the guinea pig's latest mod!

[chad1200]

OK! i'm all about squeezing every bit of HP out of these cars and here's my latest mod that anyony (preferably with a CAI) can do....here's the stock intake....

here's the removal....

here's how much MORE AIR the intake gets now....

here's my theory....the stock "cai" is VERY restrictive. not sure if any of you actually looked at the size of the intake. i did! very restrictive!

i know what you're all going to say.... "now it's pulling in hot air from the engine."

it's not! if you're drag racing the car, maybe. BUT, if you're driving the car regularly on the highway\city than this removal only helps! my car gets more air than ever beofre! look at the air intak after removal! the CAI mod was great but this mod makes it sound and perform better. think about it.... when you're actually driving the car the air sucked in by the intake is restricted by this small intake. by removing it the engine gets more air. I KNOW! it's supposedly "hotter" but if you're on the highway your engine is being cooled just by the airflow under the hood. if you're going 60 mph removing this part can only help. TRY IT! I LOVE IT!

thoughts....

BTW.... it's also weight removal

i took out my spare tire, too! have you ever lifted that thing?!?! it's HEAVY! take it out!
Modified by chad1200 at 6:52 PM 1/29/2008

[G_whizz]

LOL @ spare tire removal.. your hilarious Chad!!

Anyways, basically, you mine as well have installed the JWT popcharger instead of your Stillen, it's pretty much the exact same thing now.

+1 for you... stop in more often..stop lurking

[BrandAidDesignG35]

I'm considering the complete oposite...

I think we have diferent setups, but I would rather have cool air than hot air...

The piece you're reffering to is like 1/2 lb. maybe... I agree, there's the rediculous 52 chamers from the Wu-Tang clan stuffed up in the intake track, but that piece is sending air directly off the rad fan, straight into your intake,,, I'd keep it, but did you notice a nice increase in sound? I imagine

I was considering reinstalling it for reasons above. that is my 2 centz .........

[chad1200]

i knew someone intelegent would od object!

for the ones who didn't go the pop charger route and are looking for a little more O2 need to try this!

but it's not the exact same thing. the pop charger and stiilen intake block this extra air flow! i'm saying try it because you'll hear and feel the extra ponies (although minor).

this mod is an easy snap off\snap on mod! try it and give me your thoughts.

you've got nothing to lose other than a WIN!

[chad1200]

your 2 cents is worth nothing until you try it! like i said most of our driving will pull hot air OUT of the engine. you have to compare the amount of "cold air" to the amount of actual O2 going into the engine.

i've done it and i've seen a noticable increase in sound and HP!

try it! if i'm wrong, well, than i've earned my title "guinea pig."

if i'm right, than i've helped another G!

try it, then post!

[tollboothwilley]

This is funny

counter-intuitive to the design created by the pop charger!!

way to try out anything possible chad!!

[chad1200]

I KNOW, I KNOW!

JUST TRY IT! THEN YELL AT ME!

....or praise me! (like i'm used to!)

[pae9132]

I actually had my car setup like that before but I feel that it's getting more power with it on there since it isn't just a baffle. It's actually collecting air from the forward momentum and pushing it into the intake. JMO

[gwoods]

My spare tire has NEVER been to the race track...

Neither have my floor mats or anything in the glove box/trunk

Way to think outside the (air)box Chad!

[joe603]

My spare tire is out...but I have an MTX amp where it was. The subs don't help my time either...

[BrandAidDesignG35]

Actually Mine's off right now, I was looking into ways to increase my power / fuel economy, and re-installing the stock track would increase the cool air flow to the intake, directly off the rad... which, in theory, would bring denser cooler air into the engine, = HP + !

keep in mind I'm using the F5 Competition setup from fujita, it is a straight long ram air intake, without any heat shield or housing like the JWT or stillens. THAT's WHY I WANT MINE BACK ON!!!

2 more pennies

[rn79870]

My spare tire has NEVER been to the race track...

Neither have my floor mats or anything in the glove box/trunk

Way to think outside the (air)box Chad!

Hum, if you let 15 pounds of air out of each tire, you cold save 60 pounds right?

[toddnos]

I did something similar, but went another step, and cut the back of my OEM airbox off with my dremmel. It has a KNN filter too...definatley made it louder...

[toddnos]

I did something similar, but went another step, and cut the back of my OEM airbox off with my dremmel. It has a KNN filter too...definatley made it louder...

to the OP:you need to clean your engine bay...its dirtier than a mofo.

[TJMaxx98]

to the OP:you need to clean your engine bay...its dirtier than a mofo.

That filter could use some cleaning too...it's a pain to remove and put back in too...darn Stillen!!

[BigWill]

Hum, if you let 15 pounds of air out of each tire, you cold save 60 pounds right?

!!

Yeah... and if you seal the cabin and create a vacuum, you save another 14.7 pounds, (for those at sea level anyway). lol

[BigWill]

...it's a pain to remove and put back in too...darn Stillen!!

Which is another selling point for the JWT!

[smockers83]

I know I'm coming in here and raining on your parade, but... That front piece you took off--that directs more air to the filter, like pae said, because the air coming in between the hood and the grille in the center there is all directed to the filter. Also that air coming in is cool compared to with that off and sucking in hotter air from the engine. Look at the piece and you'll notice the gap on the forward edge.

but it's not the exact same thing. the pop charger and stiilen intake block this extra air flow! i'm saying try it because you'll hear and feel the extra ponies (although minor).

Can't speak for the Stillen, but the JWT POP Charger doesn't block that hole. But looking at your pictures, it looks like the Stillen hooks up to that, too.

And taking the spare tire out does actually work. It's quite a weight difference. I remember I took mine out last spring and I noticed the back end would want to swing out more and the wheels would spin more, so depending on what you're going for this may be good.

[smockers83]

Another good reason to take the spare out--more trunk space--gives you another compartment, fits a smaller suitcase. That's why I took mine out originally because I ran out of room packing for a trip one day.

[toddnos]

i find removing the spare to be not the smartest thing...i would hate to have a lighter car stuck on the side of the rode, because i took my spare out...lol

[risingson]

i remember reading people taking this one part out.. i think it might have been under the intake somewhere.. my engine is stock, so if you guys can help me take the unnecessary parts thatd be -ill look at this one, i dont know what i want to do with it yet, but i know there was one part that was completely a tosser.

and i want to get a new filter for the stock intake, what do i need? ill try to find it searching.. i dont want to spend money on my intake yet, but i read the filter will give you a bump in hp.

[smockers83]

The part you're talking about is one that's right below the airbox. As for the filter, you could just get a K&N drop-in filter.

i find removing the spare to be not the smartest thing...i would hate to have a lighter car stuck on the side of the rode, because i took my spare out...lol

That's why we have complimentary roadside service, at least it was given to me.

[toddnos]

That's why we have complimentary roadside service, at least it was given to me.

do you think they carry spares to all cars? ....your mindset is difficult to digest. a fourty pound spare dosent shed enough weight to make it worthwhile to be immobilized when you run over a road hazard. your g isnt a race car. kids with honda civics do the same thing...but this is only one mans opinion.

[smockers83]

It was just a response....but no, they don't carry spares, they would tow you and you'd get a new tire without having to drive around with an ugly wheel. That was my logic for the response. Do I do it, no.

A lot of people do it, especially those who drift their cars. It does shed quite a bit of weight though. The sedan is about 100 lbs lighter than the coupe, and it'll beat the coupe almost all the time (with equal drivers), not saying the wheel is 100 lbs, but weight is weight.
Modified by smockers83 at 11:32 AM 2/2/2008

[toddnos]

It was just a response....but no, they don't carry spares, they would tow you and you'd get a new tire without having to drive around with an ugly wheel. That was my logic for the response. Do I do it, no.

A lot of people do it, especially those who drift their cars. It does shed quite a bit of weight though. The sedan is about 100 lbs lighter than the coupe, and it'll beat the coupe almost all the time (with equal drivers), not saying the wheel is 100 lbs, but weight is weight.

Modified by smockers83 at 11:32 AM 2/2/2008

the sedan is lighter than the coupe? wow..thats cool.

[TeflonG35]

Just watch popping those fasteners off. They break easily.

[sal7506]

hi all ...it's all about square inches....just cause it may sound louder ,doesn't mean that it is faster.or that it is getting more air,especially if the air is hot...i have delt with this on yachts...most engineers have figured out a given area has a given volume of air...problem is people add things,the builders add things all of which take up that volume,and the engines esentially starve for air at wot,some create so much of a vaccum that you can barely open the door...hence the square inches part...you could run a tube straight out of the manifold and the engine will only be able to consume the diameter of the throttle body at any given time...assuming that your "air pump"can expell it.if u measure the opening of the slot ,and the opening of the air box u will see there is no diffrence.btw does anyone have a oem grille to sell for my 03 sedan?

[smockers83]

The point was that both weight reductions are very minimal relative to the car...the weight reduction from a coupe to its corresponding sedan is ~3% across the board, and its only about 100 lbs--compared to 2 tons, relatively small. 40 lbs translates into about a 1% decrease. At 3%, there have been noticeable differences, so who's to say that 1% can't provide some sort of difference. Just because someone takes their spare out doesn't make them a ricer or a Honda-like person...in races, which some people do here, its all about weight and power.