T70 Turbo???

[streetracer]

I was wondering if any one knows if the T70 turbo is safe to put on to a ka24de engine with out destroying the block or any thing else that the engine needs to be able to run.

[Import_Ant]

that's effin big... I don't think it will be dangerous (if you ever get it to spool) as long as you keep the boost down.

[Craving4Boost]

theres other ways to beat supras if that's what you want hehe....dont turn into a highway queen now...be a TQ king

[streetracer]

I am just trying to get the most out of my KA.I am trying to go for 500+hp at the rear wheels. I am not sure if the KA will even put out more than 500+hp.

[TheOne]

sooo...i take it you haven't seen the research done by Ivan?.....search for 638 hp and 599 tq so you can get more info.

but you can always try a T70........we still researching this engine.

[streetracer]

I am hoping not to make my car into a highway queen I am hoping it has enough tq and hp to be able to go up a against a ferrari on day.And i did search for the 599tq and the 638hp and came up with nothing.

[veilside180sx]

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This is what you were supposed to find.=)

[streetracer]

Thanks for all the help full info.I have found all the things that I could get at phatka-t.org.I am hoping to go to more than 580hp and to be able to get the ka to get to the 7or 800 hp and about 7to 799 tq.

[wild_maxx]

you better have some deep pockets for that project.

[somthin240]

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[Nismo_Freak]

Thanks for all the help full info.I have found all the things that I could get at phatka-t.org.I am hoping to go to more than 580hp and to be able to get the ka to get to the 7or 800 hp and about 7to 799 tq.

If you don't want a dyno queen then you want something with no more than about 500whp.

500whp, hell 300whp, in a 240SX is god damn fast. At 300whp you can outpace a Z06, along with stock supercharged Cobras. At 500whp you could outrun damn near anything on the road with the exception of a few well built cars.

Unless you have very deep pockets I would set your hopes on a more manageable power region.

No offense, but it really sounds like you have no idea what you are getting into.

[streetracer]

none taken.Alot of cars can take a Z06 just being stock.1 for example the dodge stealth puts out 300-320hp and 307-315tq and that is stock.I want to make my 240 to be able to go done a track in the low 10's high 9's.

[DRIFTEADOR]

^ not really, z06's are no joke. I don't know if a 300hp 240 can take one, doubt it, but i know a stock vr4 won't. z06 makes 400hp/400tq, and weighs about 700lbs less

[SSS]

A T70 isn't the best option for a street driven KA. It will operate way too close to the surge limit for my liking.

For example, the KA on 20psi (2.4 pressure ratio) will consume about 50lbs/min near 6000rpm; ie right in it's peak efficiency, but too near to the surge limit.

For street duty, it's definetly better used on a V8.

[WDRacing]

A simple TO4E will flow enough volume to support 700WHP depending on the trim you pick.

Are you building this car yourself or paying a shop to do it?

I agree with NismoFreak, the 240 is very fast when sitting at around 300whp. I walked a modded 96 Cobra badly with 8 psi of boost on a DIY build and a SAFCII.

[Nismo_Freak]

A simple TO4E will flow enough volume to support 700WHP depending on the trim you pick.

I don't think this is correct. The largest T04E I can pull up a map for is a 60-trim and it flows only about 50 - 52 lbs/min. tops and that is by no means 700WHP.

[WDRacing]

The E is supposed to be an R, and the TO4R will support that much.

[Nismo_Freak]

The E is supposed to be an R, and the TO4R will support that much.

Makes sense then.

[s13sr20chris]

A T70 isn't the best option for a street driven KA. It will operate way too close to the surge limit for my liking.

For example, the KA on 20psi (2.4 pressure ratio) will consume about 50lbs/min near 6000rpm; ie right in it's peak efficiency, but too near to the surge limit.

For street duty, it's definetly better used on a V8.

excellent point. this is where the dream should start.

[streetracer]

If you are tring to say that a Z06 weighs less than the 240 then u are wrong about that.

Z06=2-door convertible=3246lbs 2-door coupe=3245lbs

2-door hatchback=3212

The VR4=3200 lbs

240sx=2700lbs

Do the math. And I am building it my self.So it will be cheaper in my pocket on that part.
Modified by streetracer at 8:23 PM 5/30/2005

[shockload]

hey man what kind of mad tight cars have you built? you cant just all of the sudden wish you had a fast car and expect it to just happen it takes experience though some people catch on quickly. still even if you build it yourself i would expect 10 grand or more in parts and machine work, thats just the engine. i am sure with even 300whp you would want suspension tires maybe some 300zx brakes up front that will cost a few more bucks.

[95_240sx]

Mad tight? How old are you?

Rick

[C-Kwik]

If you are tring to say that a Z06 weighs less than the 240 then u are wrong about that.

Z06=2-door convertible=3246lbs 2-door coupe=3245lbs

2-door hatchback=3212

The VR4=3200 lbs

240sx=2700lbs

Do the math. And I am building it my self.So it will be cheaper in my pocket on that part.

He was referring to the Dodge Stealth. The 3000GT VR4 is in all essence, the same as a Stealth R/T. A 1993 VR4 weighs in at 3803 lbs according to Edmunds. A Base model which boasts only 222 HP weighs in at about 3200 lbs. No Stock Stealth/3000GT will beat a Z06 except maybe off the line. But the Z06 will be right on it's coattails and pass it up shortly after. You're comparing a 14 second car to a 12 second car. 2 seconds at over 100 mph is a pretty large gap.

And to be perfectly frank with you, if you have to ask if a T70 is a good match for this car, you probably are not ready to handle trying to squeeze out 500+HP out of a KA. You should really learn to understand turbos, motors, and their intracacies before you even consider it. Especially if you are going to be tackling this project yourself. If you're loking to extract that much usable power out of such a small motor(relative to power output), you really need to understand turbocharging concepts pretty comprehensively.

[streetracer]

The dodge stealth only weighs 3064. Thats what it say's on consumersguide.com But the hp was the same as edmunds

[C-Kwik]

The dodge stealth only weighs 3064. Thats what it say's on consumersguide.com But the hp was the same as edmunds

http://auto.consumerguide.com/...specs/

Interestingly, here is the consumer guide page you referenced. Keep in mind it does not specify which trim they are referring to. Each of the pages I post below shows you the year and trim level. The VR-4 and R/T turbos are very heavy due to their AWD drivetrain. Having driven a Stealth R/T Turbo, I can confirm they are not light at all. And these sites confirm it is indeed a 3800 lbs car.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/19...Dodge*

http://www.3kgt.com/dimensions.shtml

http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm