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KATwo40
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So, what's the going price on a fully forged, bored and balanced KADE with 8.8:1 pistons?

I'm thinking of something different for my 240 and I'm just weighing some options and factoring in $$$. This may or may not be a pipe dream, so I won't comment on what I'm considering. Just wondering what's the market for my built engine with less than 1000mi on it.


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Well considering AMS charges 4grand just for the motor, I'd say ask for $6000 with everything complete. We're talking motor, turbo, tuned ecu for 400ish whp, transmission, clutch and lightened flywheel. With all the friggin parts you have in it dude...I think 6K is a good deal.

Here's AMS Crate

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Dang, you're right! They listed "check crank for balance," whereas mine has been fully balanced.

Hmmm, I'm gonna kick this around a bit...

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Going VH45DETT?

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Or LS1...depends on how much pressure I put on him...LMAO.

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Keep it Nissan with boost, you want to go pushrod then "get ur self a Camaro.... Get Her Done" .

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Chezedik wrote:Keep it Nissan with boost, you want to go pushrod then "get ur self a Camaro.... Get Her Done" .
narrow minded people these days:), why go vh45 when ls1 can be cheaper/more power?:P and about same weight if not less(due to the vh bigger heads)

am with ya WD on ls1! if i could i would have an ls1 in my S13 right now.

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or why not the ls7 all aluminum v8 or the 3.5 rover v8... why I think the same reason u dont put a 350 into your ford pickup remaining true to your car NISSAN!!!!

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I mean if I am going to jump ship I might as well go Ford 5.0 HO.

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How about a rotary while you're at it! :P

Your setup might be worth $6000, but without a warranty and a receipt you might only get $4000.

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NateDogg wrote:Your setup might be worth $6000, but without a warranty and a receipt you might only get $4000.
This is a good point.

For now, it's come down to this. The S13 is NOT a good candidate for large engine swaps because the bay is so cramped. The LS engine requires removal of the radiator support and all kinds of hack-n-whack stuff.

As it stands, I'm rockin' this S13 with the built KA. Maybe later I'll get an S14 and cram something into it, but for now, I'll just hang.

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Oh no...to late for that. You're selling that KAT and bying a V8 somthing!!!!

If you buy a rotary I'll hitch hike to your house and beat you semi retarded and steal your dirt bikes.

When swapping a motor, you want THE best option. Maker has crap to do with that when power, reliability and aftermarket are concerned.

I've seen a 454 wedged into an S13...don't tell me a LSx motor won't fit. No go to that site on EBAY and buy a clip tomarrow!

Or, buy a whole Q45 for the price of the LSx set and you'll definitly have enough parts for a good swap. The LSx is a tad difficult, but I don't think much more so then the VH45.

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I have a line on a pignose with a popped SOHC for pretty cheap.

I've been seriously thinking about snaggin' it up and stuffing a nitrous monster V8 into it. Those old foxbody 5.0 302's sure did LOVE nitrous in stock form.

hehe, then it would be a 2Fordy.

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Now that was funny ^ If you wamt more power get a bigger turbo or just turn up the boost

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KATwo40 wrote:For now, it's come down to this. The S13 is NOT a good candidate for large engine swaps because the bay is so cramped. The LS engine requires removal of the radiator support and all kinds of hack-n-whack stuff.

As it stands, I'm rockin' this S13 with the built KA. Maybe later I'll get an S14 and cram something into it, but for now, I'll just hang.
the ls1 is barely longer than the ka......so there's no need to remove no radiator support or all kinds of hack-n-whack stuff, i seem to think that the S13 has more engine bay than S14(worked on both cars with engines in and out).

then again i think the easier to get the power and reliability, the better.(@ the cost of "not keepin it nissan")

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What does an LS go for? As WD said, you should be able to get a VH in the whole car. On the other hand, the DOHC means big heads, and the swap will require greasing the strut pillars up and jumping on the top of the engine to squeeze it in.

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Charlie240sxt wrote:Now that was funny ^ If you wamt more power get a bigger turbo or just turn up the boost
It's not an issue of wanting more power, but rather an issue of wanting different characteristics, overall.

The KA is fun, and I don't regret the build I've done, by any means. The learning experience is one that could not have been bought for the amount of money I've spent on this project.

While the LS w/ trans is a tad bit heavier than the KA w/ trans, the weight is distributed lower and toward the center of the car. This makes the balance better. Factor in the heavy turbo, wastegate and intercooler, and the KA makes the nose of the car substantially heavier.

The LS isn't much longer than the KA, but the Hinson Racing kit shows the front being into the normal radiator area on an S13.

Again, I'm not looking to totally rebuild this car three or four times. This KA is fully built to handle 550whp (AMS Sportsman rod limit) and I'll probably just leave it in the car and mostly drag race it, with the occasional Dragon run and lots of street driving.

However, there is a road course coming to my town. Completion is to be late 2008 and ground has been broken. I'll be taking a position at a local import performance shop in the near future, likely to be "the 240 guy", so I'll need to be equipped to handle different kinds of events for shop promotions and such.

It's quite probable that I'll build an SR powered 240 for the road course. After recently driving one, I can totally understand the attraction, as the difference in weight distribution was incredible. Additionally, the little sucker revved like a Honda! lol (Please don't turn this into an SR vs KA debate...just leave it for what it is...comments about something different)

As for the rotary...I'd roll the car off a cliff first. Those motors suck.


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