swaybars drift??

[2.240s]

whats a good swaybar set up i own a 89 hatch and a 95 ,some run no frnt bar ,thicker on rear etc..tanabe,whiteline . adjustable. any info???for drift use.

[naed240sx]

Alot of it is personal preferance. Some just get coilovers and find that they dont really need new bars because body roll is already decreased by so much. Depends on how you want the handling. stiffer in rear will cause more oversteer, stiffer in front will cause more understeer. suspension techniques has one of the best deals on a front and rear kit, and whiteline are adjustable, which is a good feature. Both are quality bars. I was gonna go with S/T, but im gonna wait untill my kts coilovers come in, then figure out what I wanna do. I think im just gonna go with a hicas rear bar and keep the stock front one.

[2.240s]

Sound good where is a good place to buy a hiacs rear bar,junk yard,ebay etc..??

[Liquidus]

Really you should get sway bars, there shouldn't be anyone who just gets coilovers and doesn't need sway bars. Setting the coilovers to stiffer will not only affect cornering, but also braking and accelerating. Too stiff could cause some problems. Sway bars make the suspension stiffer only when cornering, without affecting anything else. However, the stock front bar on the S13 240 is huge, so i'd just get a different rear one, which is what i did.

Don't run without front bar, very bad and hard to drive.

[sdtouge]

lots of people in japan dont get sway bars.they feel its a band daid for weak spring rates.

if you have nice stiff coilvoers then save for soemthing else.

whitelines have porrr ground cleanearence, tanabe is huge! and hollow, less un sprung weight:)

[DriftFactory]

I've always favored a Cusco 18mm rear bar with stock front. That works well for me. but it really is up to you and what you think feels right.

[Liquidus]

lots of people in japan dont get sway bars.they feel its a band daid for weak spring rates.

Its not a very good idea, but you don't have to take my word for it. F1 cars have sway bars. Trust me if they could make up for them by having stiffer springs they would get rid of them to lower unsprung weight. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, i'm just saying trust me, they are very valuable.

[sdtouge]

im saying if you already have decent coilovers, there are better things you can do with your money.

if someone were to give me a good deal or soemthing on sway bars i would take them, dont get me wrong...

[Liquidus]

Yeah, but a rear bar costs what $150-$200. There isn't much that will make a bigger improvement for the same or less money.

[hatebobbarker]

broke my front swaybar a while back, and it was fine. easier to drift, but i ended up getting too much bodyroll so i was glad when i got my new one on, just replaced it with stock, the stock ones are fine.but every car is different.

[santi]

^^ i broke my linkage to one and it would come out way too easy.. felt like i was drifting slower too..

[sdtouge]

why would you only upgrade the rear one though? you could get vlsd,, rucas, tike rods, a used seat. (i got mine bran new from sparco for 100$)

[574-240sx]

I upgraded to coilovers recently and decided I need new sway bars. I guess you upgrade one thing and find your next weak spot. So the rear Hicas sway is going this winter. I guess I will continue to save for some Largus sways.

[InsanityInc]

lots of people in japan dont get sway bars.they feel its a band daid for weak spring rates.

if you have nice stiff coilvoers then save for soemthing else.

Then a lot of people in Japan are idiots. You can very easily tune your suspension with sway bars, especially considering sway bars are 99% of the time the place where manufacturers build understeer into the car. The 240 is a prime example of this, it has a 24mm front bar and a 14mm rear bar (17mm on HICAS models). Upgrading that to a 20-22mm rear bar will make the car much more neutral.

[sdtouge]

if you knew how to initiate at all, you wouldnt have to buy a sway bbar so you dont get understeer.

[SHIFTrl240]

its not just the size of the sway, its the material.. stock is heavy and hollow and seemed like it was made of iron it was so clunky

i got front and rear sways a while back and put on one at a time... the front one in size was about equal to stock, but boy did it make a difference on a stock 240. turn in was increased greatly. after the rear went on it slid around much better also

[2.240s]

thanx 4 info ,what kind of bars did u go with ? adjustable? what size?

[j-z]

the first thing i ever bought for my car were d2 coilovers. i thought it handled pretty good with just those on it. after one auto-x event i bought a set of suspension techniques sways. damn, best fuking investment ever. these made my car have go-kart like handling. i highly highly recommend after market bars to anyone who drives aggressive. at $280 for both bars, with all new polyurathane bushings and hardware, youre a fool not to buy.

[IntensePower.com]

My 2 cents.

Matt hit it pretty good on the head, but thats just a start.

I've run cars with factory sway bars and coilovers, upgraded sway bars no coilovers, upgraded non adjustable swaybars and coilovers and upgraded adjustable swaybars and coilovers.

The difference between a stock car with upgraded sways and a car with stock sways and just coilovers is night and day. A good set of coilovers is going to make more difference than just about anything you can do to the car suspensionwise. However, once you get to the point where you want the car to act differently, adjustable swaybars come in incredibly handy for the fine tuning of the handling characteristics. Now, I'm not going to get too indepth right now on the other allignment associated parts, but really all the fine tuning you could want can be accomplished with the swaybars until you're at a very high level of skill....once you get to the advanced-intermediate to advanced skill levels (highspeed 3rd gear initiations/sustain 3rd gear) look to allignment to make the car do what you want....

one of these days i'll get around to writing up a brief explanation of what everything in your suspension settings will change...

[spec-u-later]

Summitracing .com has the best prices on ST sways I've seen. 119 for the rear and 125 for the front. Oh and 235 for both. I have just the rear with my Megan coilovers and that thing is flatter than a bisch on a big wheel. BTW a good bushing kit like whitline's will have your car feeling razer sharp again.

[voltron]

if you knew how to initiate at all, you wouldnt have to buy a sway bbar so you dont get understeer.

WTF are you talking about? Different cars, different setups, different drivers. Just because you are the best drifter who ever lived and can slide any car like the best D1 pro no matter what doesn't mean you have a clue about what you are saying.

Swaybars and coilovers do very different things. I put in a set of Whiteline adjustable bars existence and wow they are an essential part of my LIFE and very existence. In a nut shell stiffer swaybars in the rear makes for more oversteer, stiffer in the front makes for more understeer. The key is to balance the effects of the front and rear for a neutral handling car. Fine tuning ( why I like adjustable ) will allow for differences in car setup, driver style and preference. Doing something like taking out the front bar all together will make the car slide more easily but you will loose high speed stability, speed of transition, and feel and response from the steering. If you don't have mega bux to spend on pricey sway bars simple things like swapping out the factory bushings in the rear for hard ( urethane or metal ) often will make a big enough difference that you can be happy with it for a while. It's an old autoxers technique. I personally balance as your goal. Having an oversteer prone setup is great for low speed drift practice and beginners first day, but after that too much oversteer will seriously hamper your learning curve.

[Grip Gambler]

Larugs hands down best swaybars on the market

[John Holmes]

Stock sways are small in diamiter and not so stiff. I have the White Line adjustable sawys and they decrease body roll dramaticaly. But they are expensive. Never had any problems with ground clearance and my car is lowered on coilovers.

[turbo_lover]

Okay, okay, okay. The answer is eBaY ! lol they are cheap. you dont have to get retail stuff. i would prefer them. Makes cars stiffer and less body roll = a thumbs up for barz.

[mmm240]

flatter than a bisch on a big wheel.you quoted ICP, ha! thats awesome

[574-240sx]

Larugs hands down best swaybars on the market

HAHA. Jesse, Largus bars are expensive, even poor drifters have to save for them.
Modified by 574-240sx at 4:22 AM 9/29/2005

[GripR]

don't forget bushings guys, day and night i tell ya...

[slidindownhill]

whats are ppls preferance?

[eDmSiL80]

i dont run sways bars....

i just have a lot of suspension parts, and i still drift fine...

[Joe]

if you knew how to initiate at all, you wouldnt have to buy a sway bbar so you dont get understeer.

um a sway bar still helps reduce roll of the car when under a heavy cornering load (yes, that includes drifting)