The Energy NON-Crisis

[mtcookson]

This is very, very interesting. The guy definitely presents a very compelling story and information about what he's talking about. Its a bit slow and a bit long but definitely worth the time watching it.

It definitely sickens me hearing what he has to say about all of this... be sure to post up your thoughts on it!

1 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated2 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated3 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated4 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated5 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated6 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated7 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated8 of 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

[WDRacing]

Watched the first 3...will watch the rest later if I have time.

In short...ugly ugly ugly. How can we bring about change here? Surely we can bring this to enough peoples attention that there will be no choice but admit their total corruption.

I'm all for people being indicted or impeached..both.

[96Qowner]

Dude, that's WAY 2 much 2 watch, LOL!

Just kidding. I'm watching the first one now - got curious about who Lindsey Williams is. Here's a bio:

Lindsey Williams, who has been an ordained Baptist minister for 28 years, went to Alaska in 1971 as a missionary. The Transalaska oil pipeline began its construction phase in 1974, and because of Mr. Williams' love for his country and concern for the spiritual welfare of the "pipeliners," he volunteered to serve as Chaplain on the pipeline, with the subsequent full support of the Alyeska Pipeline Company.

Because of the executive status accorded to him as Chaplain, he was given access to the information that is documented in this book.After numerous public speaking engagements in the western states, certain government officials and concerned individuals urged Mr. Williams to put into print what he saw and heard, stating that they felt this information was vital to national security. Mr. Williams firmly believes that whoever controls energy controls the economy. Thus, The Energy Non-Crisis.

Because of the outstanding public response that has been generated by this book, Lindsey Williams is in great demand for speaking engagements, radio, and TV shows.

http://www.survivalcenter.com/lwarticle.html

Not terribly impressive, but I'll watch 'em anyway (eventually). Thanks for posting it.

I also see that Amazon.com has the book, copyright 1980.

[telcoman]

About 1 minute was all I could take.

INHMO I think he is FOS

"Lindsey Williams, who has been an ordained Baptist minister for 28 years, went to Alaska in 1971 as a missionary. The Transalaska oil pipeline began its construction phase in 1974, and because of Mr. Williams' love for his country and concern for the spiritual welfare of the "pipeliners," he volunteered to serve as Chaplain on the pipeline, with the subsequent full support of the Alyeska Pipeline Company."

So he got Sarah Palin to pray for a pipeline?

Outstanding!

Oil is traded on world markets subject to the law of supply and demand.

He should stick to his chosen field and not preach about what he knows little about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...versy

Again, just my opinion.

I think his brother was the one telling everyone the world was going to end the other day when CERN did a particle test in Switzerland?

Telcoman


Modified by telcoman at 2:00 PM 9/12/2008

[mtcookson]

If you only watched for a minute then you likely didn't get anywhere close to where he has some pretty compelling proof of it all... and I'm not sure I understand why you have a problem with him... he's trying to point out major corruption. What's wrong with that?

Just curious... are you thinking he's trying to compel people to get them to get oil from Alaska? If so, that's not really the case at all. Actually, he gives some pretty damning reasons why we actually can't get oil from Alaska. If you're against "drilling" in Alaska you might actually kind of like the video.

[WDRacing]

It mentions Alaska, which means Palin, which means anti Obama which means Telco hates it...simple really. You just have to understand insanity and how it's mind works.

[S13FX]

**** Alaska what about the hole thats being drilled in my bank account hehe.

[audtatious]

**** Alaska what about the hole thats being drilled in my bank account hehe.

Trade your car in on a Schwinn

[mtcookson]

If I were Alaska, I'd secede from the union and start producing oil and making a ton of money.

[telcoman]

If you only watched for a minute then you likely didn't get anywhere close to where he has some pretty compelling proof of it all... and I'm not sure I understand why you have a problem with him... he's trying to point out major corruption. What's wrong with that?

Just curious... are you thinking he's trying to compel people to get them to get oil from Alaska? If so, that's not really the case at all. Actually, he gives some pretty damning reasons why we actually can't get oil from Alaska. If you're against "drilling" in Alaska you might actually kind of like the video.

The reason I replied as I did is I find T Boone Pickens more credible in that we cannot drill our way out of our current level of consumption.We must reduce our oil consumption and it was quite clear that as prices rose to $5 a gallon consumption did in fact drop.

[audtatious]

What is constantly ignored by those who are against drilling is that those for drilling are NOT saying we don't work towards other means of energy. We simply want to ensure we can cover our own azzes in case countries we get oil from decide to either stop selling to us or just stop producing.

Change to other means won't come overnight and simply following through with allowing prices to rise in order to force lower consumption is insane talk as it hurts the population that can't afford it the most. Of course, if your whole plan is to force more people to require the Government to provide for them then you just keep it up. Eventually people are going to get even more pissed.

[telcoman]

What is constantly ignored by those who are against drilling is that those for drilling are NOT saying we don't work towards other means of energy. We simply want to ensure we can cover our own azzes in case countries we get oil from decide to either stop selling to us or just stop producing.

Matt

The countries currently selling to us need to keep selling or they don't eatIt is in their interest to try and control production & keep prices high

Eventually people are going to get even more pissed.

Pissed at who?

Perhaps the administration that has been in power for the past eight years and had control of congress for the past six years?

Of course, if your whole plan is to force more people to require the Government to provide for them then you just keep it up.

Isn't it a function of government to set energy policy?

If not who do you think should set United States energy policy?

When you allow lobbyists to strongly influence our energy policy as this present administration has done you end up with the present situation that we are presently in.

High oil consumption, high prices, automobile companies facing huge losses, loss of jobs, economy in a shambles, etc.

If you believe someone who supported GWB 95% of the time is going to change anything, there is a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in purchasing?

Telcoman

[audtatious]

Matt

The countries currently selling to us need to keep selling or they don't eatIt is in their interest to try and control production & keep prices high

No they don't. They can simply sell to other countries instead of us.

Pissed at who?

Gov as a whole

Perhaps the administration that has been in power for the past eight years and had control of congress for the past six years?

Blah blah blah

you need to fix your broken record.

Isn't it a function of government to set energy policy?

If not who do you think should set United States energy policy?

When you allow lobbyists to strongly influence our energy policy as this present administration has done you end up with the present situation that we are presently in.

Ah. It's the function of the gov to intentionally allow gas prices to go through the roof in order to force a means to their ends? In this case, the Democrats who are leading the Congress.

High oil consumption, high prices, automobile companies facing huge losses, loss of jobs, economy in a shambles, etc.

OMG!1!1! the world is falling down around us and it's all the fault of that one ******* in the white house!!!!!! The great Obamarama will save us from ourselves

Do you really believe the BS you spew? Looks like your fellow NJ residents may not hold your opinion as close to their breaking hearts since Obamas double digit lead is almost gone in your state.

[dusred]

The countries currently selling to us need to keep selling or they don't eatIt is in their interest to try and control production & keep prices high

What a stupid thing to say. It is not our responsibility to make sure other Countries have food on their tables. They don't just have food on their tables but they are living very richly off of the money Americans pay at the pump, and I don't give a **** if it is $11 a gallon in Europe. The point is that it could be less and it isn't because of OUR corrupt Government.

[WDRacing]

Fact, we aren't importing Alaskan oil...why?

Fact, we pay to much for Arabic oil...why?

Answer those questions...

[szh]

Fact, we aren't importing Alaskan oil...why?

Fact, we pay to much for Arabic oil...why?

Answer those questions...

Simple.

There are no environuts in the Middle East.

Z

[WDRacing]

Ahh...so we are supporting the subversion of the Arabic people by allowing them to destroy their land first...makes sense. Only the strong survive

Enviro freaks made DDT get banned...afterwards over 3 million people in 3rd world countries died of Malaria. Thank God we saved the Mosquito's...

[ishkabibble]

Enviro freaks made DDT get banned...afterwards over 3 million people in 3rd world countries died of Malaria. Thank God we saved the Mosquito's...

DDT is banned in the US, not 3rd world countries. Also, there is a cheap cure for malaria available (artemisinin) which is largely ignored by countries outside of China.

[audtatious]

The latest information that shows DDT is not a bad chemical to use is pretty much ignored as well.

[szh]

DDT is banned in the US, not 3rd world countries.

No, DDT is banned worldwide by the Stockholm Convention. However, they allow occasional limited use for disease control (i.e., for outbreaks, rather than general pesticide use).

As Wikipedia says: Co-signatories agree to outlaw nine of the "dirty dozen" chemicals, limit the use of DDT to malaria control, and curtail inadvertent production of dioxins and furans.

Z

[ishkabibble]

It is not banned for vector (e.g. mosquito) control. How does this equate to "limited, occasional use" in a reactive fashion? I'm not saying you are wrong, but you give no evidence of your claim.

The Wikipedia article you cite also reject's WD's claim outright, and discusses mosquito's resistance to DDT. Blaming 3M people's deaths on "enviro freaks" doesn't really seem to hold water IMO.

[szh]

It is not banned for vector (e.g. mosquito) control. How does this equate to "limited, occasional use" in a reactive fashion? I'm not saying you are wrong, but you give no evidence of your claim.

I quoted the Stockholm Convention info from Wikipedia ... they also make the same claim - look at the specific words "limit the use of DDT to malaria control".

Agreed that my "occasional limited use" comes from similar understanding ... I don't know for sure if I am right. But, I do know that some other countries have banned DDT for sure ... for example, I know for a fact that it is not available for use in Pakistan as a pesticide.

Z

[WDRacing]

Only cause you're in love with tree's

[ishkabibble]

[WDRacing]