Thinking of importing a Rogue from the US into Canada?

[exeunt]

Sure, if you have a US drivers license or at least have a US address. I don't think you can just register a vehicle in another country and drive it around in Canada. I'm not sure of all the details though. Overall, I did some research and couldn't find a way to do it without actually living in the US for 6 months

[lenvoile]

At the time of buying my U.S. Rogue, I checked with the Vermont state and it is possible to register a vehicule without being a citizen of the Vermont (have to pay tax 6%). The probleme is to insure the vehicule in Quebec with a registration of the Vermont state, I could not find any insurance compagny that acccept to cover the vehicule with a different registation of my residance (Quebec). Then i checked to register the vehicule in Quebec while it is register in vermont, and it is not possible (have to export the vehicule from U.S. to be able to register in Quebec!) So i exported my rogue from u.s. and registered in quebec, with no warranty at all.

[mrdwighthanson]

All Nissan factory warranties are void in Canada if the car was imported new from the States. That being said, our dealership, Nissan of Keene, will honour all warranty issues if the vehicle is brought back to us for the work.

There are a couple of good third party warranty companies in Canada that will cover your butts for far less than the savings you will realize importing from the states.One more thing, We don't charge sales tax to canadians, ever.

If anyone is interested in getting the best deal without hassles give me a call or email me at;

[email protected]

You can view our web site at nissanofkeene.com

[mrdwighthanson]

Even tho I wasn't able to get you into your Rogue, We will still cover your warranty work for you. If you need something worked on and don't mind driving to Southern New Hampshire, we've got your back.

Just a quick hop down I89 and I91. Come on down and we will hook you up!

[Riga08]

HiNew to the forum. I've read all way through. Thanks for sharing your expirrienceI'm going to buy Rogue in April and consider to do it from US could someone summirise what should be done to bring Rogue to Canada? Here are my assumptions 1. State to buy from - NY (I'm at GTA) - no sales tax2. Estomated price from Dealer for SL AWD with Premium - 23K US3 To pay at the border - 6.1% NAFTA + PST/GST4 To satisfy Canadain safety - DRL should be done5 Warranty is an void for cars less then 6 month old

is this correct so far?

[exeunt]

Basically that's it. Small corrections:

- Price is whatever you can negotiate- DRL needs to be done, and you might need to get airbag stickers that are in English & French- Warranty is void unless its registered in the US then brought into Canada 6 months later.- GST & PST are paid separately. One at the border, the other at the MTO.

Of course there are more steps involved, like getting recall clearance, etc, but you've got a good start. There are a few websites around that outline the whole process if you search for it.

[Riga08]

ThanksDo you know dealer you'd recommend?

[exeunt]

About half the dealerships I talked to willingly sold to Canadians. That's probably changed slightly, as many are now even posting ads in the Toronto Star.

I'm not sure if they want to be publicized or not, for fear of retaliation, so if you want, send me an email and I'll fill you in on who I used.

[Msdarkdiva]

I had my DRLs installed in Plattsburg, New York (approx. 90 minutes south of Montreal), before bringing my Rogue across the border. I saved a ton of money by doing it stateside.

Try performance/tuning shops if you're having trouble finding a place to do it. That's what I did and they had mine installed in about an hour (using my fog lights for the DRLs).

[mrfantastic74]

I've read through this thread (great info! thanks, guys!) and various other sites, and I've come up with a list of things I have to do or consider with regard to importing a Rogue from the USA. I'll jot them down in point form, and add some questions that I hope you all can answer for me. If any of my info is wrong, please correct me. I'm writing from the perspective of importing into Vancouver, so things may be slightly different where you are.

If money is the real deciding factor in vehicle importation, then I wouldn't import a Nissan. First, you pay duty on it, AND the warranty isn't honoured in Canada (unless you register it in the States and import it 6 months later- not an option for me or most of us; it's Nissan's way of sticking it to us), so you have to dish out a little extra for third-party warranty. However, I love the Rogue and am pretty set on it I plan on importing in the next few months.

1. Make sure you are permitted to import the vehicleThe latest information on the Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) says that the Rogue built post-September 1st, 2007, is PERMITTED. Verify with the dealer the date of manufacture of your vehicle and double-check the list.

2. Where to buy it from?Find a state that does not have a state tax. In my case, it looks likely that I'll be making a trip down to Oregon. That is, unless you can somehow get reimbursed for state tax. Does anyone know if you get reimbursed for Washington State tax?Find a dealer that will sell to Canadians. Not all will. Can anyone recommend a dealer to me (either Oregon or Washington)?Does anyone know if you can finance a car if bought in the States? Or do you have to pay for it all?

3. WarrantyAs mentioned above, a third-party warranty is necessary. This can not be obtained until after the vehicle is imported into Canada. Can anyone recommend some good ones? Do you think that you can obtain a discount from the dealer, as you will not be using their US warranty?

4. Canadian safety standardDaytime running lights need to be installed prior to import. Check with the dealer, as they may be able to do his for you for cheap. Otherwise, make an appointment at an autoshop stateside and have it done before you reach the border. It can be done in Canada as well, but may be more expensive.The proper safety stickers are required as well. Does anyone know how to verify this? I assume that the feds send you the bilingual stickers later after the inspection, correct?Are all other aspects of the car OK, as far as Canadian standards are concerned?

5. Documents required-US Title to the vehicle (have at least one certified copy made, as well as 2 additional copies).-Bill of Sale/ Transfer of Ownership- Recall Notice from the manufacturer. Who should you call for this? General Nissan customer support?

6. US CustomsNotify USA Customs at least 72 hours in advance of arriving at the border (Is this still true?). Tell them you are exporting vehicle, and send them the certified copy of the title, and 2 copies of the title. It's best to do this well in advance. Here a question: Can you really get the title well in advance of making the trip down to pick up the vehicle? It seems tricky.

7. Insurance and Permits to drive (Based on info from 2002; please let me know if this had changed)Insurance coverage is needed for the drive from the dealership to the border. In BC, ICBC sells a "binder of insurance", which supposedly covers your insurance for the States (Can anyone confirm this?). Supposedly, the dealer provides a 30-day transit permit to drive the car to the border. Confirmatons?Do we need some kind of provincial temporary permit (for when the car is admitted into Canada) until we have the vehicle inspected? The reason I ask is that, at least in BC, it seems that you can not register and insure the vehicle until after inspection. Is it not a little risky to drive the vehicle around without registration and insurance? Can somebody walk me through these steps?

8. At the border- Use the correct border crossing. Some are better equipped for vehile imports. For Vancouver, it seems that the truck crossing (Douglas) at Peace Arch is the best bet. -A brokerage company handles the paperwork, and thus a brokerage fee is applied (see below). You wil need: Title, Bill of Sale, mileage and the month and day of manufacture (found on door jamb sticker).-Proceed to Customs and pay all the fees as follows:Brokerage (~$182, as of 2002)Duty (6.1% of the CDN value of what you paid for the vehicle, correct?)Excise tax for A/C ($100)GST (5% of the CDN value...) Registration and Insurance (for BC at least, as of 2002)Bring your vehicle to the nearest approved ICBC inspection office to carry out the PVIP inspection. Do you have to make an appointment in advance? Can anyone recommend a particular office? Do you have to do AirCare as well?If the inspection is passed, ICBC will ask for the Title and Bill of Sale (which they keep, so make copies). At this point, the PST is due. Someone on here posted that BC residents get the PST back. Is that true? I'm not sure it is. Then they give you your plates and you're all set.. sort of...

Federal InspectionThe last step. Wait for a letter from RIV indicating that you need the inspection carried out. I believe all Canadian Tires are set up for this. Present your recall notice from the manufacturer in this step. They will check for DRLs and correct safety stickers, child seat anchorages, etc. Also, bring all the paperwork you have. After passing, you receive copies of paperwork, new stickers and also a sticker for your odometer saying that its in miles. Speaking of which, I'd hate to have an ugly sticker on my odometer. Can anyone let me know how to get it officially changed to kilometers? I'd also like to switch the speedometer to show the dominant numbers in kilometers, although this is less important.

That's about it. I hope someone can help with my questions to fill in the gaps for me.

[flybooey]

Also, guy at Canadian Tire said he cannot install DRL's cause the car is too new, where did you get yours installed?Just a few more hurdles to cross!

I spoke to a dealer in St. catherines, Collins Nissan i believe or it may have been Welland. They said they have done many DRL's so far I plan on getting mine done there prior to movin Canuckizstan this fall. The guy quoted me around 200 bucks i think

[Msdarkdiva]

Whew! What a post! I’m from Quebec so I’ll try to answer your questions from a QC perspective and hopefully someone will fill you in on the BC specific stuff!

Even with the duty + 3rd party warranty, you can still save money versus a Canadian purchase. How much depends on what the purchase price of the vehicle is. I don’t regret buying it in the States at all!

1. Make sure you are permitted to import the vehicle.The Rogue is permitted (built after Sept 1st) but there is a little asterisk beside it on the RIV site, indicating that you probably have to jump through a few more hoops- I’m not sure what hoops they will be because mine was built in August 2007.

2. Where to buy it from?I purchased mine in Massachusetts = no tax. Google and call Nissan dealerships in Oregon to verify if there is tax for vehicles which will be used out of state. I did not consider financing my Rogue, I paid for it in full (which, in the end, I think was much easier).

3. WarrantySearch this thread for 3rd party warranty companies, several are listed. I don’t think the dealer will give you a discount because you are not using the US warranty (but it never hurts to ask)! Some may even honour the warranty if you drive back to Oregon for warranty work (which may or may not be convenient for you).

4. Canadian safety standardI had my daytime running lights installed in the US but you don’t need them prior to import (at the border). You can install them here in Canada, if you wish. However, you must have them installed before you take it in for inspection! It may also cost you a lot less Stateside too! I had my DRLs installed, using my fog lights, at a tuner/performance shop and paid $80 dollars and change (lucky)!

Apparently, you'll need bilingual airbag stickers for the inspection too, although, my CT guy didn’t even look for any stickers and my Rogue (surprisingly) came with safety warnings on the visors, in English and in French (but those stickers don't concern airbag maintenance)! Both the RIV and Nissan Canada said that they could/would NOT issue any stickers to me (so I had to get a little creative in order to have them for my inspection)! Maybe another one of the forum members could help you with the sticker question. All other aspects of the car are fine!

5. Documents required-US Title to the vehicle: Yes-Bill of Sale/ Transfer of Ownership: Yes- Recall Notice from the manufacturer: Yes. You get can get the Recall Notice from the dealership, however it must be on their official letterhead.

6. US CustomsYeah, it can be a little tricky but it's not insurmountable. Some border crossings allow you to fax in the paperwork. Check here http://www.carburner.com/index.php?title=Main_Page. (also listed at the beginning of this thread BTW ). Basically, I drove down, paid for my Rogue, got the paperwork, left the vehicle at the dealer, and then when driving back into Canada dropped off the necessary documents at US customs (homeland security)! 72 hours later, after my Rogue was cleared at Homeland, I went back to the dealer, picked up my ride and drove it into Canada with a juicy smile on my face! Thankfully, I had good friends to help me out with this (and again I thank everyone involved)! Good friends are a must!

7. Insurance and Permits to drive (Based on info from 2002; please let me know if this had changed).I checked with my insurance before heading out for this adventure and the drive from the dealership was covered under my existing plan at no extra charge. Massachusetts does not issue temporary plates (each State is different so check to see if the State you are buying from issues temporary plates to get from point A-B). However, the dealer was kind enough to issue one of their dealer’s plates to me, which I couriered back to them after my inspection! I did not need a temporary permit to drive it here in Quebec.

8. At the borderUse the correct border crossing. Yes. Usually it’s one of the bigger ones in your area (again check carburner/RIV).I did not use a brokerage company, and you shouldn't either! It’s not necessary! You're already half way there! Besides with a username of mrfantastic- I think you can do it yourself too! Cut out the middle man and save some cash!

Duty (6.1% of the CDN value of what you paid for the vehicle, correct?) YesExcise tax for A/C ($100) Yes.GST (5% of the CDN value...) Yes

Registration and Insurance (for BC at least, as of 2002)Some one else will have to help you with this question!

Federal InspectionWhen I paid the GST etc. at customs they took the RIV fee and faxed the information directly from there. Some customs offices will allow you to pay the fee either from their office or at home online (which means you get the inspection forms faster- I had to wait a few days).

I believe all Canadian Tires are set up for [the inspection] thisYes.Present your recall notice from the manufacturer in this step.I can't remember if I needed the recall notice at this point, but I did need the RIV paperwork along with the customs papers (I had all of my paperwork with me anyway). They will check the DRLs, check to make sure that it has an immobilizer and check the speedometer to make sure that kilometers are listed on the dial along with miles (they didn’t give me any stickers for the speedometer or odometer either, thankfully!) and the infamous bilingual airbag stickers. My CT guy didn't look in the back other than saying "hey, this is nice!"

Can anyone let me know how to get it officially changed to kilometers? Still trying to figure that out: zerothread/316313

I'd also like to switch the speedometer to show the dominant numbers in kilometers, although this is less important.I think we’ll eventually have to order that part from Nissan or change it up to a fancy aftermarket one!

After you follow all these steps and pass with flying colors (and you will) the RIV will issue you a sticker that you have to put in your Rogue stating that your vehicle meets Canadian standards and is legal to be driven here- with your own big juicy smile on your face

Good luck!

[mrfantastic74]

Wow, thanks for the great response, Msdarkdiva! I really appreciate that you took the time to answer.

I'd also appreciate if anyone else has more to add, to help me fill in the gaps of my knowledge.

[mrfantastic74]

I just got off the phone with a guy at RIV. He said (as was stated in here a few times already) that the 2008 Rogue manufactured after Sep. 1st, is admissible IF it is equipped with an immobilizer.

Then I asked him if the "intelligent key" system is viewed the same way as an immobilizer. He said "yes". I asked if he was sure it would pass inspection, and he replied "yes". I should have gotten his name, because he may have just wanted me to get off the phone...

Anyway, I just want to clarify with you guys, as you may have some insight. Does intelligent key replace the immobilizer requirement?

[mrfantastic74]

About the immobilizer again... I'm getting conflicting reports from different people in RIV and Transport Canada regarding the admissibility of either the standard "Nissan Vehicle Immobilizer" (which is listed on the US MSRP) or the "Intelligent Key" system, with regard to Canada's immobilizer requirement.

Is there anyone out there who has imported a post-September 1st Rogue? Did you have to do anything special regarding the immobilizer? Please let me know ASAP. I've very close to making a deal with an Oregon dealership.Thanks a bunch!

[Msdarkdiva]

I don’t know if this will help but I found another website with import information:

http://www.carswithoutborders.com

Also, read back in this thread; bababui imported his vehicle recently, although I’m not sure of the build date on his Rogue. He welcomed PMs in his post, you should take him up on it!

[tiger111]

let me know which CT location did you go to

[mrfantastic74]

I picked up my Rogue yesterday and drove it home.

Now, I'm just waiting for my Form 2.

I haven't gotten my DRLs yet, so I'm wondering if I should get those done before the Canadian Tire inspection, or just wait until after my inspection (when they tell me I have 45 days to get it done).

[mmbedman]

I am considering bringing a Rogue in from New York State to Southern Ontario. Does anyone know a reliable, reasonably priced shipping company that could bring it across?

Any idea of the cost involved?

Thanks for your help.

[mrfantastic74]

Well, it's done!My Rogue is now registered, insured, and lisensed! It took three days for the Form 2 to be sent to me, and I was able to have it inspected and insured on the same day.Canadian Tire installed the DRLs at the same time as the inspection, and it only cost ~$130. Nobody questioned me about the immobilizer at all, and my vehicle was built in January.I thought the overall process was pretty darned easy, and I can't be happier now.

There is one minor issue now though. After the DRLs were installed, I have lost the lighting in my stereo faceplate, and I can't see the numbers, etc. I wonder if they blew some fuse, or crossed some wire, or if there's some dimmer switch I can't find that is somehow set to the lowest setting. Anyone know how to adjust the dimmer on the stereo?

[Msdarkdiva]

Congratulations!

Oh, I'm so happy for you! See, you did it yourself- I know it seemed intimidating at first, but there is no better feeling than when you first bring your baby across the border and then finally put that license plate on!

As someone who bought their Rogue with a build date after Sept. 1st, were there any other special requirements that you had to fulfill or was it pretty much the same as the rest of us (pre- Sept 1st buyers)?

What color did you get? What options? Post some pics!

[mrfantastic74]

Yeah, it feels pretty good to know I did it, and saved some $$$ in the process.

The RIV told me that as long as the purchase agreement indicates the presence of a factory installed immobilizer, and indicates the VIN#, then there would be no problems. I made sure to get my dealer to write a line about the immobilizer on the "We Owe" document, and I also had a copy of the vehicle window sticker that lists the "Nissan vehicle immobilizer."

I got a Gotham Gray (I guess that's carbon silver in Canada) SL AWD with leather package, premium package, moonroof, moonroof wind deflector, splashguards, and mats. Oh yeah, I have the chrome grille too I plan on getting a spoiler installed here in Vancouver (I know it's smaller in Canada, but I think it stil looks good), as well as the bumper protector. I'll post some pics when all is finished.

[mrfantastic74]

Canadian Tire definitely did screw something up, but they wouldn't fess up to it. They said "That's the way it should be. What's the problem?" The problem is that I should be able to see the numbers and clock on the stereo, even with the headlight switch in the off position. It worked before they fiddled with the DRLs and now it doesn't work.

So I called a Nissan service place nearby and they said something definitely wasn't right.

Now I'm trying to get CT to agree to reimburse me for service I will have performed at the Nissan dealer.

Well, it's done!There is one minor issue now though. After the DRLs were installed, I have lost the lighting in my stereo faceplate, and I can't see the numbers, etc. I wonder if they blew some fuse, or crossed some wire, or if there's some dimmer switch I can't find that is somehow set to the lowest setting.

[BDoiron]

Hey there, maybe this is some help. I just installed a hamsar drl module on my first rogue, same problem. No radio backlight. What i did was to correct it was disconnect the park light circuit from the module that i installed, (leaving the headlamp circuit only) Now radio back light works fine. I guess back feeding the park circuit will not illuminate radio properly. I left it as is, because park lamps being on for drl is not required..

Bob

[mrfantastic74]

It's Ok, actually. All's well now, as Canadian Tire re-wired the DRLs to my fog lights. Once they did that, the radio backlight issue was resolved.

[Ensurall]

Hey Guys,

I've been banned for spamming the forum.

[mmbedman]

I registered my used Blue AWD SL, fully loaded Rogue, 6,000 miles Aug 29, 2008. Imported from the USA. I bought it 6 months old for $22,900 USD. Had the DRL's done at Autotemp in Calgary for $235. All in taxes/duty/DRL's/Out of province $27,500 CAD. Bought my US$'s a few months ago for 98 cents CAD. According to Nissan USA the car has full warranty...haven't needed to challenge the warranty to date. I figure I saved $10,000 verse buying a brand new one in Canada.

[Msdarkdiva]

Congratz!

It's sweet getting a fully loaded one for less, isn't it?

According to Nissan USA the car has full warranty...haven't needed to challenge the warranty to date.

Did they say that it's warranty is good in the US and Canada or just in the US? Honestly, since I bought mine I haven't had any major issues, so I haven't checked to hear what they are now saying about the warranty, once you import.

So what's the latest?

[mmbedman]

The warranty will be honoured in Canada, because the car was greater than 6 months old. This is what I was told by Nissan North America a number of different times over the phone.

[philipa_240sx]

The warranty issue was covered earlier in this post. Like mmbedman and others have stated:

1) To retain the warranty the vehicle must be first registered in the US:

Quote »This warranty is provided to the original and subsequentowner(s) of a Nissan vehicle originally distributed by Nissanwhich is originally sold by a Nissan authorized Nissandealership in the United States, and which is registeredin the U.S. and normally operated in the United States(including Alaska and Hawaii), the United States territories(specifi cally Guam, Saipan, American Samoa, Puerto Ricoand the U.S. Virgin Islands), and Canada.[/quote]2) The warranty can be transferred to another owner outside of the US after 6 months:

Quote »This warranty is generally transferable from the original‘owner other than a Nissan dealer’ (OWNER) tosubsequent owners of the vehicle at any time ownership ofthe vehicle is transferred, without any action on your part;except that this warranty is not transferable but is insteadvoid if during the first six months after delivery to the originalOWNER: (1) ownership of the vehicle is transferred fromthe original OWNER, and (2) the vehicle is registeredoutside of the United States.[/quote] From Nissan USA http://www.nissanusa.com/pdf/w...y.pdf

Please Note:

- If the vehicle was purchased new and never registered in the US, item 1 above was not met and the warranty is void.- If the vehicle is sold within the first 6 months, relocated to Canada and re-registered, item 2 above was not met and the warranty is void.- Once voided, I doubt any Canadian or even US Nissan dealer will provide warranty service.

For a listing of warranty coverage on all makes of vehicles impoted from the US, read here: http://www.apa.ca/template.asp?DocID=253#NISSAN