Temporary Agency

[krimsonviper]

Thinking about surrendering to a temp agency for dental staffing( I know, who would have known there was an agency for it? ). Anyone have any experience with temp agencies? I know that if I find a job within an allotted time, I have to buy my contract from them and it can be expensive, but think of all the experience I could be getting, and the money!

Please give input please.

Also, enjoy this video while you type a response.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I

[nissangirl74]

I have had better luck with the temp agencies. It lead to a nine year gig that I left only because I moved out here to AZ. I would ask for full disclosure if you do decide to use one, that way you know what you are getting into ahead of time.

[krimsonviper]

Full disclosure? What's that?

[nissangirl74]

Full disclosure? What's that?

What you have to do EXACTLY if the company you are working through as a temp decides they want to employ you full time. Any and all fees? A certain length of time you have to work with them before you can leave them without penalty, things like that.

[krimsonviper]

Do the best you can to avoid utilizing a temporary work agency. Their contracts typically have numerous stipulations in them that could state any of the following:

1) If a job is found and you are placed, you will have to pay the agency either directly or it will come out of your weekly/monthly salary

2) If you quit or are fired, you have to pay the temp agency a certain amount of money (typically a percentage of your salary)

Also, I did a little investigation and it appears as if most temporary work agencies share a database of job applicants (a.k.a. LEADS) and once someone is fired from a job that they were placed into, they become "blacklisted" on the database and loose many future job opportunities because of being blacklisted.
I'm typing from a phone, so I hope this is the bottom of your quote.

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know about the blacklisting. So far I haven't been fired from a job before, but that's still a huge thing. I think I am gonna wait until I'm an RDA and can't find a job for some time before I sign up for one. I have until December/January to find a good paying job. If not, well I'm screwed.
Try Jobs.com, careerbuilder.com, etc. etc.
Only go to a temporary work agency if no other opportunities can be found.

[nissangirl74]

Do the best you can to avoid utilizing a temporary work agency. Their contracts typically have numerous stipulations in them that could state any of the following:

1) If a job is found and you are placed, you will have to pay the agency either directly or it will come out of your weekly/monthly salary

2) If you quit or are fired, you have to pay the temp agency a certain amount of money (typically a percentage of your salary)

Also, I did a little investigation and it appears as if most temporary work agencies share a database of job applicants (a.k.a. LEADS) and once someone is fired from a job that they were placed into, they become "blacklisted" on the database and loose many future job opportunities because of being blacklisted.
I'm typing from a phone, so I hope this is the bottom of your quote.

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know about the blacklisting. So far I haven't been fired from a job before, but that's still a huge thing. I think I am gonna wait until I'm an RDA and can't find a job for some time before I sign up for one. I have until December/January to find a good paying job. If not, well I'm screwed.
Try Jobs.com, careerbuilder.com, etc. etc.
Only go to a temporary work agency if no other opportunities can be found.

Not all agencies are the same. The company I used didn't have any penalties whatsoever. Just don't assume that what is OK for one company will be the status quo for the whole industry.

[krimsonviper]

Dammit! My response to Infiniti is inside that quote towards the end and mixed up in it. I would fix it, but I can't, I'm on a phone texting.

Full disclosure? What's that?

What you have to do EXACTLY if the company you are working through as a temp decides they want to employ you full time. Any and all fees? A certain length of time you have to work with them before you can leave them without penalty, things like that.

Awesome. Thank you Becky!

[Dattebayo]

Don't put any job on your reference sheet that might be anything out of the ordinary.

[G_whizz]

Do the best you can to avoid utilizing a temporary work agency. Their contracts typically have numerous stipulations in them that could state any of the following:

1) If a job is found and you are placed, you will have to pay the agency either directly or it will come out of your weekly/monthly salary

2) If you quit or are fired, you have to pay the temp agency a certain amount of money (typically a percentage of your salary)

Also, I did a little investigation and it appears as if most temporary work agencies share a database of job applicants (a.k.a. LEADS) and once someone is fired from a job that they were placed into, they become "blacklisted" on the database and loose many future job opportunities because of being blacklisted.

Try Jobs.com, careerbuilder.com, etc. etc.
Only go to a temporary work agency if no other opportunities can be found.

I own an agency... I have no idea where you have heard half the information you just posted??

Krimson...if you have any specific questions hit me up and I will do my best to help you..

[krimsonviper]

Wages, generally how does it work for your employees?

Do the employers requesting the employees, have a given mandatory time? Say you have an employee that they decide to take, soes that employee stay there for a certain amount of time before they say no more?

Any benefits? Vacation, health, etc?

Does every agency have full disclosure?

How is the flow of work? Would I be able to claim unemployment between jobs?

[G_whizz]

Ok...first and foremost...if ANY agency wants a penny from you...turn around and walk out.

example:
Client calls and needs a CS person for 1 month
I ask them what kind of hourly bill rate I can charge.
They tell me $25/hr
I call you and offer you a CS job for 1 month and I will pay you $18.75/hr
I am not pocketing a full $6.25/hr from you. Approx. 25% of that $6.25 goes to payroll costs, your 4% vacation pay, Employment Insurance etc..then my own costs to run a business (rent,phone,computer etc) so in the end, I'm probably making like $2/hr off a candidate.
I try to pay my people as close to what the client would pay them if they were hired on their own.
I bill clients COMPLETELY seperate from the "Temp" I do not take a penny from you.
If I place you in a permanent job, I take nothing from you. I bill the client a percentage of whatever salary they hire you at.
Example -
Clients hires you at 40k for a CS job
I charge the client a "finders fee" for the candidate like 16% of the salary and give them a 90 day guarantee on the candidate. If they don't work out, I replace them free of charge.


They have just changed the rules here in Canucky land, so I can't 100% speak for all of your laws. But if you went on your states labour board (sorry labor for you yanks) they will be able to confirm if there is a mandatory hire time. Here, there isn't.

Some agencies offer benefits...but it is VERY rare. If you are on contract at a client, you MAY be eligible to receive benefits. Every company is different.
You are a temp. any vacation you take is unpaid. You only get paid for the hours you work. Unless it is a Stat holiday, here, I would have to take the last 4 weeks worked and divide by 20...that will be your pay for the holiday at a max. of 8 hours.

Depends on required work hours in your state to qualify for unemployment. Any temp hours worked are taken into consideration and added to the "pool" of hours.

Hope that helps!

[krimsonviper]

Awesome! Thank you! One more question, I know that your country's health is a lot different than ours, but do you have temp workers that are dental assistants? I find it really awkward that there is a company that even exists. They're Busy Bee Dental Agency.

[G_whizz]

There is an agency out there that "specializes" in anything.

To my knowledge, there was an agency in the US called Elite Staffing that I believe focuses in Healthcare

Try these

http://www.careersindental.com/index.cf ... uiters.htm

http://www.staffpointe.com/alliedhealth ... istant.htm

[PoorManQ45]

Clients hires you at 40k for a CS job
I charge the client a "finders fee" for the candidate like 16% of the salary and give them a 90 day guarantee on the candidate. If they don't work out, I replace them free of charge.

Hehe, humans with a warranty!

[Dattebayo]

Hehe, humans with a warranty!

That's why you're still around. We tried to take you back but the warranty was up. Now we're stuck with you.

[PoorManQ45]

Hehe, humans with a warranty!

That's why you're still around. We tried to take you back but the warranty was up. Now we're stuck with you.