I seem to have three major problems with my Versa, and I think they may be widespread. I have the mag grey SL with manual tran. and cov. pkg 1. Manual Transmission:The gears are very rough to shift in and out of and you hear a crappy noise everytime you shift. It also seems as if the engine is always revving when you go to shift like it is sticking. I took the car to my dealer and they were leary to dig into this problem until they had another manual tran versa to compare things against. So far I have been waiting 2 weeks... 2. Compresssor? Some part of the AC system kicks on a lot and outside the car it is embarrasingly noisy. I have problems hearing and being heard at drive thrus. To me it just makes the car sound like cheap junk, and after 3000 miles with my versa I am not as happy as I would like to be with it, because of these issues.3.That damn tire light comes on like once a week. I cant believe that my tires are having so much trouble that the thing has to come on all the damn time.
Those are the major issues I have. Mine also happens to pull to the left, and has wind noise at 55mph on the drivers side. My side mirror seems fine. The worst part for me is that the dealership I bought it at isn't doing jack to help me. Everytime I call they say wait until we get one in. The Nissan number wants you to take it to the dealer. They don't answer technical questions. I know some of you are loving your versas and I would like to also but having three as of yet unfixable issues is pretty much ruining it. Rant over for now
The big 3
Re: The big 3 (jroot)
1. Ever since pre-production, they've mentioned that the versa's 6-speed manual was a bit rubbery and clunky feeling. The also mentioned that it took a while for the revs to fall between shifts, which means you either have to shift slowly or your shifts can get harsh feeling.
2. Several A/C compressors are pretty loud (mainly in smaller vehicles; my old civic did it and my brother's mini cooper is insanely loud) so there's nothing you can do about that...
3. I think you're just going to have to suffer with the light until NNA (Nissan North America) releases a TSB for the problem, so that the dealer can fix it permanently. It could be attributed to several things, but IMO, the sensors are just too sensitive (pun intended) and the slightest variation in tire pressure triggers the system to think there's something wrong.
As for the other issues, I would take it to a different dealer if you can. Tell them that it's unacceptable for your car to be pulling to the left and demand they do an alignment (or fix whatever else could be causing it). Are your tires all inflated properly? Where is the wind noise from the driver's side coming from? You may be able to fix it if it sounds like its' coming from the window.
2. Several A/C compressors are pretty loud (mainly in smaller vehicles; my old civic did it and my brother's mini cooper is insanely loud) so there's nothing you can do about that...
3. I think you're just going to have to suffer with the light until NNA (Nissan North America) releases a TSB for the problem, so that the dealer can fix it permanently. It could be attributed to several things, but IMO, the sensors are just too sensitive (pun intended) and the slightest variation in tire pressure triggers the system to think there's something wrong.
As for the other issues, I would take it to a different dealer if you can. Tell them that it's unacceptable for your car to be pulling to the left and demand they do an alignment (or fix whatever else could be causing it). Are your tires all inflated properly? Where is the wind noise from the driver's side coming from? You may be able to fix it if it sounds like its' coming from the window.
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Re: The big 3 (LA02MAX)
Any Nissan dealer should do an alignment check for free. It doesn't take long but may require an appointment. If your dealer refuses to help you there, find a different one, and report the unhelpful dealer to Nissan North America.
Re: The big 3 (jroot)
Have you looked at / read zerothread/189627 this thread ? Never having had a manual trans. where the clutch slipped, I wasn't sure that was what was happening to my Versa (SL, conv. pkg.). Engine was reving (tac jumped a couple thous. rpm's) before trans. would engage. Got mine fixed at my dealer this week and they had never seen or even heard of the issue. But then, from the owner all the way through the service dept., I've got a great dealership !jroot wrote:1. Manual Transmission:The gears are very rough to shift in and out of and you hear a crappy noise everytime you shift. It also seems as if the engine is always revving when you go to shift like it is sticking. I took the car to my dealer and they were leary to dig into this problem until they had another manual tran versa to compare things against. So far I have been waiting 2 weeks...
No issues with my a/c or the tire pressure light (yet). Many, many years ago, I had a B210, and later a hatch back. Nissan shifters are pretty klunky... I guess is the word... but I'm kinda used to it.
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Re: The big 3 (jroot)
About the noisy shifter... I think that's been noticed by a few owners and reviewers. I read at least two reviews that mentioned the revs hanging between shifts and both said the factory would have a fix before production. The manual trans I test drove back in July before I bought my CVT model had the hanging revs problem (it really turned me off or I might have bought that car), but I didn't remember the shifter being loud. I guess the fix before production hasn't happened because there are a few owners on this forum who can attest to that issue.
Regarding the noise from your AC... That's not your AC, that's your electric cooling fans. Every front wheel drive car made today (and most trucks/SUVs as well) have electric powered cooling fans. It saves a lot of horsepower because the electric fan can be modulated acording to cooling needs. The power to drive a fan increases as the cube of it's speed, therefore the old belt driven fans which always turned at a speed proportional to the engine wasted a lot of energy.
I don't know what technology is available to make fans quieter since the noise they make is directly caused by thier function: to move air. So any car you buy may well have a cooling fan that drowns out the engine. The important thing, I think, is that you can't hear it in the cabin - at all!
And drive through speakers are notoriously poor in fidelity.
Don't mean to poo poo your problems, just want to help you understand what's going on. Something really should be done about the TPMS problems and about the hanging revs. Methinks a software update is in the works. I just hope the engineers get wind of us poor sould who are having crappy fuel economy and look for a real solution to that problem.
Hang in there!
Ben
Regarding the noise from your AC... That's not your AC, that's your electric cooling fans. Every front wheel drive car made today (and most trucks/SUVs as well) have electric powered cooling fans. It saves a lot of horsepower because the electric fan can be modulated acording to cooling needs. The power to drive a fan increases as the cube of it's speed, therefore the old belt driven fans which always turned at a speed proportional to the engine wasted a lot of energy.
I don't know what technology is available to make fans quieter since the noise they make is directly caused by thier function: to move air. So any car you buy may well have a cooling fan that drowns out the engine. The important thing, I think, is that you can't hear it in the cabin - at all!
And drive through speakers are notoriously poor in fidelity.
Don't mean to poo poo your problems, just want to help you understand what's going on. Something really should be done about the TPMS problems and about the hanging revs. Methinks a software update is in the works. I just hope the engineers get wind of us poor sould who are having crappy fuel economy and look for a real solution to that problem.
Hang in there!
Ben
Re: The big 3 (BenDupre)
Ben, do you think the hanging revs feels something like a heavy flywheel? Having never driven a 6-speed myself, I can't really judge it besides from what I've heard....In the maxima, I know that a lightweight flywheel makes a LARGE difference in the rate at which the revs fall between shifts, because I've driven in both (mine with the stock flywheel and another with a lightweight)
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Re: The big 3 (LA02MAX)
That was my first reaction too, because a heavy flywheel will cause revs to fall very slowly.
However, I don't believe they will cause the revs to INCREASE before they fall, which I've noticed (it increases about 100-200 rpm, not very noticeable, but there nonetheless).
My Versa has been performing very well, so even if the software isn't fixed for the throttle issue I'm not worried. I do want the damn TPMS software or sensors or whatever fixed... that's just obnoxious. Honestly, I'd rathernot have the system period, but that's not an option.
However, I don't believe they will cause the revs to INCREASE before they fall, which I've noticed (it increases about 100-200 rpm, not very noticeable, but there nonetheless).
My Versa has been performing very well, so even if the software isn't fixed for the throttle issue I'm not worried. I do want the damn TPMS software or sensors or whatever fixed... that's just obnoxious. Honestly, I'd rathernot have the system period, but that's not an option.
Re: The big 3 (Ever Victorious)
well in that case, it sounds like a TB issue...I'm pretty sure the versas have drive by wire like my maxima (electronic throttle). They tend to react a bit slower than cable throttles, but usually it's not that noticable...If it does it on all of the 6-speed V's it's probably throttle position sensor related. Hopefully they'll get it sorted out for the 2008 Versas and you'll be able to fix the problem.
Re: The big 3 (LA02MAX)
It's all in the software. EVERYTHING on this car is controlled by software.
Yhr TPMS issue might be other than software related. It could be bad sending units in the tires. You'd think the computer could be programmed to avoid nuissance tripping.
Next time your light goes on, try inflating all the tires to 40lb and see if the light goes out. If it does, then bleed them back down to 33 or whatever is on the doorplate in your vehicle. This worked for me and another member in this forum.
Ben
Yhr TPMS issue might be other than software related. It could be bad sending units in the tires. You'd think the computer could be programmed to avoid nuissance tripping.
Next time your light goes on, try inflating all the tires to 40lb and see if the light goes out. If it does, then bleed them back down to 33 or whatever is on the doorplate in your vehicle. This worked for me and another member in this forum.
Ben
Re: The big 3 (jroot)
"Those are the major issues I have. Mine also happens to pull to the left,"
--I just picked mine up two days ago--mine is slightly (very, very Slightly) pulling to the left also. I have not yet checked it, but my guess is it is the tire pressure. It has been raining here all day so I have not had a chance to check all the tires, but make sure you are properly inflated. I will check mine in the next day or so and post back.Sorry to hear about all of your problems bro. I really hope it gets straightend out soon.
--I just picked mine up two days ago--mine is slightly (very, very Slightly) pulling to the left also. I have not yet checked it, but my guess is it is the tire pressure. It has been raining here all day so I have not had a chance to check all the tires, but make sure you are properly inflated. I will check mine in the next day or so and post back.Sorry to hear about all of your problems bro. I really hope it gets straightend out soon.