tein s Techs... or rs-r race springs???

[Milky6]

Which ones should i go for?? I know rs-r's are more expensive.. but is there a reason? why are stech's so cheap compared to other springs?? please help.. thanks!

[2s4x0]

i love my s-techs. Not to crazy low of a drop. Enough though for the wheels to fillout the fenders a bit better. Plus its within the range where i wont break warranty on kyb agx.

[240marcuSX]

im extremely happy with the rsr race springs, but you shouldnt run them on anything less than konis

[c-rad]

RS*R hands down. The S. Tech's are meant to be for "show" hence the "dress-up" notation on the box. RS*R's are much stiffer.

[kamikazestorm420]

i have the s techs on right now ..

and im about to change them to rsr race springs.

[virus77]

I used to have rsr and I switched to coilovers, I was very surprised with how good the rsr was compared to them.

[EstoMax]

i got stechs with kyb agx and i find them pretty stiff..

body roll is very minimal, especially at stiffest shock setting

max

[iPrecisionNET]

I owned S. Techs (Before selling them with my AGXs to my buddy Rob) and I was very displeased with them. During the swap I compared the sizes and they're about the same size as the stockers and when standing on both they did not appear to be stiffer than stock (and they were brand new and the stock were majorly beaten on). The S. Techs have been the only automotive part purchase I have been displeased with. I also lined my car with the S. Techs and KYBs up to another black base stock 97 (I looked in the fender well to check) that I saw in an apartment parking lot and there was no height difference. If I asked someone to point to the lowered car I would probably just get a confused look. If I were to do it again I would get Eibach Sportlines or RS*R springs, most likely RS*R. I'd like to finish this reply by stating that this was my experience and I apologize that it can't be more accurate on the striffness portion since the swap was done with shocks at the same time. I purchased my parts new from Enjuku (great customer service) and ran them on stock base wheels and reasonable tires.

[EstoMax]

well straight from the manufacturers website:

tein s-techF: 212 lb/in, 3.8 kg/mmR: 196 lb/in, 3.5 kg/mmdrop 1.3F 0.9R

RS*R raceF: 279lb/ inR: 194lb/ indrop 1.4F 1.0R

their both pretty similar , i kno s-techs are progressive not sure of the rs*r's from the picture they seem linear

[iPrecisionNET]

well straight from the manufacturers website:

tein s-techF: 212 lb/in, 3.8 kg/mmR: 196 lb/in, 3.5 kg/mmdrop 1.3F 0.9R

RS*R raceF: 279lb/ inR: 194lb/ indrop 1.4F 1.0R

their both pretty similar , i kno s-techs are progressive not sure of the rs*r's from the picture they seem linear

I can gaurantee the manufacturer's site is wrong, there was no drop on my car and if there was then it would have been an unnoticeable amount, in no way was it 1.3" or even 1". Also, progressive springs are impossible to be given rates, so I'm not quite sure what portion of the spring those rates are based on.

[Lt.Mike]

Out of curiosity, in reality how much do the RSR Race springs lower your car (S13)? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

[thekage]

well straight from the manufacturers website:

tein s-techF: 212 lb/in, 3.8 kg/mmR: 196 lb/in, 3.5 kg/mmdrop 1.3F 0.9R

RS*R raceF: 279lb/ inR: 194lb/ indrop 1.4F 1.0R

[Meantime]

In reality it'll be slightly lower than that, after the springs have some time to settle. RS*R springs lowered my S13 ~1.5/1.2 inches after a year and 10k miles.

[240marcuSX]

my hatch looks really nice with RSR's and 16" wheels with a 50 sidewall.

[Lt.Mike]

Ah, slightly lower I see. Yeah, I am thinking of upgrading my Eibach Pro's to RSR Race this summer (I have Koni Yellows for dampers).

I had them on for about a year and want to match a spring rate that will make the mostout of my struts, and also the progressive spring rate hurts my handling in the slaloms.

Will there be an additional drop to my current ride height when I do this?

[Nameless EJ6]

I have S tech's. They suck IMO. They have a good stance, that's about it. Not too fond of their handling characteristics..

I only bought them for a temporary thing though.. they'll be replaced with full coilovers soon.

[240marcuSX]

lt mike. yes there will be, i had the pro-kits on konis also until i switched to rsr's for the exact same reason you are. there is a noticable drop, it looks and feels soo much better, and auto-x is soo much better with the RSR's, i say go for it. i got mine from phase2.

[Lt.Mike]

Thanks Marc. That is the answer that I have longed been waiting for. do you have trouble going over speed bumps and such with those?

[virus77]

I would say dont expect too much of a drop from any type of lowering spring, especially since the stock 240's have monstor fender gap, its going to look barely lowered.

[xxdjstriderxx]

thats true....huge fender gap.probably wont notice a big difference unless u get coilovers...REAL ones.i have kyb gr2s with s.techs, they handle better than stock..thats a plus, but nothing majori think the stechs are more for looks than performance...i mean they ARE called "dress up master", i just changed my shocks because my old setup was blown.do what you gotta do, its got a lot to do with your fundage. $_$

[Meantime]

You'll have to go pretty slow over speed bumps, esp. if your damper settings are high (like mine). But it's not unmanageable. Just expect a stiff but tolerable ride.

[240marcuSX]

mike - not normally, there have only been 2 incidences when my BRM resonator has scraped. you might have to go in certain places at an angle, but it doesnt bother me one bit, i recommend them 100%.

virus and strider - that is simply not true, certain lowering springs can give a very nice stance, you do not have to get jdm bling coilovers to look lowered, just run a good size wheel and tire, (meaning no 25 aspect ratios or something ridiculous like that)

[virus77]

It depends what you concider a nice stance. I like my car to be right on or covering a few mm of tire, so no fender gap whatsoever. I dont know of any spring that will do that, at least not for the S14, I dont know if the s13s are different. Also if there is a spring that will lower it that much (maybe ground control type coilovers, or cut springs) there is no shock that is designed to take it, maybe konis, but most shocks will be at the end of the shock travel and they will blow in due time.

[240marcuSX]

i dont know of any springs either that can be used to slam the car, but from a performance standpoint there is really no improvement from slamming a car. i need to get my hands on a digital camera and ill post up pics of mine, definately looks lowered, and has an incredible feel, with appropriate sized wheels and tires.

[virus77]

I definatly agree from a performance standpoint they are very good, I even mentioned that in my first post. But as far as looks go you cant achieve the look some people are after.

[240marcuSX]

agreed.

[virus77]

[Lt.Mike]

Okay, odds are that I will purchase those RS*R Race springs, and since I do not feel like guessing and checking the settings on the rear's with my Koni's, what do you have them set to Marc?

By the way, when I got my car used, it came with a nameless coil-over sleeve. When I changed to Koni & Eibach Pro's, I lost steering response in the front. Do you suppose that I will gain my steering response back when I switch to RS*R's?

[240marcuSX]

my fronts i think are on the softest setting, or maybe a half turn or full turn from the softest setting. my rears are about halfway between the softest and the hardest.

you will notice a big difference from the pro-kits to the race springs, i would bet that you will get much better response, but i dont know what youre whole setup is, and even if i did, i could only speculate. They are one of my best modifications yet.