Thinking of getting nitrous for my sr. Good or bad?

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So I'm coming up with all the funds needed to finish my car in the next few months. To finish my setup I want to do the following:

Upgrade the turbine to a Gt35r w/ bigger injectors. LSDand a roll cage

Was thinking of putting nitrous in my car. Good idea or bad on an SR? I have a built bottom end w/ stock pistons. I was only thinking like a 50 or 75 shot.


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I don't see why nitrous would ever be a bad idea. Safe and reliable hp if done right... why not?

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I say go for it. Just do it RIGHT!


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leesredgt wrote:I say go for it. Just do it RIGHT!
do a wet shot.. stay away from dry shots.

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Just Stay Away From The Asians With Teh Uzis!

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Not many people dry shoot 50 or 75. A wetshot seems like the only choice for a little juice.. I don't like N20, but its safe as long as its done right with the correct tune and safety devices. My tuner runs a 500HP dryshot on his car making over 900 to the wheels and its safe all day (at the track).

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Got a buddy who Put a 100 shot on his completly Stock single hammer slammer. **** was funny its like VTEC when he sprays.He needed a new clutch though.


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Dittoz7 wrote:Just Stay Away From The Asians With Teh Uzis!

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kornmanz wrote:I have a built bottom end w/ stock pistons.
Did everyone else miss this??

What is 'built' then? Everything else? Cause you skipped over the like weakest part of the SR bottom end...

I'm confused.

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i saw that too and was hoping he meant stock cr pistons.... Hopefully because who goes through the woes of a bottom end only to use factory cast pistons.

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I wouldnt really call the pistion the weakest part, the whole stock bottom end can support up to 500+whp

But maybe he meant RE-built??

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Stock pistons are a huge crapshoot on sr's i toasted ring lands running a whole lot less turbo then a 35r with no spray. If you have stock pistons ide say even that 35r is going to be able to max out the bottom end. Now if your using the spray for spool with a nitrous express progressive control, ide say go for it, just do a wet shot to be safe. There is an article somewhere on the internet about someone using a nitrous spool on a sr20.

Btw he is using a new set of stock pistons with eagle rods.....

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Its kind of funny u ask this question theres not alot of information on sr's running juice on any of the forums.Juice is great. Run a wet shot from company like nitrous proflow, NX and NOS all make great wet kits. The reason i recomend wet is so you dont run into any problems leaning out. You can just sit there and tune you AFRs with your wideband by just rejetting you fuel. Nitrous and turbo cars make a great couple just ruuning a 35 shot you will gain 45 to 50 FT pounds of torque. It will put a lot more muscle in you power band were you need it the most in its mid and low end. So if your running lets say a 35r with a .82 exaust side. And your doing a 45 roll. You could by a window switch and spray a 50 shot from 5000 rpm and have it shut down 7000 rpm and let the the turbo do its thing up top. It would help you a **** load spooling the 35R . This is a great read on spray and SR's. http://www.importtuner.com/fea....html

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Going for a wet shot. Thinking of going with a zex kit.

This is my setup:

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Mistaken wrote:Stock pistons are a huge crapshoot on sr's i toasted ring lands running a whole lot less turbo then a 35r with no spray.
Sounds like a Tuning error or someone in Japan was beating the **** out of that engine before you got it,Like I said the Stock SR bottom had been know to hold up to 500+whp

Hese a Vid of a Stock SR Engine only bolt ons and and some JWT Cams with a GT2871R
Mistaken wrote: If you have stock pistons ide say even that 35r is going to be able to max out the bottom end.
Of Course seeing that the 35r is capable of 600hp and the stock bottom end can only holds 500hp
Mistaken wrote:Btw he is using a new set of stock pistons with eagle rods.....
Thats kinda a weird set up why upgrade rods and not Pistons?

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I did not build this engine.

The guy I bought this car off of is named Dino Crnkik. Or something like that. He's a douchenozzle. He did stupid **** to this car. I'm trying to basically re-build it and finish it with a large student loan I'm getting.

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put forged pistons in it and run a 125 or 150 shot

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the piston rings on a sr take a **** above 375 hp..

maybe you should come over to the usa.. and try out one of ours/yours sr..

it might be diffrent over in japan land.. but i highly highly doubt it.

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kornmanz wrote: re-build it and finish it with a large student loan I'm getting.
FTL

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LeroyBrown wrote: FTL
What?
xX RB Xx wrote:the piston rings on a sr take a **** above 375 hp..

maybe you should come over to the usa.. and try out one of ours/yours sr..

it might be diffrent over in japan land.. but i highly highly doubt it.
I am in the USA dude. ?

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kornmanz wrote:
What? The student loan.. i was jk. what is the interest rate on that.

I am in the USA dude. ?
That guy thinks new mexico is Mexico....

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^alot of people do lol.

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what is the interest rate on that student loan?

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He's talking to the guy in Japan defending SR pistons..

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xX RB Xx wrote:the piston rings on a sr take a **** above 375 hp..
well tell that to guy in the vid that i posted who put down 400whp on his stock pistons.
xX RB Xx wrote:maybe you should come over to the usa.. and try out one of ours/yours sr.. it might be diffrent over in japan land.. but i highly highly doubt it.
Your joking right? where the hell do you think you get your SR engines from?The US never produced an SR20DET. All your SR20DET's come from here in Japan.

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Just because that guy put down 400whp on stock pistons does not mean every SR can. I mean I understand what you're saying, don't get me wrong. But I've read multiple times about SR ringland failure, etc.

A local guy here has the record for stock KA bottom end at like 535whp or something like that. That doesn't mean all KA's are now magically good for up to those numbers. I mean he blew up like eleventy motors just getting to there. And then he blew up the record motor and has now built one.

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Clawhammer wrote:Just because that guy put down 400whp on stock pistons does not mean every SR can. I mean I understand what you're saying, don't get me wrong. But I've read multiple times about SR ringland failure, etc..
I have never heard of this, I've been working on SR's for over 5 years and never heard of an SR Internal failure under 500 hp unless the car was poorly taken car of and inproperly tuned, Now RB25's thats a differnt story
Clawhammer wrote:A local guy here has the record for stock KA bottom end at like 535whp or something like that. That doesn't mean all KA's are now magically good for up to those numbers. I mean he blew up like eleventy motors just getting to there. And then he blew up the record motor and has now built one.
well that was just a freak of nature KA...oh i guess not ppl slap on GT2871R's and run 400-450whp on Stock Bottom end SR's all the time

when ppl are looking for 500+ these ppl go ahead a build it to with stand that. Like me, Mine will hold 700+ whp but I only need 400 cuz thats enough for drifting for me.

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please dont put in nitro


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