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What were some of the fitment difficulties that you may have come across when using either of these setups?

I can imagine that the T3 TM generates more heat because of the longer downpipe.?.?.?

Was is difficult to get IC piping onto the T25 BM? It looks like a tight fit.

Preferrably I'd like to keep my bends clean and a good inch from rattling on anything.


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hey man i think your the same guy who wants to buy my block. if so just email me your number and il get back to you.

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Everything is dependant on the kit used. But for the most part, everything fits the way it's supposed to. There is usually a need for some heat wrap or a shield on the MBC. But other then that...good to go.

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Yeah that's me... assuming youre the guy I emailed??? hehe

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WDRacing wrote:Everything is dependant on the kit used. But for the most part, everything fits the way it's supposed to. There is usually a need for some heat wrap or a shield on the MBC. But other then that...good to go.

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Most of the pictures I looked at onfirmed this. I was nervous about going with a T25 kit though because my plans are to eventually build into the 400s. This is a Daily Driver but my goal is a 10 second DD. (Go ahea and laugh I guess) I know 10 seconds on a T25 would not likely be a DD but fully stripped down.

Are there any bottom mount T3 manifolds that are production? (Not custom)

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10 second daily driver is hard man. It's going to require a bit of power and a lot of weight reduction. I consider myself to have one of the 'best' T2 setups and keep daily driveability. Which is arguable... But I have all the creature comforts. Power steering, A/C, wiper washers, full stereo with 2 amps and a single sub, etc etc.And I run low 12's with slicks with crappy track prep. Traps are about 119-120.

To get into the 10's, my suggestion is to get an automatic transmission. I personally think switching gears in a manual in a drag car is inefficient. You will loose a good amount of time switching gears.

I really don't know what your goals are. I'm just trying to show you both sides of the road with the information I know.

Here's a calculator that I use sometimes to try and figure stuff out. The drag racing part of it is down, just scroll a bit. http://www.golenengineservice.....htmlBut the guy who owns the site is local, and used to build motors here on the base as a private contractor. The guy knows his stuff, and I've always hoped he wouldn't put a bogus 'calculator' on his site...

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I don't plan on losing any comfort items except for maybe the Power steering. I may just consider a relocation of the PS depending on the turbo setup.

I think 12s is my likely goal to achieve by Fall with the investment I have available. 10s is something I's be shooting for by next summer.

I assume that 10s on a T2 is just not likely?

I wish I'd say I'd done more research on drag in this car but it seems like most of what I keep finding is drift related.

SO... I should state then that my current goal is not 10s... it's low 12s with as little engine work as possible. In fact I'd like to see what kind of times I could pull on a fully stock long block.

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GODCHSR wrote:SO... I should state then that my current goal is not 10s... it's low 12s with as little engine work as possible . In fact I'd like to see what kind of times I could pull on a fully stock long block .


I don't think you are talking about a daily driver anymore. Reliability will be questionable with a stock block and that much power. Unless you go stand-alone and get someone who really knows their stuff about tuning. At least replace the headgasket with a FelPro or something.

That's just my $.02. I'm just trying to point stuff out for you. Not trying to be negative at all.

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10.9s can be done with 400whp and some fat soft drag radials. Not that far of a leap at all for a daily. Although you aren't going to do it with anything T2 related...unless you have two of them...heh.

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eazye2000 wrote:

I don't think you are talking about a daily driver anymore. Reliability will be questionable with a stock block and that much power. Unless you go stand-alone and get someone who really knows their stuff about tuning. At least replace the headgasket with a FelPro or something.

That's just my $.02. I'm just trying to point stuff out for you. Not trying to be negative at all.
I appreciate all types of advice, critical or not.

A 12 second daily I am 100% sure I can get on a stock block.

The 10s... ehhh let's say hat's why i am buying and building a second block from the guy up there in post 2 or 3 I think...I figure I want to SERIOUSLY push the stock block once that secondary 8.5:1 block is built. I have no idea what stock blockers can or have done but I'm going to find out! hehehe

Honestly I don't have any real belief that a 10 second car can be had on a stock block, and it's not really my goal but to me the stock block is worth a couple hundred dollars and if I trash it before I pull it out that's entirely fine by me.

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WDRacing wrote:10.9s can be done with 400whp and some fat soft drag radials. Not that far of a leap at all for a daily. Although you aren't going to do it with anything T2 related...unless you have two of them...heh.
I don't think so either considering even the 300zx was hardly able to pull 10s on stock Twins. I think there was only a handful (if that) that got into the tens on stock blocks and turbos combined.

Obviously we've got a slight weight advantage (hahaha) more like 550 lb lighter! (or 800lbs for the 2+2)

So I figure if they can I have a shot... allbeit not a very good one. I think a light strong drivetrain could add a lot of potential.I'm looking at 1 piece aluminum shaft hooked into a Z32 NA LSD... obviously a light flywheel and strong clutch too.

All that aside though:If I simply did go with a T3 setup are there any manufacturers with a bottom mount T3???I have not seen one yet but I don't know all the KAT vendors yet either.

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Um if your still interested email me to the adress from craiglsit and well go from there.

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I just gotta find a truck from someone.


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