Swap/Transmission issue/s

[EludeR]

I was on my way to tampa today (1hr drive in rush hour) after i finished the swap , and the car drove flawlessly . On my way back , i was stopped at a gas station (following my brother and waiting for him to pump gas) and i pull out and wait behind him so he can make his turn , i slip it in first grind , 2nd grind , then i put it in neutral , pop it in 1st, grind is gone (WTF). Same thing happens at a few stop signs on my way home. Was just wondering if you guys have ever experienced anything like this , or what you may think the problem will be. (Or if this is attributed to the transmission sitting for so long ). Also i did not know where to run the 3 vacum lines that are on the intake manifold , 2 on top of the throttle body and 1 on the bottom, so i ran the one on the top right to the FPR , and the one on the left was tee'd to the wastegate actuator and bypass valve. And the one on the bottom was capped off. (Like i was instructed to by phase2)

[EludeR]

Does anybody think a faulty clutch master/slave cylinder would be the culprit to this problem?

[Morph]

How did your clutch look or did u replace it?

[EludeR]

How did your clutch look or did u replace it?

It was replaced along with the flywheel with a new exedy hyper single kit.

[VitaminT]

How does the pedal feel when you let the clutch out? Does it just start to grip at the top, or does it start to grip RIGHT off the floor.

Did you open the clutch line (i.e. replace the slave or master) when doing the swap? Almost sounds like air in the loop dampner/line.

[EludeR]

How does the pedal feel when you let the clutch out? Does it just start to grip at the top, or does it start to grip RIGHT off the floor.

Did you open the clutch line (i.e. replace the slave or master) when doing the swap? Almost sounds like air in the loop dampner/line.

The pedal is stiff , the clutch grips way at the top. Pedal pressure feels fine, i may want to note that when i push on the slave by hand , it has very little resistance and doesn't return back quickly , infact yesterday when i did that , it returned back slowly then stuck for a second , then returned back. But i had someone depress the clutch while i felt to see what the slave was doing (if it was moving the fork properly) and it seemed like it was. And no i did not replace the slave or master cylinder , i just simply disconnected the slave from the KA transmission and bolted the SR in and then bolted the slave on (trying to get away with the hole bleeding the clutch thing) . Do you think that the added pressure required to engage the much stiffer exedy pressure plate may have the 15 year old slave (with nearly 200k miles on it stressing). The slave does look like it's fairly used , it is a bit rusty on the outside , and yesterday morning when i went to the shop to check everything out, it was very low on clutch fluid. I filled it back up drove it home and it only gave me that problem once heh. Yesterday night i was going to take it around the block to see how it is , the car went into reverse easily , getting it into 1st was another story. It wouldn't go in , so i sat their pumping hte clutch (while in neutral because it didn't want to get into gear) then i held it down put it in 1st with no problems and pulled it back into the driveway). It's just driving me crazy, could the seals inside the slave be giving out and not holding pressure while the engine is running and more resistance is placed on it ? ?But for the mean time i purchased a new clutch master/slave cylinder , and will be replacing it tuesday morning along with my earls braided clutch line (till then the car is going to sit). P.S. other then this issue the car runs flawlessly and sounds awesome (open downpipe) wich is killing me because i cannot drive it due to this problem
Modified by EludeR at 6:57 AM 7/3/2005

[EludeR]

anyone ?

[EludeR]

Well i went outside to go check my fluid level again (looks pretty much normal). Except this time i pressed on my slave cylinder by hand and it squirted out a bit of fluid (not alot) but it definetely did squirt out some fluid. And it returned back to position slowly and stuck then returned again , so i'd assume that this is the problem ?

[Hijacker]

if the slave is leaking fluid, even a tiny amount, it needs to be replaced. Slaves are cheap as can be, also. And since you'll be cracking the hydrolic system open, go ahead and do the clutch master. In my experience, it doesn't take long for the clutch master to go after the clutch slave starts going.

[EludeR]

if the slave is leaking fluid, even a tiny amount, it needs to be replaced. Slaves are cheap as can be, also. And since you'll be cracking the hydrolic system open, go ahead and do the clutch master. In my experience, it doesn't take long for the clutch master to go after the clutch slave starts going.

Thanks , just the kind of reassuring opinion i was looking for . I already purchased both parts and will be replacing them tomorrow morning.

[EludeR]

Well the slave was already changed. and it still does this same problem , the car holds pedal pressur ealright , i really don't think it has to do with the hydraulics , and it's more or less something inside the transmisison , becuase it does this while i'am in gear too ... i believe it maybe a pilot bearing , or the throwout bearing (but i suspect the pilot bearing more because it was not replaced)

[EludeR]

Well both the clutch master and slave cylinders where replaced , but still the same problem , and under more careful observation it happens while the car is ALREADY in gear .... and i come to accelerate (let off the clutch and give it some gas) , it will move a little then start to whirrr and grind..... put it in neutral (maybe a little stubborn to go back into gear) then it will get back in eventually .... what gives ? this thing has been driving me crazy all day.

[EludeR]

anyone ?

[NY S13 SR]

i may want to note that when i push on the slave by hand , it has very little resistance and doesn't return back quickly

i had someone depress the clutch while i felt to see what the slave was doing (if it was moving the fork properly) and it seemed like it was.

If you can move the fork by hand something is probably wrong inside. The slave should push up against the fork very tightly - is should not be easy to move the fork with your fingers, and if someone else pushes the clutch pedal in, the fork should push the TO bearing up against the pressure plate fingers - that should be tight the whole way.

Maybe you have the wrong TO bearing, or it is installed wrong, or the wrong pressure plate, or maybe the pivot under the fork broke off.

Unfortunately it sounds to me like the trans has to come off.

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[EludeR]

Well i took the car to a local shop this morning (to someone that is more accustomed with SR's) and he pointed out that the engine was out of a automatic car . And he asked me if i changed out the silverish looking piece that is in place of where the pilot bushing is supposed to be (wich is a carrier bearing for the autos i believe ?) . And i'am almost 90% certain this piece was still on their because we did not replace the pilot bushing ... and it did look like a silverish/steel piece as opposed to the bronzeish pilot bushing. So to make a long story short he's saying that my input shaft is bouncing around and causing way inconsistent clutch action (the car will move when it whirr's/grinds like the clutch isn't engaged). Do you guys think this will cause this ? or maybe a inccorectly installed throwout bearing. I'am going to be taking the car to a local shop monday morning to have them fix/diagnose this problem.