The two faces of the housing issue

[audtatious]

Barney Frank recently threw the Republicans under the bus by blaming them for pressing forth the agenda to increase home ownership. Well, the below link has that video plus a video from 2005 where he stated they were pressing for more home ownership and there was no "housing bubble".

Standard "press your agenda and deny everything" approach when things go wrong...

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=4926

[szh]

I am no longer surprised .... this is so typical of Barney Frank and others in Congress that disgust is simply too mild a word for how I feel!

Z

[DJ Raijin]

Barney Frank, what a line of manure comes forth from that whale's mouth! It's everyone's fault but his.

Go blubber your nonsense elsewhere pal, the American people are not buying it.

[audtatious]

Somebody is still buying it.......

[WDRacing]

I hate the blame game. Our Gov as a whole, that means both POS parties, failed. Utterly and totally failed...

[audtatious]

That is the truth but not what is being presented by those in charge.

[DJ Raijin]

Massachusetts keeps putting Barney Frank back in office. Shame on them.

The USA needs new breath breathed into it as a whole, I agree. But that's NOT going to happen. Ever. Not without a complete overhaul. And I'm sure all these power hungry people are just gonna up and give up their sweet spots having their pockets lined with gold by lobbyists and special interest groups and being able to make decisions as they please without foresight.

Only the people can change what this country is going to become. But the real question is, will they stand up when the time comes? Or will we have become apathetic and lethargic and beaten down?

[JustinStrife]

I hate the blame game. Our Gov as a whole, that means both POS parties, failed. Utterly and totally failed...

I wanted to vote every single member of Congress out of office in November, but they didn't give me that option. I did vote against the incumbents, even though in the past I've been almost party line Republican in my votes. It's high time we started fresh.

[audtatious]

80% of those in office needs to leave. There should be term limitations for Senate/House. Having people in for 50-bazillion years is bullcrap

[szh]

There should be term limitations for Senate/House.

Absolutely. It can be kept reasonably high to avoid "continuous freshman" problem. But, no more than four terms or 10 years, whichever comes first.

That will allow for better government!

Z

[themadscientist]

I would not be for term limits. If the constituency truly wanted to retain a legislator, they should not be denied that right. I WOULD like to see all the advantages incumbency brings eliminated. Level the playing field for challengers. http://www.cusdi.org/reelection.htm

[JustinStrife]

How about getting rid of their pensions and give them part time salary? Being a Politician was NEVER meant to be a career.

[themadscientist]

How about make it like jury duty.Go to the mailbox, "crap, I have to be a senator for a year"!

[szh]

How about make it like jury duty.Go to the mailbox, "crap, I have to be a senator for a year"!

Great idea!!

I remember reading a [S&F, of course] story once, that the person who was elected to the office of President was chosen by "being right" for the job by a computer. Using pre-determined criterion. And, the job was not fun, so the person had to be dragged into office, kicking and screaming ... but it was just like jury duty.

Like you say, we should have the same requirement for Senators and Congresspeople.

Z

[szh]

I would not be for term limits. If the constituency truly wanted to retain a legislator, they should not be denied that right.

Kinda falls along the lines of "if the people are too stupid to elect the right person, then they deserve what they get" theory?

Z

[bobotech]

How the hell did anyone vote FOR Barney Frank? I swear that I don't know of anyone dumber than him.

Ugh.

[JustinStrife]

How the hell did anyone vote FOR Barney Frank? I swear that I don't know of anyone dumber than him.

Ugh.

He was chosen by 'The One', surely his intellect is so great we can't even comprehend it.

[HashiriyaS14]

80% of those in office needs to leave. There should be term limitations for Senate/House. Having people in for 50-bazillion years is bullcrap

For most purposes, I agree with you.

For foreign policy and a precious few domestic issues, I think there is some value to "career" legislators who have seen and done it all.

[szh]

For foreign policy and a precious few domestic issues, I think there is some value to "career" legislators who have seen and done it all.

Perhaps ... but sometimes, they get stuck in the same old school thinking that got them nowhere before.

Z

[HashiriyaS14]

Perhaps ... but sometimes, they get stuck in the same old school thinking that got them nowhere before.

Z

Also absolutely true. Both experience and inexperience have their inherent upsides and downsides. My preference for either one is entirely situational, I don't have any sort of governing ideology about it.