t3/t04E turbo on a ca powered s13

[ca18hatch]

Hey guys, my buddy has offered to sell me a t3/t04E turbo for like 200 bucks. Sounds like a good deal to me, seeing as how I have the stock t25 right now. Anybody on here using this turbo? Just wondering what all has to be modified to make this turbo work. Also, will this turbo be extremely laggy on the ca? I dont mind a little bit of spool time if Im putting down 350+hp.

[Masterdebater]

im trying to run my t3/t4 garrett too lol. ull need a new manifold,wastegate,downpipe,oil lines,hot pipe and maybe intake pipe...

[r34 gtr]

Ask TMS, he's got a kit for sale right now. Its a real t04e and not a hybrid though.

[themadscientist]

stupid fast response. IMO too fast, I need upper range power not quick response. I don't like hybrid turbos, the T4 turbine is easily driven by a CA and has more leverage on the shaft with the larger wheel than the T3. The turbine in my sig for the RB was originally on a CA18 to give you some idea of the kind of screw you can run on the CA. It was on a motor with HKS 256/264 cam set and very streetable.

[tom@ica]

im trying to run my t3/t4 garrett too lol. ull need a new manifold,wastegate,downpipe,oil lines,hot pipe and maybe intake pipe...

+ more fuel and tune

[ca18hatch]

what type of power numbers can be expected with this turbo?will this turbo yield more power than a gt28rs, because thats the other turbo Im looking at. Also, will the t3/t4 require alot of exhaust side fab work? TMS, what did you have to do to get this turbo to fit? Will it clear the sttering linkage, etc?

[Masterdebater]

thanks tom and also a flux capacitor. no turbo will spool without one...

[themadscientist]

what type of power numbers can be expected with this turbo?will this turbo yield more power than a gt28rs, because thats the other turbo Im looking at. Also, will the t3/t4 require alot of exhaust side fab work? TMS, what did you have to do to get this turbo to fit? Will it clear the sttering linkage, etc?

I had no problem because my car is RHD. I honestly don't know if the HKS kit will hit the steering on a 240SX. I posted some pics from various angles you can use as a point of reference. I don't have a LHD car to test fit it on.The T04E should get you into high 300, low 400hp range, the compressor on the T300S is capable of over 500hp

[r34 gtr]

Man, HKS rates their t04e for something like 550hp. Regardless itll be a better turbo than the gt28xx as far as peak power is concerned.

[themadscientist]

It may well do that but a "T04E" can be several different turbos. It depends on the trim, mine is 50 trim.

[r34 gtr]

Looking at the compressor map on the 50 trim t04e it seems it could make a crap ton of power. http://www.pagparts.com/Garret...0trim check out that compressor map, its pretty stout.

[themadscientist]

That's mine. That map suggests 400+ is very attainable. It drops off pretty steeply after that. 400 is nothing to sneeze at, that's talking to most guys at the stoplight or on the highway unless they are in a GNX or a Viper.

[dash]

I posted a link to miata 1.8L with a 50trim t3/t4 dyno'd 493hp at the tires with stock cams & 29psi.Added only an intake cam, dyno'd 538 with no other changesGood recipee for a hot ca18

[r34 gtr]

Hells yeah. Sounds like quite the weapon of choice to me. Also, I really want a GNX.

[ca18hatch]

The turbo I am looking at getting is the hybrid t3/t04E with a 60 trim. Should spool a little faster than a t04 and still get me close to the 375-400 range correct? The turbo is a knock off, not a true garrett, but my buddy is running the exact same turbo on his ranger with the 2.3 turbo engine from a mustang. Hes been running it at 21 pounds for quite some time now, still no shaft play. He has an extra turbo laying around, its brand new, selling it to me for 200 bucks. I figure its worth a shot for that cheap. Im just worried about fitment issues. I would really like to find someone running this setup on a LHD s13.

[r34 gtr]

Just get a ssac t3 manifold and reinforce it. It should fit the LHD chassis fine. If you dont want to do that you could always make one or have one made.

[boost_boy]

The turbo I am looking at getting is the hybrid t3/t04E with a 60 trim. Should spool a little faster than a t04 and still get me close to the 375-400 range correct? The turbo is a knock off, not a true garrett, but my buddy is running the exact same turbo on his ranger with the 2.3 turbo engine from a mustang. Hes been running it at 21 pounds for quite some time now, still no shaft play. He has an extra turbo laying around, its brand new, selling it to me for 200 bucks. I figure its worth a shot for that cheap. Im just worried about fitment issues. I would really like to find someone running this setup on a LHD s13.

Just make sure you really upgrade your fuel system. A t3/t? will out flow your stock engine management system faster than you can breathe and this will result in melted pistons and/or cracked ringlands. Any T3/T? on a CA whether it is stock or cammed will not reach full boost before 4400rpm; no matter what you do. I'm the horse and the guinnea pig, now that you've heard it, take heed to it .

Dee

[r34 gtr]

You could always spool it with nitrous.

[boost_boy]

You could always spool it with nitrous.

Under 4000rpm? Hmm, sounds like a blown motor waiting to happen, but what in the hell do I know.

Dee

[themadscientist]

Man people need to quit worrying about spool up. These turbos scream up to boost. No kinda, no reasonable. As 4k comes on the turbo wakes up and full boost is in in a blink of an eye. +1 for what Dee said, I am pulling my motor for a blown HG from leaning out on the stock injectors at a paltry 7psi.

[themadscientist]

Dee, thoughts. 2 liter CA. 264/9.5 cams and twin TD05H18G turbos with 8cm housings.will they spin?

[r34 gtr]

try the 7mm housings, they should still be good for 400hp a piece and will spool much quicker... but even then the wait would be large.

[themadscientist]

I could get 6cm housings but the price of buying them precludes that. $1000.00, **** you Greddy!

[r34 gtr]

F that. get some clapped out mitsubishi (i know they are all mitsu, but i mean not trust/greddy) brand turbos and have them rebuilt. I dont have a two liter CA....thing... so who knows, maybe this thing will spool turbos like it was its job. 8cm seems way too big to me though.

[boost_boy]

Dee, thoughts. 2 liter CA. 264/9.5 cams and twin TD05H18G turbos with 8cm housings.will they spin?

You'd pull this off nicely using 16g units if you're just looking for originality and craftsmanship. I've been watching the forums and have been paying attention to the direction you're heading and I like it, but don't complicate your life with the TT set-up. Go find you a GT3582/35R and you will be sending me flowers after your first hard drive .

Seriously though, the CA is a little pansy motor that don't care for little turbos that much. It seems to like the big ones and for the little boost whore that she is, she handles the big ones very well. I've whacked on different size blowers on customers cars including my own and none quite catch my attention like the GT35R. I've compared it to my sneaky 60-1 hybrid and the 35R kills it when it comes to transitioning between shifts. But I won't slam the old T3/T04E hybrid unit, at 15psi, my little wrecked sentra is still a very sick puppy as those that have come to Miami and seen it first hand have witnessed.

On a side note, I took the car to the 1/8mile track for a final run before I have to dismantle it and I'll tell you, that little tramp smoked an '07 porsche and an SR20DET powered S13 before my woman said she had enough and was ready to go. Unfortunately the video tape was corrupt and it didn't come out to good or else I would've given you guys a treat. This CA18 gets it's 8500rpm dumps and sees as much 22psi on pump gas which totally rediculous in a FWD car, but have also been proven to be rediculous in some of the RWD projects I've done as well. Knock on wood, no engines blown to date once I got the chance to tune them.

Dee

[r34 gtr]

The GT35R is nobody's ***** when it comes to making power. Ive seen plenty of cars make entirely too much power using that turbo. I think we have covered it being pointless to twin turbo a CA in any form. It would be good for a laugh though!

[dash]

A DSM turbo is clocked perfectly for bottom mount on a ca18.18G/td05 from forcedperformance.net costs ~$450Even the $500 evoIII 16g is an excellent match & 400+whp ~28+psi proven