swap!

[dRiLstar]

im drivin a 1990 nissan 240sx automatic with a single and by this summer it should be manual if i find the right price for a nice motor and transmission.. i dont want nothing too fast i want something running like low 15's or high 15's i just want all motor do so i can kill all these hondas and acuras i see around here... so im open to take ur opinion on what motor u think i should buy and if u have one let me know my aim is cnote081 thanks

[WDRacing]

What are you loking for, motor swap suggestions? Whats your budget? Are you just swapping the transmission? You need to be ALOT more specific homegirl

[partymonster 975]

well, doesnt seem like ur looking for to much so I say KA-T or SR..well no, scratch that, CA. If I read that right the CA will suit you fine. But we can help you more if you answer the questions above.

[homeslicej2]

well, doesnt seem like ur looking for to much so I say KA-T or SR..well no, scratch that, CA. If I read that right the CA will suit you fine. But we can help you more if you answer the questions above.

One of the three, but like WD said, specifics would be nice.

[partymonster 975]

sorry lol, I say CA, if thats what you meant by specific?

[homeslicej2]

oh no man I was referring to the OP. I think any of the three would be a good call depending on what suits his tastes.

[WDRacing]

Installing a motor that isn't even a full 2.0 is retarded...say it with me, RETARDED!!! Is the CA nice, sure if it came in your 180SX or Silvia. But other then that...no friggin way.

[homeslicej2]

Installing a motor that isn't even a full 2.0 is retarded...say it with me, RETARDED!!! Is the CA nice, sure if it came in your 180SX or Silvia. But other then that...no friggin way.

Ouchy. Brian just gave us a . I would just go with KA-T with the goals set forward. Already have the motor, use the extra money you'd spend on a motor swap to get a rebuild. Since you don't have huge power goals you won't have to put much in it (spend a lot on expensive parts) and you can use it on a turbo setup.

[partymonster 975]

I guess just get an SR with ur most basic swap mods, unless he can put together a good enough turbo kit which will be cheaper and good for his goals but imo I sat SR. but yea, good point on the CA, but still, it would work for him. KA-T would work fine for him but if he can I'd do an SR with the most basic of swap mods.

[dRiLstar]

yeah i was talking to some people and i can get a dual with a dual transmission with low miles on it ... i have some money right now but im going to get some of the body fixed im going to keep u guys updated thanks for ur opinions im going to the junkyard sat if i find anything i like im deff coppin but i should wait until july/august to drop a new motor in SR or CA sounds good

[WDRacing]

yeah i was talking to some people and i can get a dual with a dual transmission with low miles on it ...

You lost me...totally. For the record, I can get you into the 15's for about $1000. If you boost your KA that is. It will be reliable and run just as good as ANY SR on the road today.

WD

[dRiLstar]

after i get the body work done in around late may im worrying about the engine and what im trying to get but the problem is that this is automatic and around here they charged me around 400 bucks to make it manual.. but if ur telling me the only way ill get that KA to run 15's is if i boost it then no way cuz i wanted all motor i want something running somewhere 15's thanks -dril

[WDRacing]

Well any motor you put in there will be slow NA dude...if you swap are going going to a turbo SR?

[dRiLstar]

yeah SR because only way ill get to 15's with a KA is if i boost it but no way SR sounds good

[WDRacing]

Dude...the SR is boosted. So WTF is the difference between a boosted KA and a boosted SR? I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about...

[dRiLstar]

wtf..im saying that the sr will have more power than the ka even if i boost the ka

[WDRacing]

You're WAY wrong then...way wrong. Thats what I mean about you not knowing wtf you're talking about. I've been doing this since 99 bro...I'm very familiar with every Nissan motor from the CA to the VH45DE. I've owned 2 Skylines and worked on numerous 180/Silvia's. Boost is my thing...

The SR is a good motor, but no better then the KA. And to run 15's you'd be stupid to swap in a SR20...sorry, but thats just fact man.

I'm not trying to piss you off, I just hate seeing people go about things the hard way. Do what you want, if you need help with a KAT I'll be glad to give it to you.

WD

[dickie]

WD, check out his other thread for details on the platform he is working with. Dilstar needs to spend some time reading and researching before he attempts anything.

[homeslicej2]

You're WAY wrong then...way wrong. Thats what I mean about you not knowing wtf you're talking about. I've been doing this since 99 bro...I'm very familiar with every Nissan motor from the CA to the VH45DE. I've owned 2 Skylines and worked on numerous 180/Silvia's. Boost is my thing...

The SR is a good motor, but no better then the KA. And to run 15's you'd be stupid to swap in a SR20...sorry, but thats just fact man.

I'm not trying to piss you off, I just hate seeing people go about things the hard way. Do what you want, if you need help with a KAT I'll be glad to give it to you.

WD

Dude, if 15's are your goal then don't waste the money on an SR. boost your KA for less than half it would cost you for an SR, get into the 15's or 14's and then when your motor goes (depending on its condition) use that extra money you didn't spend on an SR swap to give the KA a decent rebuild. There's no point dumping $2k or so into an SR that will need upgrades and replacement parts before you ever put it in the car. Just by a turbo setup for the KA. Make sure the KA is in decent health, and have at it. If you wanted a 12 sec car and didn't want to DIY with a lot of stuff then I'd say do a swap and build up an SR, RB, VH, LS1, etc. but for 15's put $1k+ into the KA and spend that extra money you have burning a hole in your pocket and replace some suspension stuff, get new seats, get nice wheels, upgrade the brakes, nice stereo, whatever. WD is not trying to steer you in the wrong direction. He's trying to keep you from wasting money, given your goals.

[dRiLstar]

yeah thanks i know wd is a cool guy and the problem is that this motor was leaking some oil and smoking alot... the dude that owned it he always use to ripp it everywhere but thats why i was asking about getting a new motor but when i buy a new motor thats when im getting the swap for manual im getting the whole body done in may 10th for 400 bucks with paint so after the body im going to the engine .. is running nice sounds good and everything but like u said i might as well get that 1k get new seaths i already have a system needs to be put in new doors panels ect ect thanks again i know u guys are telling me these things for my good not for my bad and i thank u for that! thanks

[dRiLstar]

d!ck i dont mean to be an ******* but hop of my d!ck. i dont need ur ****ty opinion on the threads i make i dont know alot about 240's i got one like 1 week ago and im trying to find **** out... i bet u all know more **** about these motors than me i was a honda guy before but it was time for a ****ing change..

[homeslicej2]

Well, I'm glad you're expanding your horizons a bit. You never mentioned that the KA was no good, and I'm certain that I said turbo it if the motor was in decent shape. Since it's not, then your cheapest route (and most straightforward swap) will be an SR20 from an S13, redtop or blacktop, or the CA18. Check out the SR and CA forums to determine which you prefer and to get ideas about power levels, both stock and with lite mods, and you'll also learn how to go about installing the motors into your car and what to change when installing them. Both will get you into the 15's with minimal mods. The SR has a larger aftermarket, so if you plan on upgrading later keep that in mind, but that doesn't mean the CA would be out of the question. Plus, seeing that you used to be a honda guy, you might like the 1.8L CA better. I don't know. That's for you to figure out. If you have a lot of money laying around consider one of the RB's, or some kind of V-6 or V-8, or just rebuild the SOHC and enjoy turboing it, tuning it, and building it up yourself. That's my one-half cent.

Oh yeah, cussing out the mods (both d!ck and WD are mods) when you don't like what they say on their forum (I have not read whatever has happened in the other thread) is not usually a good idea.

[dRiLstar]

lol alright thanks bro i had a 1.6 on my hatch/civic but forget about that im getting the body done for cheap money and i bought the car for cheap money so ima get this deal before working on the engine... and thanks ima take a look at the CA or SR forums thanks homeslicej2

[homeslicej2]

Glad I could help. Just do your homework before picking. There's pros and cons to all the motor options.

[dickie]

im not trying to dump on your threads but heres something to consider:

1. you say the previous owner drove the piss out of the car.2. you admitted that the car was involved in an accident prior to your buying it.3. you are concerned with bodywork and paint instead of making sure the frame and suspension are straight. it doesnt matter if you came from a hyundai or a ferarri, besnt frame and messed up suspension comes before that. 4. considering what you paid for it and the condition its in, you could have gotten a 100% perfect shell with a nice body. since youre going to swap anyways, this would have been a much better option.

i admit i am guilty of judging people by their ability to communicate and their attitudes; at first i thought yours were poor on both counts. seeing your enthusiasm and earnest drive to learn and do things the right way proves me wrong on the latter though.

honestly, youre going to need a lot of time and knowledge and money to get this car up to average standards. if i can help you in any way with the knowledge part, let me know. i am limited to dohc ka motors as far as that goes, but i can probably track down any articles or other info you might have trouble finding on other motors or topics.

i will stop ragging on that car (God knows its had enough of that in its lifetime) but please take the time to correct the big problems before you tackle the cosmetics. how about some pics of your frame rails? have you taken the car to get an alignment check yet? its usually a free service at your local tire places.

[dRiLstar]

yes the frame is straight and i didnt have to curse back there well i know its a ****in rough diamond but bro i been wanting a 240 all my freakin life im so exited and i talk to so much people here they helped me alot look 4 days of having the car and i get charged 400 dollars for the whole car paint/body work fenders.. i dont really care how the car is i know is gonna look good when is done but as i told u i had the 700 in my hand and i was so desperate that i bought it.. i been wanting a 240 since i was like 9 lol ... the car right now is a peace of **** right now and im not gonna update no more pics or anything im going back to work monday to get some money and to start paying the dude thats going to do the body work and paint it.. after that i was talking to WD=white devil and he told me that oil coming out of the muffler is no good so im going to do what he told me if i see that i have to waste more than 1000$ paint and new motor im getting rid of it .I talked to a dude and he was willing to give me 1200 for it and i payed 700 so yeah i mean i was so exited but i made a wrong move.. anyways thanks d!ck

[dickie]

that really sucks to be him.

also must suck to be in jersey where you have to worrk about all the rust that may be hiding underneath that bondo/primer.

your best bet, if you decide to sell that and rape the guy willing to pay 1200 for it (i recommend this) would be to take a road trip to a place where values are a bit lower and winters are less harsh on cars.

[dRiLstar]

alright thanks dicie :p