closing them down outright because of my personal tastes will only fracture the community here and turn this board into a virtual ghost town.

I would love to see more high dollar builds going on, but in all honesty, a lot of people have moved on to the next big thing in cars. I would be posting about automotive overhaul on my car, but when it comes to modifying my car or putting food on my table, food will always win. Hopefully, in the coming months, I can turn that around, but I am only one man. Any projects I post will only produce so much in traffic. We would need a lot more people doing a lot of interesting stuff to have that kind of board growth.

In response to no new parts coming out: We've seen a long run of pieces for the S chassis. Just about every nut and bolt on the car has an aftermarket upgrade. When everything's been done, you're going to see output of new ideas and parts a lot less. Take what Cor Integration just put up. The S13 is going on 23 years old now, and T/C rods have been made ad naseum in the past. CI found a unique issue with tire clearance and made a set of T/C rods that clear wider tires. But that's the only new and interesting thing I've seen in a long time. I've had my wish list since the day I bought the car, and only a few things have ever changed on it over the years. The market is saturated, but it's saturated with product that hasn't fundamentally changed in 15+ years. You're going to see stagnation over time in a situation like that. It's inevitable.

[audtatious]

While the move from ZeroForums to phpbb may have caused a major pain in everyones a** there was not much that we could have done other than close shop. ZeroForums was being shut down and we had to get off the software. No if's, and's nor but's about it. Rock, meet hard place. It sucked.

NICO has tried to be the "friendly" forum. So what? For the most part we don't care if you tell someone you don't like what they did. There's no reason to be a internet tough guy and be an ***hole about it. While some may find it annoying it's also annoying to enter every thread to see people post "your s*** sux" over and over. Grow up and stop acting like 16yo's, even tho you may only be 17.

Let's face it, the 240sx is no longer the dorifto-king it was. Used 350z's are now in the price range and are not a bazillion years old. I've been watching the trends and people searching for 240sx information on the internet has dropped to 20% of what it was even 3 years ago. Writing is on the wall that people are moving on. Teenage speed ho's constantly wrecking them only moves it further down the path.

Welcome to the new age.

[95zenki man]

So do i have free power to post any and all cool 240 stuff i find in gen pop to keep it alive?

i have some really good ideas...

[iandrew89]

Like stated above I believe there are many reasons as to why the forum is slowing down. Everyday the car gets older and as cars get older they usually have more work to go into them to get them even up to par. Everyone has had one by now so usually if you get one you are picking up someone elses pieces. not fun when your trying to learn stuff about cars or even build one (unless its from the ground up then who cares what is missing).

Also like stated newer chassis are becoming more reasonable to buy so why spend even 1500 on an older car that is going to need a ton of work when you can spend a little or alot more and get something greater then a 240 right out of the box. I love my 240 always have probably always will as it is the car that really got me into cars and has taught me alot in alot of areas that can be applied to other cars. Not to mention the fun I have had with mine. Im still not even done with mine but honestly I dont want it to be some monster that I used to want to build mine into.

From here on out really its going to be people who really want a 240 that gets them. IMO. It's not really the cool thing to have anymore. People still only ask me about mine because they know the time, money, and work I have into mine. Honestly I am even ready for something different. I have been on the fence about selling mine for awhile. I just even parts from my car for sale on the classifieds and since I didn't get any bites I figured why stop where it is at now. I might as well finish it and just keep the thing around as space ain't an issue its the time.

I also think alot of people on here have just gotten bored with the same questions and same posts over and over again. Anytime a question is asked the most common response is use the search bar. Which is fine yes 9/10 times the answer is right in front of you if you look. But some people have legitiment questions and it's hard to get an answer that is actually going to help you.

Sorry for the length but this is just my opinion on the matter. I hope we get a steady flow of traffic back here as I use to stay on here for hours at a time. now I check maybe once a week.