tangential t3 mani options

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what all options do we have for the kade running a t3 4bolt turbine? any info is appreciated.


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peak boost, full race, ETD racing, JGS tools(has a new cast version), El crapo ebay special, or have a shop build u one

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so the ebay ones clear using a tangential housing? i read on here somewhere that WD had one that didnt. anyone got pics running an ebay special with a tangential housing with everything bolted up (not how they show on the ebay listings with sh1t hangin off).

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man ur car is too clean to put a ebay special on there, forget the headaches and get a JGS tools, they're not that expensive, and you'll be happier in the long run. Not to piss anyone off that is using a ebay manifold, but if your going to go and turbo ur car, buy the nicest gear thats in ur budget, or just save until u can, it will be worth it in the end.

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yeah i would like to get all of my options on a platter and see which one suits me best. when its all said and done i would like to be putting down 400. i saw this mani on ebay and looks similar in quality to peak boost, and the full race. it is only $500 as opposed to the 800 and 1100 dollar price tags on the other two. the only thing is theres no external wg flange but i could take care of that. before i emailed them to see if it clears i wanted to see what ALL of my options are because i would like to make this a one time only thing. which yeah, kinda rules out the ebay special as well. the jgs cast mani is like 350 or something. i would much rather dish the extra 150 for a nice equal length mani.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1




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ohnestly for a 400whp application i would get a cast manifold, because you will not notice the difference first off and secondly a cast manifold us much more durable and will not crack.

if your car is daily driver cast should be your only option.

if you weekend drive and track once in a while then race header could be an option for you.

i understand the manufacturers of the equal length manifold are very repectable but a tubular manifold wil eventually crack from heat versus a cast manifold.

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true on that brotha, also that mani u see for $500 on ebay is made for the wastegate to go on the dp, I called the place(Tophatperformance.com). Thats why I like the JGS tools mani b/c u can use a t3/t4 instead of a straight t4 with the RH and RH knockoff.

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alright then, who besides jgs makes a cast mani that will work with a tangential turbine? how many people here run stainless tubular manis everyday? is the iap mani stainless? i know theres alot of people who run those everyday. one guy on here which is local to me runs that mani (dont know his sn).

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it would be just as easy to whole saw the collector and weld a flange on there. which is exactly what i would do.

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here is a ebay link for a cast manifold, i bought this same manifold and i am currently using it. the tangenal housing is close to the brake booster, but it works.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1


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it looks the exact same as the rev hard. is it the same casting as the rev hard? can you post some pics of yours? i know where a revhard is at for a good price used. if that will fit then i will def get that. let me know someone so i can grab it up. thanks for that link

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what about bottom mounting with a t3/t4e on that mani?

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isn't the manifold in the greddy kit a cast manifold. I am 90% sure that it is. I have no idea if you can actually buy the manifold by itself though, but i wouldn't see why not. I say give them a call.

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it will work on a .48 turbine for sure, im not 100% about the .63. ill have some pics later on.




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It will not work with a .63, I tried it. Greddy won't sell there mani seperately, but ETD racing sells a replica that u can get in mild steel that lets u use ext. wastegate, its setup just like the Greddy, just not cast. For the price the JGS tools has the best fitment for a cast manifold.

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damn, thanks guys. yall just saved me from a big headache. anyone have any other suggestions? sux jgs is the only one out there so far. i really like the one i posted up above. i emailed the guy too, but no response yet. yall have been a big help!

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i used the revhard with a .63 a/r tangental housing, i had to make some custom motor mounts though to clock the engine about an inch towards the passanger side. i took some grade 8 all thread and then took 5 hockey pucks, drilled holes though the center of them, and made me a couple studs to thread though them. used 2 hockey pucks on the passanger side and 3 on the driver side, so the motor sits about half an inch lower on the passanger side and about half an inch higher on the driver side. drive train and everything worked out. ended up costing me about 30 bucks total (the all thread was expensive, the hockey pucks were like 2 dollars each)

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or u can just rebend the brake lines to the mc and shim the booster assimbly with some 7/16 washers. Did that on a friends car, worked really nice with no problems. He already had Nismo motor mounts and the RH.

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another option is to get a RHD BMC and then bend the lines as well. or a combination of all of the above to get optimum clearance.

i am running a t3/t04e 57trim, .63ar so clearance was a major issue for me

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im just gonna go with the jgs cast mani. bolts right on with no hassles. i also like how you can clock the compressor housing to the driver side and run the charge piping clean. cant wait yall!

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well damn... just found that guy from top hat emailed me. he said that mani was made for the exact turbo i have. dilema dilema dilema.... actually i think ima go with the stainless tubular. yall can throw your 2 pennies in if you wish.

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the thing I dislike about there mani is that u must put ur wastegate on ur downpipe, or run and internally gated turbo. I still think the jgs cast is the way to go, u can use there downpipe and intercooler piping instead of having to build it, or have someone build it for u.

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i was planning on making my own DP. but shlt, now that youve said it, it would be a hell of alot easier to just buy one that fits already. the thing is that i have a 4 bolt turbine. i can probably just tell them that and they can weld a 4 bolt flange instead of the 5, or just give me one without the 5 flange and order a 4. then weld it myself once everything is bolted in. i already have intercooler and piping as well. ebay 8 piece for 100 bones. jgs it is. thanks again.

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welp i settled on the jgs kit. i ordered it today. i got the starter kit without turbo or wg. hes also making me a 4 bolt dp instead of the 5 to fit my turbo. damn, this go around i wont have to weld shlt! when i did my lude i made everything on that beast cept the mani. i cant wait!

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sounds like a good deal, you'll be happy with ur choice.


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