I got a 01 fronter (Ka24de) I want a good turbo setup. I am new to this whole turbo thing. So if you guys would let me know the basics on what i need to get this truck going. I was looking at this to start of my kit, is this a good start or a waste?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW
This Kit ok for My Ka24De...
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So im better off to just piece a kit together? If so what type of turbo? Manifold? Ect....
Also on the turbo what trim, stage, ar, all the .60 .53 stuff. What do i need for my ka?
Also on the turbo what trim, stage, ar, all the .60 .53 stuff. What do i need for my ka?
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umm i don't know about that...
turbo's are generally not the most important piece to a turbo kit... the most important part would definitely be fuel management (whether it's an rrfpr, piggy back, rom tune, stand alone or whatever). if you want to buy a cheap turbo who cares? if it breaks big deal, it was cheap you can get another one... if you skip out on fuel management though you'll have a whole lot of dead engine and at that point the turbo you have sitting on the manifold doesn't matter, because it's not going to be doing anything until it has another engine to operate on.
turbo's are generally not the most important piece to a turbo kit... the most important part would definitely be fuel management (whether it's an rrfpr, piggy back, rom tune, stand alone or whatever). if you want to buy a cheap turbo who cares? if it breaks big deal, it was cheap you can get another one... if you skip out on fuel management though you'll have a whole lot of dead engine and at that point the turbo you have sitting on the manifold doesn't matter, because it's not going to be doing anything until it has another engine to operate on.
thats the kit im going with for now .. it includes the basics of a starter kit for a ka-t and in my opinion looks like a good bang for the buck ... who cares if the turbo goes get another one .. and either way im pretty sure they are not that bad really because some shop somewhere that makes turbos had to have made them .. its not like they had some shop in tiwan that makes strut tower bars for civics manufacture them : ) so the internals should be of ok quality if not good quality ..
either way im getting it for the cash who could go wrong ..
either way im getting it for the cash who could go wrong ..
one more thing... i have only seen one instance where the turbo broke in two pieces, and i'm sure everyone knows what instance i am talking about... it was on some honda forum.... it was a different turbo than the one in this kit... i have an ssac kit and have had no problems with the turbo i got thus far. i've had it on my car since the end of january. the only problem so far is that there is a small exhaust leak, but i have not yet determined if it is because the manifold has a crack (which i do not think is the case, because i can't find a leak anywhere) or if it is leaking at the seal between the manifold and head, which is most likely the case. i have not yet removed it to find out but i will do so soon.
i bought my kit as a starter kit, and it has done fine as a starter kit... if i wanted something more advanced i would have bought something with more potential and a better reputation and better customer service...
as long as you don't treat this kit like something it's not (it's not a high dollar bullet proof kit... it is a starter kit, which means it's probably not something that will be good for 400 hp. period. the end.) you will have good results i think...
i bought my kit as a starter kit, and it has done fine as a starter kit... if i wanted something more advanced i would have bought something with more potential and a better reputation and better customer service...
as long as you don't treat this kit like something it's not (it's not a high dollar bullet proof kit... it is a starter kit, which means it's probably not something that will be good for 400 hp. period. the end.) you will have good results i think...
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That manifold looks pretty and shiny, BUT, i dont see anywhere on that manifold that has load bearing supports..!!
Regardless that it has a tiny T25 turbo, i dont think that will hold up pretty long. If u ask me the only thing holding those runners from breaking loose off that flange are the welds only..!!
I have an equal length manifold and it has 2 load bearing bars. One bar that welds FROM the turbo flange TO the head flange itself, and the other bar holds the wastegate flange to the collector itself.. This way there is no weight issue's stressing directly onto the runners... Like that manifold is.
Check out my manifold and u can see the stress bars, one is over that 3rd runner and the other is down by the wastegate flange..
http://www.import-autoperforma...1.jpg
Regardless that it has a tiny T25 turbo, i dont think that will hold up pretty long. If u ask me the only thing holding those runners from breaking loose off that flange are the welds only..!!
I have an equal length manifold and it has 2 load bearing bars. One bar that welds FROM the turbo flange TO the head flange itself, and the other bar holds the wastegate flange to the collector itself.. This way there is no weight issue's stressing directly onto the runners... Like that manifold is.
Check out my manifold and u can see the stress bars, one is over that 3rd runner and the other is down by the wastegate flange..
http://www.import-autoperforma...1.jpg
Oh I'm sorry, I must have missed the fuel mangement part of that kit, and then magically implied that it was less important than the turbo. My bad.
Back to reality... ever thought about what a chipped impeller could do to an engine? DO not, DO NOT, buy something as important as a turbo from SSA. The manifold is somewhat understandable if you know how to weld supports to it cuz once it cracks (and it will) you can either repair or order another one for like $150 or whatever they charge now. Have a turbo fall in half (which they have been documented to do) and I'd be a ton more peeved than having a freaking exhaust leak.
And the whole "who cares if something breaks it's cheap enough to buy another lolol" mindset is a bit ludicrous. What happens when the 2nd one breaks? AT that point you've spent more moeny and a tons more time on these turds of products than you would have a something not made by a 12 year old blind retard in a 3rd world country. SSA seems to be a hit or miss type gamble-- swing if you want but I;d rather save up a couple more bucks and not run the risk of runing my car and spending a ton of time doing it.
Back to reality... ever thought about what a chipped impeller could do to an engine? DO not, DO NOT, buy something as important as a turbo from SSA. The manifold is somewhat understandable if you know how to weld supports to it cuz once it cracks (and it will) you can either repair or order another one for like $150 or whatever they charge now. Have a turbo fall in half (which they have been documented to do) and I'd be a ton more peeved than having a freaking exhaust leak.
And the whole "who cares if something breaks it's cheap enough to buy another lolol" mindset is a bit ludicrous. What happens when the 2nd one breaks? AT that point you've spent more moeny and a tons more time on these turds of products than you would have a something not made by a 12 year old blind retard in a 3rd world country. SSA seems to be a hit or miss type gamble-- swing if you want but I;d rather save up a couple more bucks and not run the risk of runing my car and spending a ton of time doing it.
well, I can always take the turbo apart and examine for problems, and if it has some ill ship it to the turbo refurb place my shop uses, and if the manifold doesnt have any supports and the welds suck, ill just re weld it at my shop, and I know fuel management it just as imortant if not more important than the turbo itself
Oh I never said I knoew of a bunch of times that they broke in half like that but I have personally known them to fail within a few months of install. I just hate to see these companies put out crap products and have people spend their hard-earned cash on it only to turn out to be polished logs.
Please don't send those crooks your money.You want a cheap turbo kit? Piece one together yourself. Almost all the stuff you'd need is readily had in our own classifieds. A basic log mani for good clearance, a Z31 T3 for quick spool and decent power combined with affordability, some SR 370cc injcectors or a used FMU from someone's BD Stage 1 kit. (of course with the 370's you'll need some management but you should invest in a simple piggyback anyway-- used Greddy emanages are great.) Then just buy a nissan T3 steel output flange and take your car to a good exhaust shop and they can bend you up a nice turbo-back exhaust, just make sure it's straight through and atleast 2.5" if you really want the most out of the turbo.
Please don't send those crooks your money.You want a cheap turbo kit? Piece one together yourself. Almost all the stuff you'd need is readily had in our own classifieds. A basic log mani for good clearance, a Z31 T3 for quick spool and decent power combined with affordability, some SR 370cc injcectors or a used FMU from someone's BD Stage 1 kit. (of course with the 370's you'll need some management but you should invest in a simple piggyback anyway-- used Greddy emanages are great.) Then just buy a nissan T3 steel output flange and take your car to a good exhaust shop and they can bend you up a nice turbo-back exhaust, just make sure it's straight through and atleast 2.5" if you really want the most out of the turbo.
yeah i can't argue with that. i am saying that the turbo i got from them and the manifold have been just fine and i have had no problems. but yeah i never expected this kit to last forever... i kind of planned on it going out after a little while and then buying something better... i bought mine because the price was right at the time and i knew i didn't need the best setup money can buy...