http://www.cincystreetscene.co...=2340
all i can say is wow, i am impressed. wonder how long those things will run.
Rubin
the Sky is falling "thread about neon srt-4"
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J-Spec Tuner wrote:kewl, i actually like the SRT-4, hard to say no to cheap performance.
you are absolutely correct about cheap performance, anyone would be stupid to say for 21k you can get 230hp and 240torque. this years model even comes with lsd.
hopefully our guru's at nissan will wake up and smell the coffee.
I am just glad I am into the older car, lol "s14's"
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The Mini Cooper S makes 163bhp and 155 lb ft of torque. If you add the John Cooper Works package for $5K more you get 200bhp and 177 ft lbs of torque.TurboKA37 wrote:yea, im not sure about the 1600 lbs. but i thought the supercharged type S version made 200 or more hp?
A mostly base Mini Cooper S with the JCW package would sticker around $25K.
According to Edmunds, the Cooper S has a curb weight of 2678 lb.
If I'm not mistaken, the SRT-4 makes 230 hp and 250 ft lbs of torque *at the wheels*. I'm not sure what kind of numbers you would see with a 2004 and the Mopar Stage 1 upgrade, but I'm sure there would be a little increase in power (not to mention a shift in the power band and features like holding boost during WOT shifts).
Edmunds lists a curb weight of 2900 lbs for the SRT-4.
Can't really comment on the transmission issues, but I can say that I've been for a ride in an '03 SRT-4, and even when it wasn't broken in the thing was surprisingly quick.
I have to wonder how many of the transmission issues are the result of aggressive/inexperienced SRT-4 drivers. I notice that this is a first manual transmission car (or first car, even) for a lot of SRT-4 owners online. Many don't seem real familiar with how a manual transmission works.
The combination of inexperienced driver + gobs of power may be resulting in more than high insurance premiums for these vehicles. I would also question how many of these vehicles were abused at the dealership before the owner even put a single dollar down on the thing. I've noticed that many salespeople don't really seem to pay much attention to new car break-in procedures...they just want to impress prospective buyers.
BadMojo wrote:The Mini Cooper S makes 163bhp and 155 lb ft of torque. If you add the John Cooper Works package for $5K more you get 200bhp and 177 ft lbs of torque.
A mostly base Mini Cooper S with the JCW package would sticker around $25K.
According to Edmunds, the Cooper S has a curb weight of 2678 lb.
If I'm not mistaken, the SRT-4 makes 230 hp and 250 ft lbs of torque *at the wheels*. I'm not sure what kind of numbers you would see with a 2004 and the Mopar Stage 1 upgrade, but I'm sure there would be a little increase in power (not to mention a shift in the power band and features like holding boost during WOT shifts).
Edmunds lists a curb weight of 2900 lbs for the SRT-4.
Can't really comment on the transmission issues, but I can say that I've been for a ride in an '03 SRT-4, and even when it wasn't broken in the thing was surprisingly quick.
I have to wonder how many of the transmission issues are the result of aggressive/inexperienced SRT-4 drivers. I notice that this is a first manual transmission car (or first car, even) for a lot of SRT-4 owners online. Many don't seem real familiar with how a manual transmission works.
The combination of inexperienced driver + gobs of power may be resulting in more than high insurance premiums for these vehicles. I would also question how many of these vehicles were abused at the dealership before the owner even put a single dollar down on the thing. I've noticed that many salespeople don't really seem to pay much attention to new car break-in procedures...they just want to impress prospective buyers.
Edit: The 2003 SRT-4 with the Stage 1 upgrade made 240 hp/260 ft lbs of torque to the wheels according to SCC.
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As I recall, the SRT-4 puts up some pretty good slalom numbers as well as skid pad numbers. Neons also seem to do quite well in SCCA events, so I don't think the handling of this car is going to be a big issue. The Quaife LSD on the '04 models is a huge addition too.Spectre wrote:Yeah so, I haven't posted on here in months. Just typing that for people who don't know me yet. Anywho, on to my comment about the SRT-4: It may be fast, but if it does come with a 0 degree camber then it probably can't take corners all too well.
My biggest issues with the car are purely aesthetic. Personally, I'm curious to see how the car looks with the Mopar coilovers installed. The rake on the SRT-4 is kinda funky. Between the big wing and the car's rear end way up in the air, I must admit it looks odd.
Lower the car, get the rear end down a bit and swap on a smaller Neon SXT wing and I'd be set!
Once this car is on the Daimler-Chrysler affiliates program, I'm gonna be all over this thing. I can't resist for only ~20K.
Spectre wrote:I still question the reliability of a car that powerful for only $20k. It sucks seeing a Neon that's faster than my 240, oh well.
Sport Compact Car tore down the SRT-4s engine and had a nice little poke around. Aparently you have closed deck, piston oil squiters, beefy cast crank and con-rods, etc. According to Dave Coleman (my hero) it is one STOUT engine. The only major qualm is that the exhast hosuing on the turbo and the manifold are one cast piece, so modifying one requires the modification of the other.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb....neon/
As for the faster thing...I have a buddy with a 4 door Neon, VERY built engine (for nitrous) and plenty of goodies on the car. Imagaine being beaten by a 4 door econo box. Bastard moves to Japan in 3 months and has a R32 GT-R waiting for him:(
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