Thinner front wider rear

[xckid]

Would handling be differnt if you where to have a 205-50-16 in front and a 215-50-16 in rear. What do you have to do if you go wider tires. Now dont flame I know theres no point in having a wider tire if you dont have power. But just curious . Cause i found these and i like them.Maybe one day when i get my car sorted out. But for now just asking.

[GhostDriver]

You'd just be running a staggered setup. I guess its to run a wider rear for traction and having a smaller front to reduce understeer. I'm not sure though.

[xckid]

Would i have to change the offset since its wider .

[SmithSR]

With such mild sized tires, I wouldn't fuss with offset.Power really has nothing to do with tire size and width. Handling is the real issue. (as mentioned above by another poster)And the other critical rule is, make absolutely sure the tire's load index meets or exceeds the OEM standard.

[maxnix]

I guess its to run a wider rear for traction and having a smaller front to reduce understeer. I'm not sure though.

Good, because that set-up would actually increase understeer.

[naed240sx]

I run 205/55/16 and 225/50/16. I have kts coilovers with no preload, f/r stb's, and stock sway bars. Handling fleels pretty neutral. 215 is in no way too wide for stock engine. Sure, it may be difficult for me to spin the 225 es100's with nearly stock ka, but handling is great, and lauching is very easy.

[xckid]

Maxnix Question how would that increase understeer. What is the load index or how much is it

[naed240sx]

because there will be more grip in the rear.

[xckid]

So it would be wise to say just same all around.

[naed240sx]

no, the effect on understeer is extremely minimal, as long as you dont have some crazy stagger. 10 mm is nothing, 20(the difference between my tires) isnt enough to screw up your handling either. Plus, it gives you grip where you need it most. Nothing wrong with staggering.

[GhostDriver]

I thought larger front tires increased understeer thus the need for staggering.

[naed240sx]

I thought larger front tires increased understeer thus the need for staggering.

how could that be true. A car will understeer when the front tires loose grip first while cornering hard, oversteer if the rears loose grip first.

[Exar-Kun]

Slap whoever told you that, then procede to the FAQ...

-Chet

[GhostDriver]

Maybe I came off sounding weird. I'm not suggesting running a 205 if you've got a 255 in the rear. What I meant to say was that there are negative effects of running too big of a front tire. Anyway, I'm off to learn more.

[naed240sx]

ummm, not really, as long as the front isnt wider, and the back isnt alot wider, its all good.

[chmercer]

Maybe I came off sounding weird. I'm not suggesting running a 205 if you've got a 255 in the rear. What I meant to say was that there are negative effects of running too big of a front tire. Anyway, I'm off to learn more.

nope, only negative to big front tires is that it is harder to make fit. i guess it slows the steering response a little bit, but if it does, the effect is minimal. steamrollers up front = awesome. makes the car go where you point it easier

[grimple1]

also with staggered you have less tire rotation options. All you can do is switch the rears and fronts from side to side. No cross roation.

[naed240sx]

yeah and when you have directional tires its even greater becauase you have to remount the tires to switch them from side to side.

[j-z]

im running 16x7 +16 (205-50, ****ty tires), and 16x8 +22 (225-45, es 100s) in the rear. suspension wise im running d2 7/5 coilovers, ST sways, STBs, and all arms and rods. at first, i had 16x7s (the ones in the pic) with 225-45 es100s all around. with the new setup it is alot easier to drive and predict. my car needed this staggerizing fo sho. i like the staggeres setup tons better, and i can tell it will be really sweet to drive on a road course. i just ordered the hankook rs2s, so its gonna be really sick once i get those mounted up. there will be some pics up next weekend. watch out for em.

[xckid]

Wow i lerned alot about tires .To bad i didnt learn how to spell thanks for all the info.Very helpfully

[Darius]

Along the lines of staggering the tire width, when does it begin to create problems with understeer? I'm thinking of running 18x9 and 18x10 on my S14...is understeer going to have to be compensated for with suspension adjustments or will it not make much difference if the wideths are only an inch off?

[naed240sx]

depends on what size tires you run. just keep the tire widths close. like within 20mm. Im running 205 f and 225 rear, and I dont have any issues.

[InsanityInc]

any stagger will noticably change your handling capabilities. The reason for wider rears on RWD cars is due to power oversteer. In order to maintain neutral handling in cars with lots of power, you want to make sure that the *** end stays planted during a turn even when applying power.