t3

[corey240]

hey i am wondering if a t3-t4 turbo would be ok for a daily driver?its an xs power specs....

3" inlet

50 A/R COMPRESSOR

.63 A/R TURBINE

.57 TRIM

[corey240]

anybody? please?

[Dori Dori]

Yes.

[corey240]

thanks i was wondering because i was gona buy a gt28rs but i figured i could just get this turbo real cheap! now what all is needed to install this turbo? or will it just bolt right on?

[mackdaddy240]

Not bad turbos but I'm pretty sure a gt28rs will give you a little more power and a faster spool..... not totally sure but thats what I've heard.

[S14Life]

lol maybe you should stick with what you have before you go on upgrading to a larger turbo since you don't even know how to install it...

just a thought

[corey240]

yea it was also just a thought your an idiot

[Dori Dori]

Not bad turbos but I'm pretty sure a gt28rs will give you a little more power and a faster spool..... not totally sure but thats what I've heard.

No that's wrong. Spool sucks on GT28rs's (considering their size) and he'd definitely get better power on that t3/t4.

thanks i was wondering because i was gona buy a gt28rs but i figured i could just get this turbo real cheap! now what all is needed to install this turbo? or will it just bolt right on?

No, that turbo won't just bolt on. You will need a new manifold, downpipe, itake piping, intercooler piping, oil lines, misc gaskets, and something to tune with (but that goes without saying).

What are your power goals and what is your budget?

[mackdaddy240]

Yeah, Depends what T3 your talking about.the gt I was looking at has TURBINE SPECS: T25.86 A/R HOUSING76 TRIM 54mm GT SERIES WHEELCOMPRESSOR SPECS: TO4b HOUSING.60 A/R HOUSING62 TRIMCOMPRESSOR FLOW: 35 LBS/MIN

T3/T04ECOMPRESSOR SPECS:flow: 53 lbs/min 678cfm.60 A/R HOUSING60 TRIM WHEELTURBINE SPECS:.82 A/R HOUSING

And the GT series have better bearings so it helps spool faster correct?

[mackdaddy240]

I didnt pay close enough attention. Different turbos

[Dori Dori]

GT28rs = disco potatoe = mismatch that doesn't work well and spools too slow.

That T3/T4 should spool just as fast and will definitely make more power.

Is that one of those ebay t3/t4's though...just realized that. Anybody ever try out or test one of these ebay specials?

[corey240]

nope its form a guy on drift411. im looking for ATLEAST 300 max 400 like i say max as in if i ever decide to get supporting mods for 400 as i know all i need is some injectors and z32 mafs right now to get around 300 with another turbo.

[Dori Dori]

Actually it is a cheap ebay turbo. Quality = unknown. Don't buy it unless you're a risk taker.

[corey240]

not being a samrt a** or anything but just making shore. this turbo....

http://www.solid-performance.c...d=472

is really an ebay cheaper but just not on ebay correct?

[Dori Dori]

That's it! They are the SS autochrome of turbos. They might even be the same company. FWIW, I have a friend with one installed on his KA and it works fine. We had some wastegate issues but they were resolved. There are a few threads across the web about premature failure though. Could be BS from haters...never know. Don't confuse xs-power with XS-Engineering.

[namwons_240]

yep...ssac used xs-power turbos so id be hesitant

[corey240]

ok thanks everyone i just wanted to clear that one up. i guess im off to search for a few days on the 300-400hp turbo for cheap!

[Dori Dori]

Well, like I said, my buddy runs one with NO problems. The wastegate that came with the kit was fine too but the spring's colors didn't match the reported weight so we were hitting waaaay too much boost on the first couple test runs. As far as cheap 350-400 goes, there's really no such thing if you want "reliability" too. The SSauto packagages are about as cheap as you can get but the integrity of the manifolds is questionable since they seem to crack all the time. You'll need to run a lot of boost for those numbers too unless you also replace your cams and intake mani. Cheap and 400whp really don't go together. A more realistic goal should be 325 - 350.

Have you ever ridden in a 325-350whp s-chassis? If not, I suggest you do before you settle on 350-400whp. They are very fast and fun for a street car.

[pampadori]

not sure but that turbo pictured looks like a straight t3. a 57trim t04e wheel certaintly will NOT spool like a gt28rs. the gt28rs will spool faster, and its not a mixmatch of wheels. it is a s14 t28 with a slightly larger compressor. 4lbs/min more then the t28.

the t3 and t3/t04 turbos all have a larger inlet flange then what your exh manifold has, so no, they will not bolt on.

i have heard about these chinese turbos (xs power, pretty much all the cheapos) are questionable. housings coming apart and stuff. but others are saying they are ok. can someone comment on whether they are really garrett centers and wheels?

[Dori Dori]

You're wrong.

A GT28rs is a disco potato and uses the ns111 turbine (just like the gt2871r) which a s14 turbo certainly does not. Not a s14 turbo at all. It is a mismatch. And it does spool slow (compared to a GT2871r which flows more). I could have sworn that it spooled slower than a t3/t4 but I was wrong...checked out some dynos and the t3/t4 makes slightly less at 4grand.

[oneslow240se]

i was looking at a t3/4 set aswell and someone directed me to a adapter that is t2 to t3 so you can use your stock mani and t3/4 turbo of course you would need custom your dp and piping.... i'm considering this route as an alternative to the very pricy gt28's... they have this adapter on ebay by XS i think i've searched and havent found too much info on this...

[namwons_240]

with the adapter a t3-t4 would not fit on an sr20det or ka24det...the turbo would hit the motor mount.

[pampadori]

You're right. not a ns111 in the s14 t28. but i don't see how the gt28rs is missmatched. the gt2871r compressor wheel is too big for the ns111 if you ask me. the ns111 is what limits its power potential. the 71mm wheel flows 44lbs/min. gt2871r should put down 440whp, i haven't seen one yet. i do love the turbo though, and i think the gt28rs is too small. but thats my opinion.

[corey240]

iv decided to get the stage 2 kit from jgy customs. it would suit my needs just fine. any ever used?