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Get the SRT-10, because then you'll make me feel good about MY gas mileage.


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Dano wrote:Get the SRT-10, because then you'll make me feel good about MY gas mileage.
Hahaha, I would really love to get the SRT-10, it starts out with the most power. The sound of that Viper motor is just awesome. My next idea would be a Chevy SS or doing a LS swap on a Colorado, which would be bad! I don't know how that would work here in CA though.

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srt-10

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8 mpg

have fun!

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maplyjesse wrote:srt-10

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8 mpg

have fun!
In the the city, yes. I have a 14 mile round trip to and from work with barely a couple of stops and yes, I will have fun.

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It'll be pricey.... but how about you get a Titan and pop a CORR offroad truck motor in it, like Forsbergs doin in his drift car. 800hp of Nissan awesome.

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How much?

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I'm open to feasible ideas with lots of reliable power. It has to have a back seat though.

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What about a Trailblazer SS?

AWD, LS motor, pure beast.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:What about a Trailblazer SS?

AWD, LS motor, pure beast.
I need a bed. The Trailblazer SS is a bad ride though. I was thinking about the SSS but have not found one I would want yet. Diesel would be bad as well but way too expensive for what I want.

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So here's your requirements?

- Lots of power- Reliability- Seats 4- Rides nice- Has a bed.- Not deisel

I don't know if there's anything out there that meets everyone of those.

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Yeah I know, but I think its now between the SRT 10 and the SSS. I'm thinking about keeping my Focus to help with gas. With the low miles I'll be putting on the truck I shouldn't have a problem.

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Ok let me help you with that diesel is too expensive argument...

Go out get yourself a '99 -01 F350 with the end model 7.3L Powerstroke (I say F350 because I'm not entirely sure if the F250 came with the dual fuel tanks. Add a Bullydog chip, intake, exhaust and get some gauges ( a necessary evil with modded diesels) and once all of that is done (roughly $2500) go get a Propane injection kit and a CNG injection kit, these will bump up your power significantly and put you in the 25 - 30 MPG range (if not more) add a water/methanol kit and get even more power and more MPG's.

Now you're making stupid amounts of power and ungodly amounts of torque (read as you'll be able to rip buildings off the foundations while setting the pavement on fire). Now the reason why you want the dual fuel tanks. Go get a Bio-Diesel kit (I think they are $1800) and make your own fuel at home for literally pennies on the dollar. Not only will you get awesome MPG that would make even a Hybrid cry, but you'll be paying roughly $1.75 a gallon which is significantly less than what you would be paying for gas.

Oh and not only will you be CA legal, but they may actually give you money at the end of the year.

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Oh and one other thing, you can make more power with a Bio-diesel Powerstroke For a 1/4 of the price it would cost you for a SRT-10, plus your insurance won't be stupid high, and you can do more with it than you'll ever be able to do with an SRT-10.

Whenever I hear SRT-10 I automatically think that in order to own one you need to by oil stock just to afford owning it.

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Why 99-01? Is it for the 7.3? You have me interested.
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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:Ok let me help you with that diesel is too expensive argument...

Go out get yourself a '99 -01 F350 with the end model 7.3L Powerstroke (I say F350 because I'm not entirely sure if the F250 came with the dual fuel tanks. Add a Bullydog chip, intake, exhaust and get some gauges ( a necessary evil with modded diesels) and once all of that is done (roughly $2500) go get a Propane injection kit and a CNG injection kit, these will bump up your power significantly and put you in the 25 - 30 MPG range (if not more) add a water/methanol kit and get even more power and more MPG's.

Now you're making stupid amounts of power and ungodly amounts of torque (read as you'll be able to rip buildings off the foundations while setting the pavement on fire). Now the reason why you want the dual fuel tanks. Go get a Bio-Diesel kit (I think they are $1800) and make your own fuel at home for literally pennies on the dollar. Not only will you get awesome MPG that would make even a Hybrid cry, but you'll be paying roughly $1.75 a gallon which is significantly less than what you would be paying for gas.

Oh and not only will you be CA legal, but they may actually give you money at the end of the year.
Winner winner chicken dinner.

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I say the 99-01 because of the Ford Super duty pickups that have the 7.3L Powerstroke they are the better looking. 99 was the first year of the more aggressive body style that the Ford SuperDuty pickups have now. You can get a newer one, just stay away from the 02-05 as those model years had a ton of problems with the 6.0L Powerstrokes.

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Okay, thanks for the advise on the diesel. I am most definitely looking into it. But, does anyone have anything bad to say about the SRT-10? Some of you have put your personal opinions about the truck, and thats okay, but thats not what I asked and not what I'm looking for. I am looking for facts that will help in the decision making process. I know it makes horrible gas milage and I know it's not functional and I really don't care. I'm not a hippie tree hugger. I just want pure facts about whether or not it's a quality truck.

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rb30dett wrote: I need a bed. The Trailblazer SS is a bad ride though. I was thinking about the SSS but have not found one I would want yet. Diesel would be bad as well but way too expensive for what I want.
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rb30dett wrote:Okay, thanks for the advise on the diesel. I am most definitely looking into it. But, does anyone have anything bad to say about the SRT-10? Some of you have put your personal opinions about the truck, and thats okay, but thats not what I asked and not what I'm looking for. I am looking for facts that will help in the decision making process. I know it makes horrible gas milage and I know it's not functional and I really don't care. I'm not a hippie tree hugger. I just want pure facts about whether or not it's a quality truck.
Contradiction at it's best, no offense, but you can't say that you don't care about forking out tons of money on Premium gas (what is it in Cali, like a little over $4 a gallon right now) but you don't want to fork out money on Diesel, which would actually be cheaper, because you think it would be more expensive.

Trust me, for $12K you can get a very nice 99 F350 King Ranch, even if you just add the chip, intake and exhaust you'll still get better gas mileage than the SRT 10 would even if you daily'd it, and you'll be making more power and torque than the SRT 10 for 1/4 of the price, you will wind up saving even more on the insurance, have 5x the functionality,

The reason why you're not getting any love for the SRT 10 is because honestly it's not worth it on so many levels...

Reliabilty = FAILGas Mileage = FailLooks = FailSafety = FailUseability = Failinsurance costs = FailUpkeep Price = Fail

I'm sorry, but even the guys I know in person who have owned one said it's just not worth the price of the gas, the insurance, and the upkeep. Yeah it's fun to own for the first month, but once that wears off and you get your first insurance and gas card bill the wife will not only kill you but pretty much force you to get rid of it and then you'll be stuck with a minivan.

Trust me, go get a diesel, they're a far site cheaper, easy to mod, make more power and torque than God, insurance won't kill you, you'll be able to actually use it, and if you go to Bio-Diesel you'll have better gas mileage than any of those brand new Hybrids that are out there, you'll get a bunch of tax credits come tax time,and with Cali going hardcore green you'll probably get money for being bio-diesel from the state at the end of each year.

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When I was talking about Diesel being more expensive, I was talking about for what I wanted. Lets not get into that though. You have actually opened up new avenues to discuss. I'm am semi ignorant to diesel. Thanks for the info, I wasnt trying to justify getting the 10. Im just trying to pro and con it. What do you think about the 5.9 Cummins?

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the 5.9L Cummins is a monster. The 12V is so easy to make power with cheaply that it's crazy. I 00 fuel plate, intake and straight pipe exhaust (or stacks) with a propane injection system and an upgraded trans will put most stock sports cars to shame, but with the 00 fuel plate you'll take a big hit with fuel economy and you'll smoke up the whole neighborhood. The 24V can make even more power with increased fuel economy but you'll need to start getting into chips and multi-tune computers to get there which means more money.

Also the 5.9L will practically live forever, most live longer than the trucks they are installed in. The weakest spot of pretty much every diesel truck are the transmissions. The exception of that are the newer Chevy/GMC Duramax powered super duties that have the immortal Allison transmission.

Honestly the best diesel truck is a hybrid of sorts. Get a newer F250/350, put in a 5.9L Cummins and an Allison trans, add mods. The newer F series are more comfortable inside, have a better suspension, and look better overall, plus the build quality is better. The 5.9L makes a ton of power and will last longer than anything out there even with mods, they are cake to work on, take to mods like no other, and sound heavenly (the 7.3 sounds heavenly too but has more of a big block V8 sound to it) and the Allison trans is absolutely bulletproof, it's akin to the bulletproof trans found in the Mk IV Supra's in that it can take massive amounts of power and torque, will shrug off practically any abuse you throw at it (which is why it's the preferred trans to most pro Tractor Pull trucks) and seeing as it's made by Allison it has the same build quality as the trans found in big rigs (which mean it will last practically forever.

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do you know if a vg30de will fit in a 99 altima

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You've got me very interested man. I'm looking into this right now.

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slywaz wrote:do you know if a vg30de will fit in a 99 altima
Yes it will fit, but you might want to put these questions in the correct thread to get better info and so you wont piss anyone off. I'm not mad, since this is my thread, but I would take this to the Altima or Hybrid thread.

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Go to youtube and just watch any of the diesel truck vids. There are a handful of built twin turbo diesels that make well over 900HP and enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth with each burnout.

Diesels make a glorious noise, the turbo spool is heavenly, make tons of power, are easy and relatively cheap to mod, can put shame to most cars at the drag strip on Sunday and go tow a forest to the lumber mill Mon-Fri and do it all over again come the weekend. Plus if you get a 4x4 you can go offroad, and drive through a pond without having to worry about the hydrolocking your engine. They are relatively cheap to maintain, will last well into the million mile range, and even if neglected will run longer than most anything on the market. Tune ups are easy and cheap. Fuel might be pricey but in the end a years worth of diesel will not only be cheaper but also last longer than a years worth of gas.

My only thing is that if you do get a diesel and you do mod it you need to drive it more than just 5000 a year, diesels actually run better when they are run longer (which is why truck drivers let their trucks idle overnight at truck stops) short 5 minute runs to store and home or a 10 minute drive to work will actually do more harm than good even if you get on it for that short trip.

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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:Go to youtube and just watch any of the diesel truck vids. There are a handful of built twin turbo diesels that make well over 900HP and enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth with each burnout.

Diesels make a glorious noise, the turbo spool is heavenly, make tons of power, are easy and relatively cheap to mod, can put shame to most cars at the drag strip on Sunday and go tow a forest to the lumber mill Mon-Fri and do it all over again come the weekend. Plus if you get a 4x4 you can go offroad, and drive through a pond without having to worry about the hydrolocking your engine. They are relatively cheap to maintain, will last well into the million mile range, and even if neglected will run longer than most anything on the market. Tune ups are easy and cheap. Fuel might be pricey but in the end a years worth of diesel will not only be cheaper but also last longer than a years worth of gas.

My only thing is that if you do get a diesel and you do mod it you need to drive it more than just 5000 a year, diesels actually run better when they are run longer (which is why truck drivers let their trucks idle overnight at truck stops) short 5 minute runs to store and home or a 10 minute drive to work will actually do more harm than good even if you get on it for that short trip.
Thanks a lot for all of the info. This is what I was talking about, an actual contribution! Do you know any good forums for the Cummins or Powerstoke?

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There are a ton of good diesel forums out there. Diesel Bombers is a good place to start as they have sub forums for each different diesel out there, plus they will give you a ton of info on how to go about modding your newly acquired diesel. The thing with diesel guys is that they have their own lingo that you'll need to learn, so if you go into a diesel forum that focus's on the modding side of things you can get lost very quickly and wind up more confused than you were when you started.

If you change this thread title to I'm thinking about getting a diesel truck can anyone help you'll get a lot more info. There are a ton of diesel guys on here, Repoman being one of the most knowledgeable that comes first to mind. I learned what i know from pouring over various internet sites for like 3 months. Personally I would love to get my hands on a Powerstroke diesel, but being that I live in NE Philly I don't really have anywhere to keep it, my car, and the GF's car, and I'm not getting rid of the S14 so I can have a truck.

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What's the maximum amount of miles I should look for in a diesel? I know they run forever, but I just don't wanna go pick up just any truck.

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hakosuka?

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Sup Juany? Yeah, I wish. A truck is the only option right now.


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