joe603 wrote:NEVER, NEVER go under a car with the OEM jack!!!!!!!
Oh, most definitely agreed! . I have a hydraulic jack that is way better. But, even then, it is only used to raise the cars to rotate tires. In theory, I could use jack stands to support the car to get under it, but I don't like those either. My imagination runs wild as to what could happen if the jack failed or a mild earthquake rocked the car off. A lift is way safer, since you have, in theory, a few more seconds to get out of the way of a car falling off a lift.
I'd like to do my own oil change to make sure that everything is done right, and also to teach my son, etc., so a ramp is probably the way I would do it for sure (like Gimli G35 mentioned). But, given that the local shops charge me $10 to $12 (depending on the place I go) for the work, and they deal with the used oil and filter too, it has been far simpler to be lazy!
Z