This kills me....

[ninjak84]

well, on my 100th post, i have something to ask.....what would you do if you were me?i have a chance to purchase a bone stock, black, 1986 toyota MR2. and yeah, i'd have to sell my 240.heres some specs:1986 Toyota MR2- black- all power options- mint condition, MINT!- all receipts and records- new plugs and timing belt- 117,000 kms on stock engine (remember, thats KILOMETERS)- $ 5,000 (canadian)

heres the thing tho... i could easily sell my car (no rims and ps1) for $9,000 canadian. that leaves me with $4,000 to play with. and the insurance is going to be so much lower...... im in love with both cars, and i would cry to see someone else drivin my 240.... i love this car, but i always wanted an older mr2, and this one is as good as they get

opinions.......? please?:(

[Stoneage_Turbo]

is it supercharged , if not i would wait . there is always something beatter out there .

[deesolballs]

Why not keep both since the MR2 is so cheap. I was considering looking into the 240 but if a 240 owner would rather have an 86 MR2...makes one question the 240. Help me to understand. We are talking about this right?

[MaineExport]

I'd take the last genertion MR2 ovwer my 240sx anyday, but not those matchbox looking things. Yes, the supercharged MR2s are fast, faster than a 240, but they are BUTT ugly. I have also heard about reliability issues... just from the one guy I know who owned one. I thought the insurance would be higher, as they are a two seater I believe... Anyway, that's beside the point, I think they're ugly and look like a Pontiac Fiero!....uuuugh. or even worse.... a Pulsar.........

[Spectre]

Man, you have to consider practicality. The MR2 may be fast, but good luck keeping it as your only car. There is almost no trunk and your passenger seat has more cargo room. I thought about getting an MR2 for a while myself, but I picked the 240 because it's a semi-practicle car. I have a trunk, a backseat, and unsurpassed reliability. It really depends on your situation. I'm a college student who still lives at home right now, that may change when I transfer for a four year college(dorm), but I plan on keeping my 240 through my college life. If I follow that plan I will need a car that will help me move my stuff, it's as simple as that. The choice is yours, but choose the car that you can keep later on. It seems kind of pointless to dump all that money into an MR2 and have to give it up later.

[ninjak84]

practicality is not an issue, and the one im looking at is MUCH nicer than the white one. its all black, with no trim or any paint marks on it. no accidents, no repaints, and it has ALOT less mileage than my 240.

deesolballs: i dont have $5000 to just put into a car, im only 18

Stoneage_Turbo: its not supercharged

MaineImport: my 240 as is would tear apart this MR2

Spectre: whichever car i own, is going to be parked while im at school. i'll only drive it during my 4 months off a year, during summer.

[Spectre]

If practicality doesn't matter then go for it, just make sure it's been maintained. You might be able to transplant the supercharged engine into it. Look for the j-spec version, it runs a higher compression. If you can't go blower then focus on mods that will up the torque, 4AGE lacks lb-ft. 4AGZE is another case.

[neurovish]

mr2's are a pain to work on, and there's the aforementioned space issue. I thought about getting one of the last generation of mr2s sold here, but decided it'd be much easier to live with a 240...not that the trunk and back seat are terribly spacious, but it offers a lot more room than the mr2. I certainly wouldn't mind having one for a 2nd car.

[DDWQ45T]

MR2s are a lot of fun, but think hard about the two-seater no cargo thing. It's obnoxious for an only car.

You might also want to remember it is a 1986. Lots of stuff rots off in 16 years. You may need the price difference for stuff like water pumps, radiators, brake hydraulics, etc.

I liked the 1990 turbo version. Had the Yamaha 4v head and drove like a psychotic bat out of hell with 190 hp.

[juazam_186]

Dude,DON'T DO IT!!!Your 240 is extremely more versatile that the MR.Having said that, go with what you REALLY like.When you like something alot, you'll maintain it better.As for the space issue, if you have enough room for a Hot Babe, that's all the room you REALLY need.Good Luck on whatever you decide.:ylsuper

[Daunttless]

You could buy my RX-7 Turbo II for the same price and it'd be nicer, faster, and prettier. : )

[MaineExport]

Another shameless promotion by Daunttless! :pface

[Spectre]

Shameless promotion or not he has a good point. Love those rotaries :yummy. Hey daunt, have you sold that thing yet?

[ninjak84]

no MR2 for me:) i called the place to sell my car, and while i was telling the woman all about it, i was like "actually, nevermind"i *heart* my 240sx

[Daunttless]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...21271

Its all about the shameless plug, its doing pretty well on the auction block. : )

[looksLikeA240]

Hey, I have both cars. I have a 91 hatch with a ca18det in it. Gonna use it for track. It has lots of power and is rather light. Then I also have a mk1 mr2, like the one you were thinking about getting. I bought the mr2 becuase i needed a fun beater. It comes with a 4age which most know is an extremely reliable motor. The car handles great weighing in at only 2300 pounds stock. Could brake better. It has more cargo space than the 240 unless you count the back seats of the 240. The supercharged motors delivers much more power but really lacks the handleing characteristics of the NA models ( 300 pounds heavier). There is plenty of roomo to work on the motor. Only bad thing is the transmission is bolted to one side of the chassis and the motor is bolted to the other making it harder to change clutches and deep work. The mrk1 will beat up on a 240 rather easily, sorry. But with any kind of turbo motor in a 240 will rape a mr2. The body grows on you. The interior design is fantastic with the shifter short but mounted high. Its very fun to drive and revs high. Handles excellent with slight understeer. If I had to choose one in stock trim it would be the mr2. Modified though definately the 240.. To get other opinions check out the mr2 forums. 240 forums will obviously give you a pro 240 approach. PEACE

Dustin :ylsuper

[boMex]

I like both of the cars but all I'm seeing in my head is an S13 Silvia conversion...JDM GODZILLA style. Can't beat that s*** from where I'm standing.

[ninjak84]

Dustin: theres some things you wrote that make me question your knowledge of MR2's very much....

1: no mr2 on earth has more cargo room than a 240. plain and simple.2: there is NO room to work on the mid-mounted MR2 engine3: i can take any 86-89 stock MR2, supercharged or not. the normal MR2's of that generation are 115hp, and the supercharged ones are only 145hp. both are easy kills for me in my 240.

[looksLikeA240]

-the mr2 has two trunks front and back. If you don't count the back seats of an s13 then the mr2 has more. -Stock s13 runs a 16.4 quartermile, stock mr2 non supercharged runs a 16.3. - supercharged mr2 runs a 15 flat stock. Stock mr2 will also reach higher speeds due to the speed cut. Although the mr2 also has a cut but its not as low as the s13.-There is plenty of room to work on the motor. Go look at one; I can touch any part of the car easily without taking anything out or lifting. PLENTY OF ROOM to work on it. I question your knowledge very much

[ninjak84]

- the two trunks are both tiny, and the front one holds the spare tire

- i've raced and beaten both versions of the 86-89 mr2

- i've looked and touched an mr2 engine, your definition of roomy needs redefining

[looksLikeA240]

Ok so what part of the car do you think is hard to work on? Please tell me.

It doesnt matter if you think you've beaten them or not. Anyone can race a car ****tily. Where you racing grandma. The point is that if the same driver races the two cars, then the mr2 will come out on top. it's not even close with the supercharged version.

[deesolballs]

What is faster, the MR2 or 240? This conversation is like arguing the quickness of a turtle and a tortoise. Both are unattractive, both are hell-a-slow and who cares who wins. MR2 or 240, Big Mac or Whopper, Golden Corral or Barnhill Buffet, Coke or Pepsi, Cheetos or Cheese Curls...You selling the 240 and buying an MR2 would be like meeting the neighbor half way and exchanging early morning turds. You'll just have a different POS on your hands.

[Mayhem_J30]

i don't know which is faster, but i would probably choose a mr2 if i could get the turbo. the smallness, turbo and midengine design sounds appealing.

[MaineExport]

Oh.... s***..

deesolballs is spreading like a bad VD.. now he's infected the General chat boards like my mom infected him!!!

[Daunttless]

A mom crack against Dees, oh, how ironic. : )

[deesolballs]

hmmm, touche'.

[Bubba]

MR2's of that era were Tossable and fun, but cramped and homely. Might be fun to use on a track/autocross but not as a daily driver. If it were me, I'd keep the 240sx as a daily driver and consider the MR2 for track events.

[ninjak84]

looksLikeA240 : what the hell is wrong with you? you open the hood to work on a 240, and you can get at the engine from all angles. on an MR2, theres a small "flap" that you open to peek at the engine from. are you a midget??? cause the MR2 engine is a hell of a lot harder to get at unless you're running around inside the damn chassis....and as for your "supercharged knowledge", the SC 86-89 mr2 is only 142hp fool. not 500 like you make it seem, its only 142hp. i can take it any day of the week, even if your idiot a$$ is driving. dont make MR2's out to be ultimate street machines. they are 20 year old weak cars.

[Daunttless]

Thats what people thought about Takumi's AE86.....

: )

[AZhitman]

Seems to me that someone's relying solely on HP numbers and failing to consider weight, gearing, and traction. 142 HP is a lot in a really light car. Considering people get all goo-goo over a Civic Si (125hp in 1992-95) that weighs 700(?) pounds more, those 142 horses are nothing to sneeze at.

Bone stock in "as new condition", my $'s on the MR2 - No offense to the 240 guys, but I drove a new one (it was supercharged) back in the day and it was freakin' quick. I think the 240 gives up several hundred pounds to the MR2, and I can guarantee the MR hooks up faster due to its almost 50/50 weight distribution.

Don't even think of running a road course against one - That's where it really shines. While it's not "the ultimate street machine", it'll run the slaloms far quicker than a 240. Matter of fact, I seem to remember a R&T Shootout between the MR2 and some damn Ferrari wherein the MR2 outperformed the F in the slalom, braking, and the skidpad. Only place it got beat was the 1/4 mile, and that was only by a fraction of a second.