The last FN01R-C thread ever!!!

[rudee023]

Ok, searching for useful info on these wheels is like a stripper with one boob. Yeah, you are going to take a look but it's not really worth it. I can find millions and millions of posts contradicting each other going from site to site. Here is my question. It's been asked before, it will be asked again. Will 17x7 +35 in the 4 lug clear 30mm Z brakes?

I don't want people saying their "friend's" wheels cleared. I don't want people saying "they should clear". I don't want people saying to buy 8". Who has physically seen this setup with their own two eyes?!?

[C-Kwik]

Ask MAV1178 on Freshalloy. He works for 5Zigen and owns a 240sx. He will probably know.

[240SXedUp]

Quote »Ok, searching for useful info on these wheels is like a stripper with one boob. Yeah, you are going to take a look but it's not really worth it.[/quote] Haha wtf? Its going in the sig right above tenkawa's

[rudee023]

The answer...... No! According to Wayne ast Phase 2. Guess I'm gonna have to get 8's up front. Sweet!

[crzycav86]

Woah.. wait..

Why would 8's up front work.. but not 7's?

Brake clearance with wheels depends solely on the spoke design, so unless the two sizes have different spoke designs, both should either clear big brakes, or not clear them. Someone correct me if I'm missing something.

[C-Kwik]

Wrong, it depends on spoke design and the relative offset of the spoke to the hub. An 8 inch wide wheel with a 40 mm offset will put the spokes closer to the brakes than a 8 inch wide wheel with a 30 mm offset, even if the spoke design is the same. And many multi-piece wheels and some 1-piece wheels have different spoke offsets within the width of the wheel.

[crzycav86]

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The offset of the second wheel diagram is lower, even though its width is the same. I always thought that the offset between a certain wheel was changed by changing its mounting position on the rim, not by spacing out the mounting area of the rim. I'm not sure if I fully understand what you wrote though. Help out a n00b please.

[Nismo_Freak]

The spoke to rim mounting location will not change... hence you'll get this.

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17x9 +30________    \    /    |    \____/___

17x9 +10

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If it were to move you'd have to recreate the rim structure to handle the different load being position.

[C-Kwik]

It depends on the wheel. Most 1-piece wheels use the same spoke to outer edge clearance. So you end up with something more like:

+40

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+30

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There are a lot of different combinations. Even in multi-piece wheels, for the same size and offset, they may have a deep dish version and a high caliper version. The high caliper versions are made for cars with brake calipers that have outboard pistons. Usually only need the for the front though. A lot of cars with outboard pistons on rear calipers use a integrated drum brake so the rotor hat tends to be deep enough that the caliper sits far enough inboard not to worry about it.

[C-Kwik]

sorry for the strange looking diagram...it wouldn't come out right when I was saving it...

[Dori Dori]

Find a pick of a low offset Kosei K1. That'll make it really easy explain what you mean. I just tell people it's almost like having a built in spacer.

[crzycav86]

Thanks, I understand.

So can someone remind me again why spacers are bad? I don't see much of a difference here(assuming you use well-designed spacers).

[Dori Dori]

There isn't much of a difference. It's more stress on the hub.

[Nismo_Freak]

Thanks, I understand.

So can someone remind me again why spacers are bad? I don't see much of a difference here(assuming you use well-designed spacers).

Do a search, it's been discussed many times now.

[crzycav86]

Do a search, it's been discussed many times now.

Fair enough. At least I didn't start another thread asking about spacers....