Third gear problem

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RobDET
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My third gear grinds on an 1-3 or 2-3 shift but not on a 5-3 or 4-3 shift. Any ideas? All the other gears are fine. I was thinking at first that it was the syncro on third gear but it seems like that would have it goign in hard from both directions...

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NISTECH
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still could be the syncro. input speed verses output speeds are different going up then going down.

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RobDET
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OK. How big of a deal is syncro replacement? I am confident i can get the transmission apart and back together but are there any wierd alignment tools or anything else you need or is it just "reassembly is the reverse of disassembly"?

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you will need a hydrolic press to seperate the internal components and special sleeves to press it back together. Its not a big deal if your not trying to hot rod your car. I have heard many people use a synthetic oil to cure grinding conditions. although a recent class at nissan tech school they suggested not doing it and said if a car was still under factory warrenty,if it was tested to have a synthetic fluid in the trans when a failure occured the claim would be denied. They stated the synthic oil was allowing the syncro to slip on its brakeing suface and not perform as designed. On this issue I am kinda on the fence so heres my input. If my car was as old as yours is, it is obviously no longer under warrenty so I would be willing to at least try a synthetic lubricant to see if it has any improvement. If it got worse I would switch back to the normal gear oil and drive it till it either grenaded the trans or I sold it. If it grenaded I would hit up the junkyard for another trans and purchase the exchange policy so if anything was wrong I could get another one. I would not even waste my time trying to rebuild it as the parts to overhaul it would likely exceed the price to replace it with a used one. not to mention the time difference between the 2 tasks.

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RobDET
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Thanks for the advice NISTECH... It's an SR transmission so i need to keep the bellhousing. My old KA transmission is perfect and they guts are interchangable. so i think i'm going to take the plunge and swap bellhousings instead of trying to fix the syncro on third. Time to research that...

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RobDET
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I got the guts out of my old KA transmission. It was cake. Next weekend hopefully i'll swap the internals and have third gear again!


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