They'll put an SR into anything...even a Dodge Dakota!

[dareo]

Check out this truck with a freakin clean S14 blacktop swap!

Ok...maybe thats really going into my 89 240sx. i'm so excited to finally have an engine for a car i haven't driven in 8 months.
Modified by dareo at 4:45 AM 5/27/2005

[GripR]

congrats on the motor. i suggest you do a rebuild before you drop it in your car.

[912.0turbo]

congrats on the motor. i suggest you do a rebuild before you drop it in your car.

Why? I think he will be fine with the motor just the way it is as long as the oil pan is clean and there are no metal pieces/shavings floating around anywhere.

[dareo]

yeah, this engine is in top condition. I'm going to upgrade the oil pan and clean the strainer. Rebuilding it, especially since i've never rebuilt an engine before, could end up worse.

[GripR]

well i'm just suggesting it because most jdm motors have been abused. shops that sell them gurantee start up and then a week or a month or so on goes by and the motor takes a dump. i personally wouldn't drop in any used motor without a rebuild even a oe rebuild.

[Blown240sx]

Umm thats not true because my redtop was in top condition even with 40K on it. The guy who had it before kept top notch stuff in it and the clutch was almost brand new.

I guess it depends on the driver. But I know any car guy wouldnt abuse an engine.

[biglipzit]

what do u call japanese D1 drivers? I think they are car guys too and they abuse engines like no one else can... And especially if it is a sr20 out of a sylvia. You dont own a sylvia in japan and not drift it at all lol it just never seems right...

[Blown240sx]

So your telling me they just blow the motor up and dont care? I dont think so. Just like a racer in US they take care of thier **** also. Not all sr20 motors come out of D1 drivers cars...

Perfect example my engine has great compression and has no problems at all and its been in the car a month and been put through some hell at times racing. It idles like a kitten.

[dareo]

Well i pulled the trans and clutch tonight. The clutch looks almost perfect. Turning the engine by hand, it feels like it has great compression. I'm in love with my S14 SR20DET.

[GripR]

If you knew the original owner of the motor, I guess you wouldn't have to worry about it because you knew how it was treated. Buying a used motor from a shop or whatever, you don't know how that motor was treated in Japan. I mean 40k miles is a lot in Japan. Previous owner probably beat on it like crazy before they had to take it out. They know the American market is hungry for it and willing to pay. Some places just clean up the motor and a customer would think wow that's a clean motor I’ll take that one. For my car I want things to be in working order so that I don't have to worry about anything.

Of course we all take care of our motors, but if you’re like me, when I’m on the track its balls out. Cars are meant to be driven. I’ve seen guys with fully built motors and they just baby it on the track. I have no respect for them. It’s like why put all that work into the motor and not use it.
Modified by GripR at 6:49 PM 5/19/2005

[yellow_jacket]

Seeing as how you have that motor sitting on the oil pan, you should definetely drop the pan and knock it out a little. Even if you don't think it looks very dented. The SR's oil pickup is very, very close to the pan and even a little dent will starve the head or turbo.

[VitaminT]

Good luck with your motor man.

I don't know what to think about people that come in your thead and say to rebuild it. I guess there are good motors and bad motors, but my thinking is at least put it in and get it running. Then if it needs a rebuild due to low compression or something the motor is THAT hard to pull and take care of. Thats just like those people that say to install a complete gasket kit on your motor before you put it in.

Oh well congrats on your purchase again dude.

[RedRum240]

dude bliglipzityou still drive your mom's minivan and are mad because he can afford an engine before you can afford the Vtec Stickers for your moms 1985 chrystler van seriously. he probably bought it from a reputable source. I can count over 23 people who have all boughgt Sr20's and never had a bit of trouble. the only reason they ever crap out is because faggots like you dont follow the break in period crank up the boost on the stock SMIC and blow teh **** out of your engine because your fuel system cant handle all the air that is being cramed into the cylinders shut up and go home stop knocking on other people when you donte ven own a 240sx. god. forum lurchers I swear. grats on your sr20 dareo they are nice engines hope the swap goes well for you. dont worrya bout blowing it jsut change fluids for the first 6 months every 1-2 months to be extra sure and check the engine daily for the first month or so and youl get it right back to being nissan quality.

[dareo]

I've got a new high capacity alumanum oil pan for it, even though the pan on the engine is perfect. Its hardly even scratched, and not dented in the slightest. One thing about buying locally, you can really check out the engine before you finally choose one. My goals for this engine/240 are complete reliability, through excellent cooling, fluids, and trust in the engine exactly as Nissan built it. Then when i break it on the track or in the canyons i will rebuild it. But not before i personally have the chance to break it.

[dareo]

I hear you RedRum240 about amatuers blowing up their SR20s. Luckily i wasn't rich enough to buy an engineswap 2 years ago when i got the car, cause i didn't know 1/10th of what i do now. Not making very much money, and building other cars on the side has left me with a lot of time to learn.

I've got an RSPL intercooler kit and a Koyo radiator for it. I'm overengineering every aspect of cooling, i'm even gonna do a PS cooler. This engine is gonna last, at least it should.

[GripR]

dude bliglipzityou still drive your mom's minivan and are mad because he can afford an engine before you can afford the Vtec Stickers for your moms 1985 chrystler van seriously. he probably bought it from a reputable source. I can count over 23 people who have all boughgt Sr20's and never had a bit of trouble. the only reason they ever crap out is because faggots like you dont follow the break in period crank up the boost on the stock SMIC and blow teh **** out of your engine because your fuel system cant handle all the air that is being cramed into the cylinders shut up and go home stop knocking on other people when you donte ven own a 240sx. god. forum lurchers I swear. grats on your sr20 dareo they are nice engines hope the swap goes well for you. dont worrya bout blowing it jsut change fluids for the first 6 months every 1-2 months to be extra sure and check the engine daily for the first month or so and youl get it right back to being nissan quality.

Dude there is no need for the name calling man. Let’s not be like those other 240 forums.

Everyone has their own opinion, I just like security. That’s why I always suggest rebuilding. I believe you'll learn a lot more about your motor. Like if your crank has serial stamp of 111111, I forget how many digits but if your crank has only 1's it was the best crank shaft Nissan made for the sr20. It’s interesting to learn stuff like that. But then again if you just drop in a motor and there are problems you'll also learn trouble shooting.

He never mentioned the shop he bought it from, so we don't know who his reputable source is.

Hey dareo, I want apologize it seems my suggestion of a rebuild has stirred up some anger from the other members. Do what you want to do. I originally should have just posted, "cool man have fun" like I wanted too. Peace out.

[912.0turbo]

Dude there is no need for the name calling man. Let’s not be like those other 240 forums.

Everyone has their own opinion, I just like security. That’s why I always suggest rebuilding. I believe you'll learn a lot more about your motor. Like if your crank has serial stamp of 111111, I forget how many digits but if your crank has only 1's it was the best crank shaft Nissan made for the sr20. It’s interesting to learn stuff like that. But then again if you just drop in a motor and there are problems you'll also learn trouble shooting.

He never mentioned the shop he bought it from, so we don't know who his reputable source is.

Hey dareo, I want apologize it seems my suggestion of a rebuild has stirred up some anger from the other members. Do what you want to do. I originally should have just posted, "cool man have fun" like I wanted too. Peace out.

Red Rum, I agree with GripR. Although, I said he shouldnt rebuild it like Grip suggested I wasnt trying to argue with him, just asking why. If he feels it is safer to rebuild thats ok because I should have done that with mine. My motor is no longer running right now. I got it from a crappy source and the motor was in really bad condition. So name calling isnt going to help. Sometimes it is good to rebuild them but usually you can tell if the motor is good or not with a compression and leakdown test. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Thanks GripR for suggesting why.

[dareo]

Rebuilding a JDM engine before putting it in is a great idea. Especially nowadays when whats left of the redtops are usually poor condition. My engine i just believe to be in pretty good shape so i'm not going to bother.

[Henry G]

Especially nowadays when whats left of the redtops are usually poor condition.

Where do you get this information? Just curious. I think part of the reason it seems like there are more ****ty redtops is because there are more people selling them. Alot of compaines will only buy the cheapest ****.

I say put the motor in and see how it runs. I've got two redtops and I plan to install one, drive it around for a few months, and swap in the second block. I'll check compression on both and then pick one and learn how to rebuild a motor.

[dareo]

OKay, the redtop sr20 came in cars built in the early 90s, and for years they've been sold to the entire world. People in japan handpick the best engines before they buy them and put em in a crate to send out. THeres been consistent demand for the redtop for a long time. There is also not that great of a supply of great condition engines. Most engines sold today are from cars recently scrapped, usually with over 60,000 miles. Demand for a newer engine like the S14 SR20DET is much lower, so the supply should be a lot better. The supply of SR20s is finite, and the best condition engines are imported first.

[got2b240]

verry powerfull statement you make dareo.

I was thinking about that earlier today and my cousin and I are wondering if there will ever be a deficit of JDM SR20DET motors?

[dareo]

Natural progression. How many FJ20s do you see for sale now? Almost none, but thats okay cause we have SR20s. In a few years, redtops will become very scarce. But there will be more S14 and S15 engines. There will be Z33 JDM swaps sold. Newer engines will eventually take over.

[got2b240]

true thats a good point

[dareo]

Update Pic: Freshly machined flywheel installed, and a 3" downpipe the UPS guy just brought test fitted to the engine. Almost have the engine ready to drop in, my wiring should be done in 2 weeks, and i'l be breaking in the ACT streetstrip clutch.

[got2b240]

sweeet

[dareo]

Yeah funny story, you see that big metal ring that goes between the engine and trans? I forgot to put that on before the flywheel and clutch. So i gotta take it all off again. Worst thing is we did the same thing on a G20 swap a few months ago.

[saintsinner]

do0d how does you sr sound with an n1 exhaust...i really want one but everybody is like "its too loud the cops are gonna mess with you "but i dont care as long as it sounds sick and the power gain is there...