test fit turbo upgrade (pics)

[rb24t]

well just to give you guys a two year old update im still running your claimed ****ty chinese turbo and it still works great and im currently making 335whp on 11lbs and 396whp on 17lbs of boost tunned with a power fc





if mine was a cheap crappy turbo i dont think it would have lasted this long and taken the amount of abuse it has, hypergear has great products and until you have tryed one of "their" turbos i would post how crappy they are that would make you just seem very unprofessional

[nizmo zilvia]

When do you hit your boost at? Looks like the perfect turbo Im searching for.

[rb24t]

i would say at aboout 3800-4000rpm and if your cruising in 2 gear at about 40mph its instant , it spools really nice and does have lag compared to the stocker but its a worthy trade off for the midrang and high rpm pull you get from a larger turbo.

[nizmo zilvia]

Very nice. Do you know if stock downpipe will work with this turbo? And if so where can I get one? I think this would be great for the RB20 if I can't find a HKS GT2535.

[rb24t]

no the stock downpipe wontwork. i would suggest hypergears tr43hf turbo for the rb20 but ituses a 3 inch v band outlet like mine so you would have to make a custom downpipe for it

[TSL]

well just to give you guys a two year old update im still running your claimed ****ty chinese turbo and it still works great and im currently making 335whp on 11lbs and 396whp on 17lbs of boost tunned with a power fc

if mine was a cheap crappy turbo i dont think it would have lasted this long and taken the amount of abuse it has, hypergear has great products and until you have tryed one of "their" turbos i would post how crappy they are that would make you just seem very unprofessional

I have tried several hypergear turbos, i wouldn't talk about them if i hadn't. Of course they don't have a 100% failure rate and you are lucky to have a good one. Personally i have had to return 4 of things, 2 of them failed in less than 1 hour of use.

Having said that i have seen garrett, trust, hks, apexi etc. fail as well but it is my experience that the cheaper turbos do have a lot more problems than the more expensive and respected turbos. Definitely not as well designed.Anyway, what i said was mostly directed at the jerk stain who came in here trying to sell his wares.

I'm happy that your hypergear turbo is still working well, but you know it's a cheap turbo, thats why you bought it. Don't be so sensitive when someone points it out.
Modified by TSL at 6:03 AM 8/17/2008

[rb24t]

well i guess thats a matter of opinion try not to be so sensitive when someone has one other than yours

[Kalypso]

lots of drama, this is a theatre club meeting.

*sigh well no love lost borg warner and holset make great turbos that are very affordable so, I cant be mad.

[TSL]

well i guess thats a matter of opinion try not to be so sensitive when someone has one other than yours

What is a matter of opinion?

lots of drama, this is a theatre club meeting.

I like drama. It entertains me.

[rb24t]

I'm happy that your hypergear turbo is still working well, but you know it's a cheap turbo, thats why you bought it. Don't be so sensitive when someone points it out.

[TSL]

Right. So my opinion is that i am happy for you. Glad thats been cleared up.

Are you sure you know whats happening here?

[DriftsideRacing.com]

Hi TSL,

many cn turbos in the 90s were extremely bad. It all came from xspower in the early days. Things have changed in well over 10 years.

Many cn tubos are still vacum ballanced. Running a vacum threw them spining the wheels. And then some others are vsr balanced. There are many different types of vsr machines. Some have maximum speeds of up to 80,000rpm and then others hav done can do over 180,000rpm

Not all these turbos are the same. What it is.. Is that all the parts come from the tooling owners. And the turbo buyrs sort threw the parts picking them out. Choosing best suited. Doing spectros on the materials

Also the journals bearins design differ including the many other things from manufactue to manufacture

The story behind kkr and hyper gear is short. kkr had a supplier ( cnr ) and cnrs supplys turbos continued to fail. David at cnr had a go at the turbo man. New general manager told him to leave it. And cnr david had to find a new supplier. THEN the old supplier started selling the old kkr moulds. And thats what you are currently seeing with hyper gear and tsr and a wide range of others. As far as i know kkr au ( Ben ) turbos are now sorted. And hyper gear are just tricking the market saying there Korean!! wtf!

DSR uses different cores. Different exhaust housings and different tortion incldn journals design. With over 200pcs sold in nz alone since January2008 to todays date with out a single failure or return.

As as far as CN turbos go. There are still bad turbos. And there are good ones. dsr is the best Journal bearing turbo in the world along with ihi and over powering masterpower With there own tooling for there new range of Branded dsr turbos moving away from this cnr kkr hyper look alike catorgory

ProtoType1http://www.driftsideracing.com...6.jpg

DSR3540Turbine-Wheel: 68mm w/ 84 trim-Housing: .63 ar, .82 ar, 1.06 ar

Compressor-Wheel: 82mm w/ 56 trim-Housing: .70 ar

DSR3040Turbine-Wheel: 60mm w/ 84 trim-Housing: .63 ar, .82 ar, 1.06 ar

Compressor-Wheel: 82mm w/ 56 trim-Housing: .70 ar


Modified by DriftsideRacing.com at 3:58 PM 8/16/2008

[DriftsideRacing.com]

Hi,

if anyone is interested we can send these overseas

[l0nestar]

Stitch welded towers, tucked wires, Nice!

Where is your igniter? Tucked behind the head?Did you extend the wires when you relocated the fuse block and the CS coolant res, or did you just bend it as far as you could?What mount kit did you use to install a Koyo Rad?

No timing cover.. No air filter.. Do you like the MR coilovers?Notice anything with the heat-tape on the PS Res?

Do you have any other pics of your car?

PS. I definitely dig your avatar!

[HyperGear]

Good to see our 05 production is still working in perfect order as it should've. The quality of our products speaks for it self.

For people who's interested to know, we've used to import Korean (all china made ****), and Chinese turbos many years back. and the truth is that they are rubbish, real rubbish, I wasted over 30G on it and even more on customer's compensaion. They can't even get a their housing profiles machined in a straight line, and talking about their oil seals, bearings shafts this is a fuken joke, some one needs to go there and explain to them what precision tooling means

By saying that the work tolerance within true measurements on a turbocharger needs to be within 1 thou to actually remain in a stable state while spinning. Pretty much all those China imported **** are way over 10 thou some of them are over 80 thou which you can see it’s waped just by looking at it.

Also its funny for whom you hear yea yea yea our CN turbos are done on VSR machine, balanced blah blah, and lol, those Machines made those CN turbos are also MADE in CHINA. You recon it’s a good precision equipments. Talking about balance they can’t even pick any thing below 0.2of a gram. Turbocharger require .08 of a gram to be able to stay true at 130,000RPM.

This TR44 that you bought in 05 was a Garrett Built CHRA with a China made housing which we had to get it re-profiled 100% to suit. And yes it will last you, in fact run 50 shot Nos on 22psi you will see 315rwkws and 11.04 quarter mile time. Want to know why I got this info? Because we’ve done that as part of our research.

So after 2006 we’ve fully established in Australia, all of our turbochargers are designed, built, with quality Garrett parts. We do source certain housings from China, they comes in as casted state, we carry out all machinery and profile process in Australia with qualified engineers and propa Australian built equipments.

We also won 2nd in Vic drift this year April and 3rd in DA Final . For whom wants to see our turbochargers in acution please visit our media site:

http://www.digi-hardware.com/media.html

As DSR, TSL or who ever yous are:You don't beg other people goods to make yours stand out, infect your CN crap didn't even last for 3 weeks in our test car, talking about failure, do a search on motor sports NZ forums and see how many people's got issues with your turbo and you fuken tell them to worm up and babe sit your turbos turbos in a blanket before installation ???? people don’t get warranty just becuase they installed your turbo them selves? They failed because of poor quality material, Poor quality design and Poor quality manufacturing. And for us who established before you even know what a turbo is to copy your **** this is a fuken joke.

Look, Nothing's wrong with you selling your crap. Just mind your own business and don't step on to other people's foot. That is all


Modified by HyperGear at 11:18 PM 1/3/2009

[Kalypso]

wow... ok

[fast_s14]

I think after reading this entire thread that i will just stick to the big name turbos like garrett, holset, turbonetics, precision, etc... At least if you have a problem with their product you can get ahold of their bada$$ customer support. Their names will be out there tomorrow, next week, and prolly forever in the automotive industry.

Just my .2 cents

[HyperGear]

in fact I would like to post out our dyno read out of this very own turbo (TR44) performed on a stock 1JZ 2.5L 6cyc (similar to RB25) corona.



and its 11.04 sec quarter mile run.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTbaPNRBcJY

[Kalypso]

the only way you'll turn us into real customers

is if you do a rigorous test on two of your turbos... and document everything that happens... side by side to a garrret / BW / and a holset.

Then you can post the results for people to see... but the conditions would have to be challenging.

[HyperGear]

Not really here to sale my products. Just angry to see those CN turbo importers are here begging us to sale their inferiors crap. Perhaps they should run 22psi with some nitrous to their turbos instead.

Well as manufacture I'm not allowed to publically post comparasim graph with other brands. But if you like have a read at this SAU thread:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.c....html

a tuner's posted results from our ATR28 (bolton SR20 turbo) on a:

CA18det 1.8L 4cyc engine vsSR20det 2.0L VCT 4cyc engine with GT2871RvsRB25det 2.5L 6cyc engine with HKS GTRS

and here it is if you wonder what my result is with our ATR28G3 tubocharger on CA18det.


Modified by HyperGear at 4:12 PM 12/25/2008

[StricNyne]

at first i was skepitcal (i cant spell) about their turbos i saw on ebay, but the dyno dosent lie, i have seen post from highly reputable shops and posters on SAU regarding their turbos and have all been positive, honestly i am fairly excited about their lineup, and once i ever decide on a setup i will take their line up into serious consideration, i mean people in dsm world dont knock forced performances stuff espoically since they have paperwork backing all their procucts, i dont why nissan heads are going to knock someone offering setups that are proven to be reliable and worthwhile and affordable

[SuicidnS13]

Well after like 3 days of research on SAU and nissansilvia.com I cant really find anything wrong with this hypergear company as of yet. Typical failure rate (just like everyother turbo out there) But I still wont be trading out my holsets for these or garretts any time soon.

[HyperGear]

Can you actually explain in details of “our typical failure rate"? or please inform me as whom had our turbos that had failed and reason been. Similar looking turbochargers are in our market, and certain people are trying to advertise their products as “same” or “similar to”. Which does not mean that we've manufactured such products, and they are obviously NOT the same.

Please note. I'm not here to advertise our goods as your own market and is straggling bad enough. My reason to post is simply to clear all those gutless ramous left from those boggy sneaky CN turbo importers.

Also SuicidnS13 can you post a copy of your Holset turbo result. As in Aus Holset only manufacture turbochargers for Trucks.
Modified by HyperGear at 4:33 AM 1/1/2009

[treymeiste]

ahhh drama

[SuicidnS13]

Can you actually explain in details of “our typical failure rate"? or please inform me as whom had our turbos that had failed and reason been. Similar looking turbochargers are in our market, and certain people are trying to advertise their products as “same” or “similar to”. Which does not mean that we've manufactured such products, and they are obviously NOT the same.

Please note. I'm not here to advertise our goods as your own market and is straggling bad enough. My reason to post is simply to clear all those gutless ramous left from those boggy sneaky CN turbo importers.

Also SuicidnS13 can you post a copy of your Holset turbo result. As in Aus Holset only manufacture turbochargers for Trucks.

Modified by HyperGear at 4:33 AM 1/1/2009

Sorry Hypergear I was actually trying to provide support for your company. What I meant by typical failure rate is that its comparable to garrett, hks and other big names here in the US (IE very low).

My holset turbo setup has yet to be put into the car as the car is a complete build up right now. (Hx35 rebuilt running BW housing) But many people in this country are getting great if not better dyno results for less money than their similar sized garrett competitors. The only reason I would stick with a holset for my personal needs over a hypergear turbo is I can have the turbos rebuilt literally in-town. And Holsets are very similar to BW turbos. Ultra strong and made to support huge amounts of hp/trq and to be reliable. My neighbors Cummins Dodge has over 130k(miles) on the stock turbo and it was chipped over 80k(miles) ago. Most garretts and other brands need to be rebuilt after half those miles especially if their being run at more than 80% of their efficiency.

Hypergear I wish your company the best of luck breaking into the US market. You seem to provide a solid product at a great value. We need more companies like yours here. But we also need affordable support. Shipping to and from AU would be very expensive for rebuilds/ect....

[HyperGear]

I Apologize for my misunderstanding and Thank you for your support.

The HX3x Holset turbos, here they are very popular on medium trucks. Holset turbo bearings are very strong. They last for 15 years at 30psi daily. We use part of their bearing kits in our ATR turbos to handel high boost.

And I wish you the best on your project. Plus Happy new year every one !!

[SuicidnS13]

I Apologize for my misunderstanding and Thank you for your support.

The HX3x Holset turbos, here they are very popular on medium trucks. Holset turbo bearings are very strong. They last for 15 years at 30psi daily. We use part of their bearing kits in our ATR turbos to handel high boost.

And I wish you the best on your project. Plus Happy new year every one !!

Can you actually prove that you guys use Holset parts in your turbos? If this is so then possibly I may even consider ordering one for sr20det track car. The RB is my street car. Define *part* of their bearing kit. What housing is your turbo a copy off? What about the CHRA? Is it a garrett, holset or other design copy?

[HyperGear]

At this stage. The bits that we use from Original Holset part is the trust bearing and trust collar as they are bigger and made from stainless steel, our ATR46 900HP is currently using it at this stage.

We don't "copy" any one's products. at Moment most of our components used are original Garrett parts. We mix and match wheels and housings to produce newer turbos.

For SR20s track cars ATR28G3 is definitely recommended. will make close to 300rwkws internal gate in bolton form. We’ve made special thrust bearing, collar and sleeve bearings for this turbo to stand high heat and high thrust load. So you can run 25psi safely.

[WAYSTAR TURBO]

WAYSTAR Declaration:

We noticed there are member in the forum mentioned Waystar Auto Parts Co. here we do some declaration as bellow:

Waystar is a reputable auto performance parts manufacturer and exporter in china, We supply qualified items.

Waystar turbocharger use high nickle material for exhaust parts. It will be longer work life .

Waystar turbo compressor wheels, turbine wheels and shaft, CHRA all balanced , We control the VSR data strictly.

We had kept all VRS data for every turbo from waystar.

Waystar turbo mean qualified turbo.

[Cjmartz2k]

WAYSTAR Declaration:

We noticed there are member in the forum mentioned Waystar Auto Parts Co. here we do some declaration as bellow:

Waystar is a reputable auto performance parts manufacturer and exporter in china, We supply qualified items.

Waystar turbocharger use high nickle material for exhaust parts. It will be longer work life .

Waystar turbo compressor wheels, turbine wheels and shaft, CHRA all balanced , We control the VSR data strictly.

We had kept all VRS data for every turbo from waystar.

Waystar turbo mean qualified turbo.

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