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My girlfriend is really thinking about buying a '10 SL with 34k miles. I know the trans has issues so that kind of worries me. Even with Nissan replacing them under warranty I've seen where people had more than one need to be replaced. With the 100k warranty, say it goes out at 90k, will there be another 100k warranty or the remaining 10k?

I own a 06 sentra spec v. Bought it brand new and had the engine replaced before it left the lot. Had a 100k warranty on it and I'm at 128k miles and had no problems. Had no problems with anything really so that does make me feel better about her buying a Nissan. She plans to keep it for as long as she can... like 200k miles like her previous car.


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Also, when she started it up on the lot it had an idle issue. It would jump from 1k to 2k. Not sure if its because it was sitting too long or if it needs to have the idle relearned. It didn't do it any time after that one time

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AntSpecV wrote:Also, when she started it up on the lot it had an idle issue. It would jump from 1k to 2k. Not sure if its because it was sitting too long or if it needs to have the idle relearned. It didn't do it any time after that one time
1st i would like to welcome you to the board. Nico is here to help, and You are apart of a great group now with tons of knowledge and experience.

2nd, your lucky it stated at all! even new cars sit on the lot for months sometimes not getting moved. nissan along with every other manufacturer have TSB(technical service bulletins
    ) that require cars to be moved every 30days at least 3/4qt tire rotation. i wouldnt even worry about this engine. this engine is BULLET PROOF.

    the transmission on the other hand, it can get iffy. you have a massive warranty and its there to be used in case you have issues.
    just think, get her an American brand and she will have 10x's more issues than with her nissan. nothing is perfect; especially used - but its certainly something to think about.

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    Thanks for the welcome and reply.

    She was also thinking about a liberty but with worse gas mileage and not as reliable she's sticking with the rogue. Not to be rude or anything what about my question about the warranty? if the trans goes out at 90k would she get another 100k warranty or have the remaining 10k from the first tran

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    AntSpecV wrote:Thanks for the welcome and reply.

    She was also thinking about a liberty but with worse gas mileage and not as reliable she's sticking with the rogue. Not to be rude or anything what about my question about the warranty? if the trans goes out at 90k would she get another 100k warranty or have the remaining 10k from the first tran
    unfortunately, you will only have the remaining warranty only to work with. new parts wont extend the time.

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    ImStricken wrote:...the transmission on the other hand, it can get iffy. you have a massive warranty and its there to be used in case you have issues.
    Just think, get her an American brand and she will have 10x's more issues than with her nissan. nothing is perfect; especially used - but its certainly something to think about.
    Yep! I stubbornly had to learn the hard way that American cars can't compare in quality to most any other makers (save maybe British, LOL). I've had transmission problems with Fords and Saturn (GM).

    She's considering a Chrysler product even though their stuff has a worse reputation for transmission issues? I'd stick with the Rogue and at least have it checked out by a second shop, just for piece of mind. The CVT problems IMO weren't as prevelent with the 2010 MY. Is the seller offering any warranty other than what's left over from Nissan?

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    Rogue One wrote:
    ImStricken wrote:...the transmission on the other hand, it can get iffy. you have a massive warranty and its there to be used in case you have issues.
    Just think, get her an American brand and she will have 10x's more issues than with her nissan. nothing is perfect; especially used - but its certainly something to think about.
    Yep! I stubbornly had to learn the hard way that American cars can't compare in quality to most any other makers
    Iv driven ford crown victoria interceptors, ford expeditions, ford e350 prisoner vans, for 6+years and they were all junk. check engine lights and constant misfire stuttering issues around 45,000miles and on.
    My father has a transportation business and his Lincolns = same problems as all the other ford.
    My girl had a dodge ram daytona purchased brand new - electrical mayhem since day one, drive shaft blew at 60,000miles, etc.

    i would NOT EVER consider an american made car. dont take me as unpatriotic, i served PROUDLY in the US Army, i just dont believe in blindly blowing my hard earned money into inferior products just because they are "American made"(they say american made, but many ford models are built in either mexico, or canada)

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    Is 18,900 a good price for a 10 SL with 34k miles? Price was 21k but we got the nissan dealer to go down. Other SLs in that price range had almost twice the miles. This one was a lease car. From what i was told if its a lease they have to do schedule maintence on it. Only thing it doesnt have that she wanted was the paddle shifters

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    AntSpecV wrote:Is 18,900 a good price for a 10 SL with 34k miles? Price was 21k but we got the nissan dealer to go down. Other SLs in that price range had almost twice the miles. This one was a lease car. From what i was told if its a lease they have to do schedule maintence on it. Only thing it doesnt have that she wanted was the paddle shifters
    we are talking about leather, sun-roof, bose audio, all wheel drive, xenon headlights, etc? if so that is a good price.
    just make sure no damage anywhere.
    NADA value of a clean retail is $22,100 (with all the above mentioned options).
    http://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2010/Nis ... -Equipment

    what i want you to keep in mind, is that dealers have a hard time now keeping the Rogue in stock - THEY SELL OUT QUICKLY! This is a car thats very high in demand, including on the auctions(if not more on the auctions). Its got everything people need without the V6 that wastes fuel. People now a days are trading in their highlanders, cherokee's, and other V6 cars for the rogue & honda crv.

    if this is any help to you: 4 months ago, i picked up a 2008 rogue SL(leather/bose/paddle shifters, AWD, etc) with 23,000miles for 18,000 + 2 new tires + 1 free oil change.

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    I got the car fax and theres nothing on there about any accidents. I also looked at all the body parts to make sure everything looked straight and not bigger gaps on one side versus the other. Theres not even a scratch on it... it does not have leather(she doesnt want leather since we have 3 pitbulls lol) its got awd, sun roof, bose. Not sure about hids or not.

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    http://usedcars.about.com/od/avoidingpr ... d-Cars.htm
    Alliance Inspection Management (AiM) which reviews thousands of off-lease vehicles monthly, reported in October 2011 it has seen an estimated 30 percent increase since January 2011 in the number of vehicles with potential odometer tampering.

    Carfax doesn't always offer all the facts. I bought a used car from dealership that seemed in good condition. Got the Carfax and found the previous owner was a car rental company in NY, but that's all it told me. Turns out the dealership had used it as a lot vehicle for employee use. Unfortuantely for me, the dealer failed to disclose the fact that the vehicle had been wrecked. It apparently happened on the lot and most likely was never reported, just fixed in-house. As there was no police report or insurance claim, it obviously wouldn't be on the Carfax report.

    Check ou this link http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2009/01/15 ... arfax.html

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    Rogue one: ill 2nd that!
    i had a 1999 nissan altima and i rear-ended someone in traffic when she stalled out, out of no where. it was beyond minor but my airbags for some reason were triggered, and blew out. my bumper was not even scratched! the woman's civic in front of me had some scuffs that were eventually repainted. SHE INSISTED ON THE POLICE TO BE CALLED. i was uniform at the time and didnt even try to explain anything to her that the damage appeared to be under $500 so we dont have to make a police report. anyway, she called the police, and a report was filed. insurance was notified, etc.

    i checked the car-fax about 2years later when i sold my altima to the car to the junkyard AND IT STATED NO ACCIDENTS, NO AIRBAG DEPLOYMENT = GUARANTEED! so i learned not to trust that BS carfax crap.

    what i look for is logs of mileage to make sure its not been tampered with. i recently test drove a 2009 murano and it had mileage logs almost exactly every 3,000 miles. sometimes the person would come in for a light-bulb out, or tire pressure sensor in between the 3,000 miles oil changes - thats a car i cant trust via carfax. BUT TAKING A CAR THAT WAS PURCHASED, AND THEN APPEARS AT 15,000 AND THEN ONLY REAPPEARS AT 32,000 IS WAAAAAY TO RISKY.

    back to the topic, if it doesnt have leather - you better take off at least another 800-1000 from that price
    if it doesnt have bose/xenon = take off another $200-$500

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    I agree and think this is a significant issue. The marketing has convinced us that Carfax will tell us the entire history of a used vehicle and allow you to purchase with confidence, but there is a lot of very bad stuff that can happen to car that goes unreported and just recieves a bandaid fix to hide the ugly truth. And of course you still should have maintenance documentation, that's one of the big mistakes many people make - not asking for full maintenance records. I'm always surprised how few used sellers, private AND dealerships, cannot produce the maintenance history of a car to at least show that the miniumum oil changes were done. They want you to spend $20, $30+ thousand dollars on a vehicle and to not even have the basic maintenance documentaion is absolutely insane to me, but they'll always brush it off and tell you "we've checked it over in detail and everything checks out". In addition, the maintenance logs also document mileage so you can be sure the odometer hasn't been tampered with.

    Regarding the CVT on the 2010 Rogue: All makes and models will have a small number of part failures, the transmission included. But, when you have some bad luck and your conventional transmission dies under warranty I don't think you'd write off all conventional transmission's forever - you just get it fixed or rebuilt and move on. The Rogue transmission had quite a few issues with early 2008 models, significantly less with 2009 and far below average number of troubles after that.

    I strongly disagree with the statement "I know the Rogue trans has issues". The Rogue transmission component in particular has above-average reliability from reputable sources such as Edmonds, and from my favorite source TrueDelta.com which compiles real world reliablity and repair info from real owners and it ranks the Rogue as "above average".

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "buy the car". That's your choice and there are a lot of things to consider, in particular there are several solid competitors in the Rogue's class to consider. I'm just saying that if you hear about a Rogue transmission having trouble a) It's extremely rare, and you run the same risk no matter what car you buy and more so with makes such as Chrylser/Jeep and b) If a CVT transmission fails it's not because of the fact that it is a CVT, it doesn't mean CVT's are a poor design.

    Good luck with your purchase!


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