The Z finally takes her place....

Post by **574-240sx** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:04 am

Looking good so far Greg.

Post by **AZhitman** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:23 pm

OK, a little more progress when I can squeeze it in:

Swapped in some rebuilt axles (they're pretty simple to rebuild, and kinda fun to assemble)...

Running a beefier mustache bar with some nice poly bushings to replace the rubber ones:

Next up, I'll bolt in the rear subframe assemblies and start on the front!

Post by **evildky** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:07 am

so looks like you're gonna swap in an R200, guessing this means CLSD? what springs and struts are you using? guessing the typical 280, manima rear disk swap, and fronts are toyota 4 pistons on stock rotors? I gotta say if you plan on using the brakes much the vented upgrade will minimize the brake fade

Post by **AZhitman** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:32 am

Springs are (I believe) Koni, and the struts are custom-built. Note the shortened overall height and relocated lower control arm mounting point...

Good eye on the disc swap - Maxima rears, Toyota fronts, and I'll be losing these rotors in favor of some nice Stop-Tech units.

Post by **evildky** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:11 am

I don't think koni makes springs? do you mean you think the struts are revavled stockers? the housings appear to be completely stock, and yeah I see the bump steer spacer I've never run them but they are quite popular

Post by **DadZun** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:58 pm

Mettler wrote:*cough*VH45DE*cough*

More coughs. I love the S30, I love the VH41/45. But what would I know - frikken forum noob. ? The purist route works fine too, great thread.

And please, no more velarossa...
Modified by papariccardo at 9:44 PM 11/30/2007

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:54 am

Yeah, the Velarossa thing is just too gay for me.

Here's my "inspiration", and aside from the flares, huge forged wheels and stripes, this is what she'll look like when finished:

I'll also be rocking chrome fender mirrors and some tinted old-school OEM headlight covers.

Post by **BMAR240SX** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:56 am

I cant wait to get my 240z

Post by **nsrZ32** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:10 am

AZhitman wrote:I'll also be rocking chrome fender mirrors and some tinted old-school OEM headlight covers.

Good call on the fender mirrors

Just out of curiousity...why chrome as opposed to black?

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:46 am

First ones I found.

Actually, I want to retain as much chrome as I can. Jason is welding up the bumpers to remove the carriage bolts, overriders and bumperettes, so they'll be smooth and "blade-like"... Much like the JDM model.

Post by **FoxFire** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:08 am

another picture similar to the one you posted

Post by **AZhitman** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:41 pm

That car makes me drool.

Easily one of the hottest Nissan / Datsun cars ever built. Period.

Post by **jdshift** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:42 pm

FoxFire wrote:another picture similar to the one you posted

.oh thats hot

Post by **dots300z** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:01 pm

Absolutely the sweetest looking datsun I ever saw

Post by **qat727** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:01 pm

I just spotted a restored 280Z while driving down the road today... I'd have one if I could afford it. Too bad he was wanting $6900 for it. One of these days, I'll have one.

Post by **NSR_s30** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:09 pm

AZhitman wrote:That car makes me drool.

Easily one of the hottest Nissan / Datsun cars ever built. Period.

Post by **rb240z** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:03 pm

Hey thats my 240 up there Makes me happy to hear my work as inspirational, good luck with your build. Parts look good.

Post by **AZhitman** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:08 pm

Mark, I own 7 Datsun / Nissan / Infiniti cars, and YOURS is my desktop on both PC's, my laptop, and my cell phone.

I'm honored that you're among us here on the forums. Looking forward to meeting you someday.

Post by **stopatnothing** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:00 am

FoxFire wrote:another picture similar to the one you posted

Good hell, that is one of the most beautiful, elegant, and powerful looking cars I've ever seen. I'm sure you get compliments all the time, but if there's one car that deserves to be eye-humped, it is without a doubt your car. If it were mine, I'd LoJack that thing if you havent already. Absolutely gorgeous, man.

Post by **FoxFire** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:05 am

Mark your car is the hottest car ever produced.

I WILL build a 240z exactly like yours.

ButSuper dark metallic Grey and light Grey strips and 19" Charcoal w/chrome lip Axis Penta rims on ContiSportContact 2 Vmax sport 275/30 19 tires. Built vg30det. HKS 6spd sequential

oh yes i have plans

to marks carand az hitman when you complete it

more pictures pls markemail to [email protected] if you dont want to host them yourself

are there any custom body panelsare those just generic catalog fender flares or custom doneand how much boost you running?
Modified by FoxFire at 1:21 PM 12/5/2007

Post by **evildky** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:24 pm

looks like "bubble flares" I believe Blackdragone sells them, but kind looks like he widened them a bit more to cover the CCW's, with coil overs and a 275 wide tire I think the standard bubble flare will cover

the hks 6 speed is a way to spend a lot of money and not gain any performance, and I'm not a big fan f the VG30DE's the single cam is so much easier to work on, and has about as much potential

Post by **Desert Rat** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:26 am

I've got an LS1, but you can't have it

It's in my camaro.

I'd like to come by and check out your project sometime. I'm sure it'll make me miss my old 240. I already miss the two 83 turbo cars I had, but the Camaro is much quicker.

Post by **FoxFire** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:10 am

i have an 86 vg30et complete swap for my s13...

if the single cam engine can hold 550whp and 7500rpm, with cams turbo pistons and quality rebuild only, for 10k miles ill be happy and go with the single

i know the dual cams are stronger, newer, more tunable, and have vvt on some

hks trans is for strength and to change up the gear ratios i want 60mph in first, 90 in second 120 in third 160in forth 190 in fifth 220mph top speed

newer z06 transaxle setup is appealing but it would require extensive modification

Post by **mtcookson** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:28 am

Not trying to go against your plans or anything... but it would take an incredible amount of body work to get an S30 to aerodynamically even get close to those speeds... but, if you're planning on doing that more power to you. I would love to see what kind of designs you come up with for that as aero mods for the Z (as far as actually heavily improving on them) are somewhat new.

Tranny wise, a Z32 5-speed would get you near those numbers with a Q45 differential (3.538) and if you want more than that will offer you can go a step up to the Armada differential, which is an R230 like the Z32 TT but with even larger axles and output flanges. That is available in 3.36 and 2.94.

Say you have your 275-30-19 tires and a 7,500 rpm redline your gear limited top speed would be:3.538 diff: 214 mph3.36 diff: 225 mph2.94 diff: 257 mph

Speed in each gear:3.538 diff:1st - 50 mph2nd - 84 mph3rd - 123 mph4th - 161 mph5th - 214 mph

3.36 diff:1st - 53 mph2nd - 88 mph3rd - 130 mph4th - 169 mph5th - 225 mph

2.94 diff:1st - 60 mph2nd - 101 mph3rd - 149 mph4th - 193 mph5th - 257 mph

For what you're wanting though I'd probably recommend the Cobra T56. It has a .63 6th gear whereas the Viper/'Vette/Camaro 6th is .50.

With a 7,500 rpm redline, the Cobra T56, your tire choice (275-30-19), and the Q diff (3.538) your gearing would be like so:1st - 60 mph2nd - 90 mph3rd - 124 mph4th - 161 mph5th - 201 mph6th - 255 mph

That gets you exactly to your goals for much, much less than the HKS unit would cost. Just some ideas.

Also, since you mentioned the Corvette transaxle I just wanted to throw in how cool that thing is. Its really a standard T56 like you'll find on the Cobra, Viper, Camaro, etc. however the tail section was just replaced with a differential. The differential bolts right to the rear of the transmission turning it into a transaxle. Its pretty awesome... I want to use one sometime in a custom built car, mid-engined car.

Post by **FoxFire** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:01 pm

Holy Information.thank you

i like that 3.36 diff

did a search of the drag coefficient

showing .465 Cd for the S30 .38 Cd for a Bonneville s30

Tony D wrote:

"The Z has a .465 Cd, a 62 VW Microbus has a .44 Cd, and a 4'x8' sheet of plywood has a .48 Cd. Those numbers are FACTS. There are FEW vehicles on the road as unaerodynamic as an S30 Z-Car. Most American Muscle Iron has better drag characteristics! Hence their top speeds being far higher with little additions of horsepower. The lower the drag number, the faster you can go with less HP. There is a configuration of the S30 that yields a .38Cd, and this is theconfiguration where we run at Bonneville. This is how we go 173 with about the same power as John Coffee in his stock (or nearly stock) bodied S30 without allowable aids."

http://www.zcar.com/forums/read/1/590020/590064

beauty comes at a cost i guessi was thinking like .34 at mostshes worse then a brick

i think it needs a front air splitter and a wangan style diffuser wing
Modified by FoxFire at 2:41 PM 12/6/2007

Post by **mtcookson** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:54 pm

Forgot to add, if you are interested in the VG30ET you can use the Z32 5-speed by using a 89-91 Maxima flywheel with either a Maxima or 84-86 300ZX Turbo on non clutch. Use the Z32 starter and throwout bearing and it works beautifully. I'm currently using that setup in my M30 and have had a great time with it. You can easily get a Fidanza flywheel as well as they made them for those year Maxima's (using one on the M).

Post by **stopatnothing** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:59 pm

Sweet kite, BTW.

Post by **evildky** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:50 am

wow this has really gotten off topic, guys if you wanna talk VG poweed S30 or drag coefficients, please start another thread, I love these kinds of discussions but we've kinda jacked gregs thread

abd yeah that is a supersweet kite!

Post by **RagingPanda** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:14 pm

AZhitman wrote:

Please tell me what he did to the car externally! It looks so nice. I must know what aftermarket aero stuffs he put on

Post by **slipstream_pnoy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:37 pm

Oh wow i been waiting for this to happen... keep up the good work.

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