This needs to stop!

[boost_boy]

The one thing that really needs to stop being disclosed in this community is the fact that most of you younger members keep using this line "I'm a poor college student".....It's degrading the CA18 motor immensely. The CA18 is not a cheap motor by far and if you don't have the money to make the motor any better than it is, then those are the breaks. You own the motor, so obviously you mustered up some money to own one and once again $1000-$1800 is nothing to sneeze at.

It needs to stop and I will closely monitor posts and delete any such comments that gets made. Call me a prick, but I happen to pride myself on the CA18 and I've spent more than enough money and spent more than enough time on them to be able to say, it's more expensive than all the rest of them. It's not a simple task to take such an engine and work wonders that are normally expected from bigger displacement motors.

So if your @$$ is broke, but you own a CA, wait till you get through with school and then you can afford to get cute with it, while you make payments on your 2000+BMWs or Mercedes. But until such an even takes place, please stop looking down your own throats and show some pride. The world doesn't need to know you're broke and in college. Getting a higher education doesn't mean you have to be poor and I seriously doubt any of you are really all that poor and broke.:angryfire Any issues, direct them directly to me. And if any of you are smart like a higher education requires, you'll understand where I'm coming from.

Dee

[r34 gtr]

i can honestly say i am a poor college student, but i still manage to sink way more money into my car than i actually have at any given time. i ate peanut butter sandwiches and ramen this week and managed to save $40 for the car fund. its really not hard to make money (or save it) for your car, you just have to make some compromises. make some rich friends and mooch like crazy! (lord knows i do).

my ca with an intake, cat-back exhaust, ka24e cat, 9psi of boost and a rebuilt turbo wiped the floor with my friend's dad's 2001 svt cobra. it was in no way slow, and to top it off i had a passenger and a full tank of gas while the cobra just had the driver and a quarter tank. i managed to pull 2 different evo 8s in the 1/4 (they had bad drivers and only pulled off very low 14s each). i timed it to 60 and it did 5 and a half. like dee said, the ca in stock or near-stock form is still a beast and no one should think poorly of it for any reason.

and if you have even a penny in your couch, you arent broke. if you are in college and would like tips on how to throw mass amounts of money into your car without holding down a real job, give me a yell.

- tim

[fanta]

No such moderation needs to be done.

It is what it is.

[iliketocrash]

And if any of you are smart like a higher education requires, you'll understand where I'm coming from.

Dee

Now that's just outta line. I could ALMOST see where you were coming from but you just crossed a line with that statement. Someone should be moderating you, and if you are as smart as you make yourself out to be then you'll know where i'm coming from.

[boost_boy]

Quote »Now that's just outta line.[/quote] What's so outta line about it? If the shoe fits, wear it. People such as myself spend hours on end trying to keep the forums policed from the same repititious crap, especially people coming into the CA forums crying about how broke they are. If you are not willing to sink the funds into your project, telling people you're a broke college student is not going to get you any slack. I hope I didn't touch a nerve, but I meant what I said and will not retract it. And BTW, someone is always watching the way I moderate, so I don't need you to tell me what line I've crossed. It needs to stop because it's a senseless waste of bandwith and gives the community a band name for whining. Are you one of them because you're acting like it right now, if you know where I'm coming from.

And as for the comment that you so quoted, when you leave high school and go off to college, the intensity of college is nothing like high school. It requires you to be a tad more responsible as well as receptive to a higher level of learning. Whether it be from your parents wallet, scholarships or the governments pockets, there's expectations that come with that money.

So before you got smart at the finger tips, you should've at least asked for clarification and I would've happily justified anything youquestioned about what I write or wrote.

Dee

[boost_boy]

Quote »No such moderation needs to be done.[/quote] On the contrary! It will be done.

Quote »It is what it is.[/quote] And if these folks are truly poor, but in college, good that that they're in college, but who cares that they are poor. It's like all of us crying about the problems we are having within our lives, when the only thing we care about is sharing information about cars, engines and related activities. I mean who really cars that your car was made in 1971! The most important thing here is that you're a CA owner and interested in making it go and maybe to share ideas. The idea is simle, but the choice is up to you guys. If you want to question me about it, fine. But I think I've made my point and myself and other moderators will do what's necessary to make sure the image of the CA community does not go 95 south.

Dee

[drumma022]

Dee -- You have preached what I have been saying for the past 1 1/2 years!! Its not just the CA community, I have been seeing it spread througout the entire 240sx community. I speak as a part-time working / full-time student with no Financial Aid to be had, and I still managed to muster out a pimp 400+hp CA18.

Working at Enjuku Racing, I see this trend every day and it seems to be getting worse.

This now leads me to rant about clueless people that own 240's! I had a guy call me and ask for a Hotshot header for his KA24... he pays, and I send him one... he calls me up from a shop and asking where does it go. This point, I am like "this is going to be fun," and describe on where the stock header is bolted. He then replies "I already have a header?" I am clueless and tell him all cars have them stock and the advantages to the aftermarket. Call goes on for 5 minutes of him upset and complaining that I sold him something that he didn't need.

Sorry to jack your thread Dee.

[boost_boy]

No problem, Ray! I've let it go long enough, but my eyes can't take no more. Reading through good posts and to have the old 'I'm a poor college student" . I mean, some of the guys joke about it, but some seem to want sympathy; from who, I don't know. So I say this, if you're using your financial aid or your tuition money to buy a CA, don't call yourselves poor. To me you're smart because you're atking advantage of the system, but in the end, you are dumb as hell because you just made a bad investment with money invested in your being highly educated )Sent to college).

Dee

[fanta]

I think you're taking it too seriously, but do so if you wish.

[pulsar gtr]

LMAO , O MAN, drumma022, I feel sorry for you man for dealing with this customer, I can't stop laughting.That reminds me of a joke, a lady walked into a petboy type of store and proceeded to the parts counter and she asked if she can have a 710 cap for her engine, after few mins of mind buggling of the service person behind the counter, he then asked here to write down exactly what she means, so she wrote 710 but when the service guy turn the piece of paper with 710 on it unside down, it read OIL

PULSAR GTR

[boost_boy]

It's a part of my duties around here as a mod! If this is the type of crap you want to read about everyday, cool; just not in the CA forum. I take a lot of things seriously, but who cares that I'm a seriously caring father of 3 (worthless information, huh). The only thing I'm trying to do is stop a trend. I've been in this forum long enough to see the same 'ol-same 'ol and it really needs to stop.

Dee

[boost_boy]

Quote »I think you're taking it too seriously, but do so if you wish.[/quote] And trust me 'fanta' , I don't think I'm alone on this matter. If you have nothing constructive to add to this, please disregard the rest of the posts or unsubscribe yourself from the thread because I don't have beef with you, so don't provoke it.

Dee

[fanta]

There is no ill will from any of these posts, I'm just trying to see where you stand and letting you know how I feel about it. Just because there isn't a smilie doesn't mean I'm not jolly.

Provocations? We both have better things to do than try to get on someone's bad side in a forum.

Do as you wish, I have no qualms

[pulsar gtr]

Dam, no one found my joke funny, hum I am Trying to lighten up the mood, I am going to sleep now :oface

Bottom line CA18DET FORUM/ENGINE RULEPULSAR GTR

[N.O. Accorderz]

i cracked up laughing when i read it :ylsuper

[BoroBoroS13]

I dont know why people low ball, cry, and complain about this so much either. Just cause S13's and CA18's are cheap to start with doesnt mean anything else will be. Quality costs money and you get what you pay for. If you cant afford what you need dont ***** about it and try to low ball others for the parts. Its anoying and makes us all look like cheap, poor, and broke *** kids. Its got to stop...

[ca18detizzle]

You do get what you paid for. So make the right decision in the first place.

[float_6969]

werd

[rico05]

I'm a ppor college student as well. Its called buy stuff used, expect low HP numbers, and save up some for a rebuild when the time comes.

And apply for a lot of credit cards and financial aid. Its how I have done almost every part of my car;)

[redamnavit]

This is a bit of an aside, but if you're broke I suggest:

1) Be patient and watch ebay or the sales forums for used stuff. I got my MAF/intake/IC piping/BOV/turbo/boost gauge this way and I'm not done with other people's leftovers. People upgrade all the time, take advantage of it.

2) FOCUS. If you're reading this you've probably got a motorset or front clip already. Figure out exactly what you need; a way to get air to the turbo, a basic sidemount IC setup, and a downpipe to your stock exhaust. Not so much money there, especially if you can follow suggestions 1 and/or 3. Don't go off and buy a turbo timer or a new set of wheels.

3) Find somewhere to work a few hours a week where you can learn how to weld. Its not only a marketable skill, its the skill that will save you the most money on your car in the long run. I'm a horrid welder with a beat MIG flux-wire machine but the stuff I can patch on the fly saves me a ton of time and a fair amount of cash.

[iliketocrash]

I'm a full-time student, i go to class year round (no summer vacation) and i work a full time job. Its no sisssy job either, i work in -25 degrees and it blows. Do you hear me whining? No. That's just who i am. Other people whine cause that's who they are. This post WILL change nothing. Things might start to change a little bit, for a little while but then more new people will come, this will be forgotten and it will start again. If the moderators are so upset about people whining in thears posts about being broke then just delete them or lock them and make an example out of them. A discussion isn't going to solve anything. I say this because its the internet and i've seen millions of boards go through similar attempted changes such as this. It really doesn't happen.

And yes dee, you were out of line with that statement. You don't get anywhere by directly insulting someone's intelligence. That's just being an ******* and you know it. So if you wanna be a prick about it, then be a prick. Let's see where it gets you. Its by no means a threat obviously, so try not to look at it that way. I'm just saying that all this is a waste of text. Figure out a better way to do this. Because this way has been done millions of times before and it doesn't work.

[r34 gtr]

i will be the first to admit (and i think everyone will agree) that i whine constantly. i dont actually expect anyone to care, i dont expect any sympathy. im a student during the fall and spring, it doesnt stop me from spending rediculous amounts of cash on my car.

one thing to remember, if youre single you usually have a lot more free cash to spend on that CA. remember, be thrifty! dump your girlfriend for the holidays so you dont have to buy her anything! same goes for her birthday. (girls, please, please, PLEASE dont kill me, im really a nice guy i swear!).

- tim

[biosehnsucht]

I have no problem with nuking posts that are only whining.

But just because someone mentions it, should not cause deletion of a post if there is perfectly valid questions, comments, answers etc related to the thread its posted in.

[boost_boy]

Quote »This post WILL change nothing.[/quote] Watch me! It's called deletion. It may not stop an individual from whining, but it sure as hell won't be allowed to sit on our forum and spread bad Karma. I think you're misreading the posts or something. It's not just me that's sick of the sad/sob college kid story. There's a bunch of guys on here that are in college and not really making a big stink about this. Two of the other moderators are in college and I don't hear them whining. I don't want to make this anything more than it is, so really man, just play by what's set forth for you to follow. I'm not asking much, but we do have much better things and problems to read about than people saying how poor they are.

Quote »And yes dee, you were out of line with that statement.[/quote] You are entitled to your opinion and it is noted, but I still disagree with you thinking that statement was out of line. If I totally felt or the moderation team felt it was inappropriate, then I would simply delete it. If this pertains to you, I'll clarify it for you in simplest terms:Quote »Getting a higher education doesn't mean you have to be poor and I seriously doubt any of you are really all that poor and broke. Any issues, direct them directly to me. And if any of you are smart like a higher education requires, you'll understand where I'm coming from.[/quote] You quoted the part that you wanted to quote, but the whole paragraph brings everything to the table. Being in college means you can no longer be the totally irresponsible kid you were when you were in high school. Complain all you want, but no one's really listening. Around here, myself, the mod team and then some of the more seasoned members are listening. And when we see a trend, it needs to be arrested. Go to college, grow-up. Embark on a higher education, grow-up. Raise a family, grow-up. Want to senselessly argue, grow-up. Want to get into the world of performance, produce the funds to play or shut-up. End of discussion.

Dee:icesangel

[nab911]

Im a college student, im not poor... im in debt But i still try to buy way to much stuff that i cant afford, but i do not resort to eating raman noodles (even though they are good)... i just stopped eating

[boost_boy]

Quote »Im a college student, im not poor... im in debt But i still try to buy way to much stuff that i cant afford, but i do not resort to eating raman noodles (even though they are good)... i just stopped eating [/quote] But you're not crying, more like trying and that's all anyone could ever expect. I didn't learn what I learned overnight and I wasn't know big baller, either. I had small babies and fetish for fast cars, so I had to make fast decisions and they were either the cars or the kids. I found a way for both my responsibilities and my hobby to co-exist. It wasn't easy and nor did I crab about my financial status, either. If you want it, you'll find a way to get it, even if you have to eat ramen noodles or be out working on other folks' car till 3am when you have to get up at 5am to your day job.

Dee

[nab911]

Oh i understand you dee, im just saying whats more important, boosting or eating... i think you all will make the right decision... anorexia

[xyster]

eh...I hope you children are done with your petty bickering by the time I get back and start working on my CA again. It's nonsense like this, not kids complaining about being broke, that brings NICO and the CA community down.

[boost_boy]

Quote »eh...I hope you children are done with your petty bickering by the time I get back and start working on my CA again. It's nonsense like this, not kids complaining about being broke, that brings NICO and the CA community down.[/quote] I agree, sir. You guys think someone should close this thread? # votes and it's closed.

Dee

[boost_boy]

Voting polls are closed. This one is in the archives

Dee