Thinking of importing a Rogue from the US into Canada?

[Jazzy]

Finally, the Rogue 2008 is in the Admissible car for importation to Canada. It will be easier to make a decision if the Canadian price doesn't go down. I intend to buy in the spring. The only thing I need to know is how much cost a Rogue SL AWD with Premium Pack + moonroof. Is there anybody who know the out the door price of this car in the States? It's just to help me to make my decision. Thank you.

Frenchy.

P.S.: How is the Rogue in the snow.

[exeunt]

Read the thread named "Rogue snow performance review"

zerothread/294472

[bababui]

Just pulled a trigger on a new Rogue, getting it from Michigen (Ann Arbor Automotive). Picking it up on Thursday at the Ambassador Bridge crossing, I will take Greyhound bus from To. Hope I can get off on US Customs side, where my dealer will be waiting with the car. All this to avoid state tax of 6% in Michigen... So far dealing with this dealership has been a breeze, their internet sales guy (Robert Oliver) has been very helpful and has invested time to learn everything that is needed to sell to a Canadian for export. Still haven't decided on bank draft or wire transfer, should I be weary of wire transfer before seeing the vehicle live? How much will I save, don't even ask If anyone had similar experiences picking the vehicle up at Windsor - Detroit crossing please let me know how it went, I will post my experience on Friday.

Thanks to all of you for all the good info, as for warranty I will wait for a bit, hopefully nothing goes wrong.

[lozen13]

If its a dealer I would not be worried at all. I wire transferered my full amount.

Remember you must have the original title not a copy to cross.

[Jazzy]

Good luck bababui, Let me know how everthing goes. I'm thinking of buying in the States. Let me know about your dearlership also.

Congradulation,

Frenchy.

[bababui]

Guys how did you go about installing DRLs? My dealer is trying to get this done, but I am not sure if they have any experience with this. I'd rather do it over there before I pickup the vehicle, but they can't do it, what's the best place here in Toronto to do it?

[bababui]

I forgot ro pass info on my sales rep. I am getting my Rogue from Ann Arbor Automotive, sales rep Robert Oliver. He has been very helpful in getting this deal done, hope it stays the same tomorrow:)

[Ensurall]

Some Advice on Installing Day Time Running Lights.

Get them done in Canada at a Local mechanic.

I have a customer, he has had some electrical problems with the Day Time Running Lights installed by the US dealership. Ideally in this case you will want to take the car back to the person who originally installed the part to fix the problem. Obviously he is not in a position to take the car back to them and get it fixed.

[bababui]

Unfortunatelly just hit a road block with my Rogue, luckily 5 minutes before wireing the money. Just got a call from manager at Ann Arbor, saying that they cannot sell me the car without charging Michigen state tax of 6%, even though sales rep told me he would meet me at the border with the car. I am so pissed at the moment. Waiting to hear from original sales rep, refunding my deposit should not be a problem according to his manager, but I am stuck without a car. Got to call back other dealers.I guess I started celebrating a bit too quickly.

[Indiana Jones]

Hi Bababui, is your Rogue manufactured before or after Sep 1st, 2007? I factory ordered my Rogue on Oct/31/07. The following week it became inadmissable as it will be a after Sep 1 vehicle. (it is a factory order from Japan and will be in Montana for pick up at end of Jan). While it was touch and go for awhile, I'm pleased to see it is now admissable. However, the RIV website denotes an issue, perhaps, with the immobilizer. It may not, that's right, may not conform with cdn standard CMVSS114. The probelm is no one can tell me if it does meet the cdn safety requirement, not even the inspection guy at Canadian Tire. He says he can't tell until he sees my form 2 and in order mto get the form 2 I would need to have paid for the vehicle and brought it across the border. Only then can the inspection determine whether or not the immobilizer passes. And if it doesn't pass?, then what?My thought is this....it seems that all 2008 Toyotas and Hondas are fully admissable to Canada, no questions asked. That's if you can get a US dealership to sell one to a Canadian which they won't. So how kind of Transport Canada to allow us to bring them in. Nissan, however, will sell to Canadians so I have a feeling that Transport Canada may be using the so-called immobilizer "issue" as a deterent to Canadians. Let me tell you, it's working. I don't know what to think. Do you or anyone else have any insight on this? Much appreciated and good luck.

[exeunt]

Actually the immobilizer requirement was created in 2005 and only put into place in 2007, so its been around quite a while. Transport Canada just recently updated and moved many of the vehicles from the INADMISSIBLE column into the ADMISSIBLE column, but put a little EIS symbol beside many of them, including many 2008 Toyotas. I have a friend bringing in a Sienna on Wednesday next week, and it has this limitation as well. The only remaining problem is its not quote clear exactly what you need to do to prove that these cars have immobilizers. Section 9 in the following PDF has some information of how you can prove admissibility: http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety...S.pdf

1.Electronic Immobilizers Installed as Original Equipment and Certified to CMVSS 114Vehicles equipped with such systems do not require any special inspection or modifications. They are listed as admissible without anyspecial annotation regarding the immobilizer.2. Electronic Immobilizers Installed as Original Equipment but Not Certified to CMVSS 114Vehicles equipped with such systems will require confirmation of the presence of that system at the time of the RIV inspection. They arelisted as admissible with a special annotation [EIS] regarding the immobilizer. Demonstration of the presence of an electronicimmobilizer can be done through one of the following means:- Presentation of the completed vehicle purchase agreement showing the vehicle identification number and indicating the presenceof an immobilizer- Presentation of the vehicle window sticker (Monroney label) showing the vehicle identification number and indicating the presenceof an immobilizer- A letter from the manufacturer showing the vehicle identification number and indicating the presence of an immobilizer.- Other type of information present on the vehicle or on the ignition key allowing the positive identification of such a system.3. No Immobilizer on the VehicleThese vehicles will need to be fitted with an immobilization system that conforms to National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98,entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems: Electronic Immobilization (May 1998), published by the Underwriters'Laboratories of Canada, before being presented for registration under the laws of a province. They are listed as admissible with aspecial annotation [EIS] regarding the immobilizer.Importers should be aware of the following points before purchasing a vehicle in the United States:- There is no guarantee that an aftermarket immobilizer system can be fitted to the vehicle,- Some manufacturers have indicated that the installation of an aftermarket immobilizer system may affect the vehicle warranty,- Some manufacturers have indicated that the installation of an aftermarket immobilizer system may affect the performanceof certain safety equipment on the vehicle,- Certified installers of CAN/ULC-S338-98 aftermarket immobilizer systems may not be available in your local area.- The modifications may be expensiveREVISED 2007/12/24SUBJECT TO REVISION WITHOUT NOTIFICATIONE & O. E.Transport Canada does not endorse any brand of electronic immobilizer systems or installers. More information on immobilizers andinstallers can be obtained by contacting the Vehicle Security Installation Bureau (VSIB) (http://www.vsib.ca/index.html) or the InsuranceBureau of Canada (http://ibc.ca/). Other organizations may also be able to supply information.

[exeunt]

Unfortunatelly just hit a road block with my Rogue, luckily 5 minutes before wireing the money. Just got a call from manager at Ann Arbor, saying that they cannot sell me the car without charging Michigen state tax of 6%, even though sales rep told me he would meet me at the border with the car. I am so pissed at the moment. Waiting to hear from original sales rep, refunding my deposit should not be a problem according to his manager, but I am stuck without a car. Got to call back other dealers.I guess I started celebrating a bit too quickly.

I was wondering how you were going to do that, as my friend is purchasing from Michigan and he's stuck paying the sales tax. Buy from New York and you don't need to pay the tax. In fact, the dealership I went to didn't even charge the tax, so there's no issues trying to recover it.

[lozen13]

Is the Rogur manufactured after sept 1 st inadmissable? Or is there a little asterick. Not worth the hastle in my opinion. Check as some dealers will lower prices

[exeunt]

Unless things have significantly changed, there was no contest on the price differences between Canadian and US dealers. Every Canadian dealer I spoke with wouldn't budge from MSRP. The US dealer I bought from not only gave me the US price, but $1000 off of MSRP as well. Ended up buying at just over $24k fully loaded (without leather).

Granted, I didn't have to go through the immobilizer issues because I was lucky enough to get a pre-September version, but I think I would still go through it to save $10k.

[Jazzy]

Thank you exeunt for your comments. I think that will give me a good idea.For the immobilizer I think it's a none issue, it shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks again.

Frenchy.

[odessa70]

The other issue is the S FWD version has the eco-rebate eligibility. If you purchase it in the States that gets forfieted. I beleive you recieve $1500.

[Indiana Jones]

Odessa, is your Rogue by any chance manufactured after Sep/01/2007?

[Cristen]

The other issue is the S FWD version has the eco-rebate eligibility. If you purchase it in the States that gets forfieted. I beleive you recieve $1500.

Its $1000. I'm sending in my form for it this week.

[bababui]

My new Rogue is finally here!I drove it home from Sarnia border crossing last night, and let me tell you I am happy! I drives like a charm, knock knock Got a recall letter from my dealer but Riv refused it saying I need a letter from Nissan head office, how did you guys get your recall letters?Also, guy at Canadian Tire said he cannot install DRL's cause the car is too new, where did you get yours installed?

Just a few more hurdles to cross!

[bababui]

Just to clear some confusion regarding the immobilizer, US Rogue has one installed, it is a Nissan Vehicle Immobilizer, and it says so on the sticker which should be enough to convince the CT staff.Keep my fingers crossed!

[exeunt]

Got my recall notice from my dealer, signed by the service manager of the dealership. They're fairly vague about that whole issue. They say that they have the right to only accept manufacturer-based letters, but my dealership based one was good enough. Make sure your dealership letter has the Nissan logo on it.

My dealership suprised me with the DRL already installed when I arrived. Its got my Xenon lights on all the time, which I'm not sure if I like or not, but its up to code anyway. I may try to change it to the foglights instead sooner or later.

If anything, I would guess that a Nissan dealership would be able to do it.

[bababui]

Thanks exeunt,riv instructed me on second call to get recall printout from my dealer instead of just letter claiming to recall. I got that and faxed it to them. After 30 minutes I called and they said they will decide within 72 hours, but it only took them 5 minutes to reject the original letter this morning. Well that at least gives me enough time to install DRL, CT guy pointed me to Nissan dealerships in the area, and I called 4 of them, one would not do it for me (angry because I bought in US), second asked for $500, third didn't have it in stock and fourth wants to do it for $275. I also call start auto electric and they would do it as well but could not give me the price (between $150 and 250). I am thinking to go the safer route and get it done at the dealership...

Thanks for your help

Got my recall notice from my dealer, signed by the service manager of the dealership. They're fairly vague about that whole issue. They say that they have the right to only accept manufacturer-based letters, but my dealership based one was good enough. Make sure your dealership letter has the Nissan logo on it.

My dealership suprised me with the DRL already installed when I arrived. Its got my Xenon lights on all the time, which I'm not sure if I like or not, but its up to code anyway. I may try to change it to the foglights instead sooner or later.

If anything, I would guess that a Nissan dealership would be able to do it.

[Jazzy]

I have a question. What is the big deal with having the Xenon lights as your DRL? Here's a research about Xenon lights. Please give me some inputs. Thanks

Frenchy.

http://www.madsci.org/posts/ar....html

[exeunt]

Well if the Xenon lights really do last the length of the car, then I have no problem with it. Xenon lights are generally more expensive, so if I need to replace the bulbs because they've been running more often, then I'd rather have to replace the foglights.

BTW, the nissan dealership in buffalo charged me around $125 for the DRL. As far as I know, its just a rewiring job.

[Jazzy]

Hi exeunt, I check the life time of Xenon light bulbs and the lifetime is 3200 hrs. I think you shouldn't have any problem with your DRL. With my calculation you should be good for at lease 144,000 miles and maybe more. I think you odds are pretty good.

Frenchy

[lozen13]

Bababui I asked the dealer I bought my Rogue of in Vegas to request the recall letter from Nissan USA. They took care of that for me. Maybe you could use mind and just cut and paste the VIN? I would call the US dealer first and see if they can get it

[bababui]

My Rogue is finally plated!!!I took it for CT inspection today (it was a joke, guy asked me if it has immobilizer and then to licencing office to get the plates and pay pst. Everything went really smooth, I just need to attach the plates now and that's it. Dealer's recall printout was fine, I also got recall letter from Nissan USA, both were quick and happy to provide recall letters.Big thanks to everyone on this forum, specially to those who shared all the great info. I ended up saving more than 8K! Enjoying my car partially thanks to this forum, carswithoutborders, redflagdeals forum and other good people who fought immobilizer issue.

Please pm me if you need any of the details of my import story (dealer info, prices, so on)

[RogueLVR]

I'm getting ready to buy a Rogue in the US. Is anyone clear on how to ensure my warranty is valid in Canada?

[exeunt]

Yes, very clear. Your warranty will not be valid in the US unless you purchase a Rogue that has been pre-owned for at least 6 months.

[RogueLVR]

Can I not just register it in the US for 6 months before registering it in Canada?