t3 5 bolt turbo outlet downpipe for internal wastegate set ups

[White Comet]

alright this may be kinda confusing, but i'm looking for a downpipe for a t3 5 bolt turbo outlet that can still utilize an internal wastegate. so far everything i've found is for external wg set ups like thishttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1318i want something like this that doesnt block off the internal wghttp://www.phase2motortrend.com/cisp3sttuels.html

i really don't car what application its for since i plan on cutting it and welding it to fit. so if anybody knows of anything what i'm looking for i'd appreciate the help.

[heartofaskyline]

why not just get a universal flange and make your own?

[heartofaskyline]

or get this

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/r...5.htm

[White Comet]

i'm not sure i follow, i plan on making my own dp, but i don't have the equipment to flare piping out into this shapehttp://www.godspeedproject.com...9.jpgand then taper it into 3" piping.

[White Comet]

or get this

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/r...5.htm

because it's $170 just for the adapter/ i thought about going v band and if i do i'd do thishttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...17877

but i'd prefer to just have a one piece dp instead of messing with adapters and plates that could leak. thanks for the ideas though

[heartofaskyline]

man, v-band is great. it doesnt leak, and its super easy to switch out. holset turbo's, witch came on dodge deisels, have a stock 5 bolt to vband adapter, its cast and looks great, you could give it a shot? prob cheaper than 170

[Bumnah]

I see that $50 ebay piece making issues. You get what you pay for.

Why do you want to run an internal gate so badly? I doubt you have emissions in your area. Run a standard flange and make a simple down pipe for the turbo. Run an external waste gate, and run an open dump pipe. External waste gates have better response than the internal counter parts. Plus, an open down pipe sounds pretty bad a**.

[White Comet]

I see that $50 ebay piece making issues. You get what you pay for.

Why do you want to run an internal gate so badly? I doubt you have emissions in your area. Run a standard flange and make a simple down pipe for the turbo. Run an external waste gate, and run an open dump pipe. External waste gates have better response than the internal counter parts. Plus, an open down pipe sounds pretty bad a**.

yeah im not a huge fan of any adapter even if its not ebay, the more pieces the more chances in general to leak or cause problems. i will admit i'm pretty stubborn about keeping the internal wg, but i think i have good reasoning. for starters, i won't be pushing that turbo hard even at my ideal hp goals so i don't think i have to worry about boost creep and the wg not being enough, secondly, while i don't have to go through emissions in the regular sense i do have to have a visual inspection and an open dump pipe would be pretty obvious, and lastly is the price, i don't want to cheap out and get an external wg that will fail anyways and the legit ones are approx $300. the flange itself to make it work wouldn't be terrible, but i just don't want to shell out for something that isn't necessary for this setup.

[brizanden]

or get this

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/r...5.htm

jeff i think this is your best bet. dont be a cheap skate.

[mrgreeneyes]

lol "budget" turbo build.

[White Comet]

lol "budget" turbo build.

just wait and see

jeff i think this is your best bet. dont be a cheap skate.

i'm not being a cheapskate, shich is why i'm not going with the ebay pieces, but for $170 just for the adpater its retarded. for that price i'm gonna pick up a used tial 38mm and block off the wg hole.

[j-z]

look into a svo turbo mustang outlet pipe.... thats what i ran on my lude back in highschool.... should be able to find one cheap, or see what those guys upgrade to....

[mrgreeneyes]

just wait and see

lol, at this rate, my SR will be running before yours....

[j-z]

heres a pic... as you can see i welded the flapper whole on the exhaust housing shut, and ran an external wg. i tried google, but nothing.

heres one from wayyyyyyy back in the day (my first project).


Modified by j-z at 7:52 PM 5/16/2009

[Logan76]

I can't read.
Modified by Logan76 at 9:51 PM 5/16/2009

[White Comet]

lol, at this rate, my SR will be running before yours....

why the hate

[j-z]

Nice turbo LS, but I think he wants a way to stay internal, where as you went external with that.

lol.... its an h23 in a 4th gen lude. i even said lude in my previous post. anyways, that turbo stock is internal. i just welded up the holes on the exhaust housing shut.

and wtf WC.... you want power, but yet you want to stay internal gated??? that just now crossed my mind. i mean sure, you already have all the shlt for it right there. you can find a used tial for 150, and two wg flanges wont cost you but $20.... whats the deal??

[White Comet]

sorry for the confusion when i was talking to logan, i decided to go external last night. it'll be unnecessary though because i don't plan on maxing out this turbo so i'm certain the stock internal wg would be fine.

[mrgreeneyes]

why the hate

not so much hate, as confusion. multiple threads about twinscrolls, log mani's, and outlets...

you normally research things pretty indepth, but this latest slew of stuff seems strange for you. its mostly afterthoughts/last minute stuff.

im confused as to why you would want a huge turbo w/out an IMMEDIATE tune/injectors/big maf/clutch upgrade. i wont argue the merits of your manifold, as they are justifiable, but the lack of other supporting mods has me wondering...

i genuinely hope this whole endeavor works out well for you, altho i bet your dad is gonna be pissed when he realizes how much longer this will all take to do.

again, more power to ya, please think this all out.

[White Comet]

no its all good man and i hear ya. the twin scroll log manifold question was just to get some feedback since i hadn't found any good information on the subject, which would have played a factor into whether or not i got it, but when i got there i was happy to see it had a standard t3 flange. the question in this thread was an after thought since the wastgate flapper sits flush on the gt30

unlike other turbos that has the flapper sitting in a littlehttp://www.atpturbo.com/Mercha...2.jpg

but that problem is easily solved with an external wastegate. i had researched how i want to do this sufficiently before purchasing the turbo, i just had not accounted for the flapper being flush and not sunken in.

i do plan on getting a tune asap but i just mentioned that my funds will be too depleted to do so right away, so for a few weeks i'll be tuneless. i will however have a nismo fpr to bump fuel up since i'm not totally stupid. at low boost with raised fuel i know i'll be fine for a short period, so that isnt an issue. as for my dad, the deadline is june 20th i hope to have it finished sooner. with school being out i have much more time and i have the parts i need one the way to fab the manifold, etc