Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

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Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby crweaver » Tue May 01, 2018 6:20 pm

I'm about to put a 2011 M56 motor and tranny in my 07 M45. I'll be sure to keep notes of any issues as well as what will work
and what will not. I'll have the help of Paul & Brennan from the FB Group, so this is gonna be kinda interesting.
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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby milto0n » Tue May 01, 2018 8:06 pm

Take pictures. Godspeed *salute*

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby LIBRILZ » Wed May 02, 2018 3:33 am

whoa, this is super interesting, has this been done before?

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby EdBwoy » Wed May 02, 2018 6:48 am

Congrats on the big, brave leap!
I understand why you were burned out on the 4.5 though.

Best of luck

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby Ilya » Wed May 02, 2018 7:51 am

LIBRILZ wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 3:33 am
whoa, this is super interesting, has this been done before?
Yes. Maybe not that EXACT combo, but similar:

http://www.superstreetonline.com/featur ... initi-m35/

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby crweaver » Wed May 02, 2018 8:20 am

EdBwoy wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 6:48 am
Congrats on the big, brave leap!
I understand why you were burned out on the 4.5 though.

Best of luck
Yeah I'm like WTH! I put in another 4.5 two weeks ago and still have this complete 5.6 sitting here. The first 5.6 i got was water damaged but after putting in the 4.5
another 5.6 came available with low miles and after dry/wet compression testing, this one is solid! So i've made up my mind to
go ahead and give it a shot.

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby milto0n » Fri May 18, 2018 1:27 pm

Any updates on this?

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby EniGmA1987 » Fri May 18, 2018 3:25 pm

This sounds pretty interesting. I have been wanting to put a newer, higher gear count trans in my car for a while. The spacing is just too far apart for great performance in my old 5 speed. I hope all goes well, Id like to see how things go so I can use some of your experience on my own stuff.

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby crweaver » Sat May 19, 2018 2:24 pm

Anybody tell me how to post pics to this thread? I'm in the process of prepping the 5.6 now. So far the 4.5 alternator. power steering pump and ac compressor bolts to the 5.6 easily. Only had to modify the PS fluid reservoir bracket to mount it. The 4.5 belts will fit with a little elbow grease but could stand to be about half an inch longer. being that the starter is under the intake manifold on the 5.6, i'm gonna replace it along with new valve cover gaskets and plugs while its still out of the car. 4.5 will be coming out of the car next week soon as we pull the uprev licenses off of the ecu.

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby EdBwoy » Sat May 19, 2018 11:17 pm

crweaver wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 2:24 pm
Anybody tell me how to post pics to this thread?...
Here are some options:
how-to-post-pictures-on-nicoclub-compil ... 18411.html

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby EdBwoy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:16 am

How is this project coming CR?

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby crweaver » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:00 pm

Waiting on the harness to back. Im gonna have a drive shaft made cause i cant use the shaft from the m45 or the m56! both shafts are the same length but the trans and diff ends are different which puts the carrier bracket off by like 4 inches. other than that we're moving at a slow pace..lol

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby EdBwoy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:48 pm

As long as you're still moving, that's encouraging.

What's being done to the harness - unwrapping the M56 wiring to fit in place of the M45 one? Or is it tweaking the M45 harness to adapt to the M56 differences?

Post some pictures if you please, or send them to me and I'll share them here.

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby babycharm00 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:07 am

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby babycharm00 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:18 am

:werd:
crweaver wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 6:20 pm
I'm about to put a 2011 M56 motor and tranny in my 07 M45. I'll be sure to keep notes of any issues as well as what will work
and what will not. I'll have the help of Paul & Brennan from the FB Group, so this is gonna be kinda interesting.
Are you posting this on the fb group, if so which one?

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby LIBRILZ » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:18 am

Is this build dead?

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby Dxta » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:49 am

:slap:
EdBwoy wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:17 pm
crweaver wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 2:24 pm
Anybody tell me how to post pics to this thread?...
Here are some options:
http://forums.nicoclub.com/how-to-post- ... 18411.html
I'm just wondering. Isn't there a simpler way of posting pictures here, instead of going through that link to keep reading and trying to post just pictures?

Can't an icon be created where you've for instance, POST PICTURES OR IMAGES BLABLA?

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby basjcksn2 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:52 am

did it happen .im late or new to site.

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Re: Well Fellas its about to happen

Postby EdBwoy » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:47 pm

Dxta wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:49 am
:slap: ...
I'm just wondering. Isn't there a simpler way of posting pictures here, instead of going through that link to keep reading and trying to post just pictures?

Can't an icon be created where you've for instance, POST PICTURES OR IMAGES BLABLA?
Lucky you. This is 2021 and Nicoclub now has a simpler way to attach pictures directly. There is an attachments tab.
See below:


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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby EdBwoy » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:59 pm

LIBRILZ wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:18 am
Is this build dead?
basjcksn2 wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:52 am
did it happen .im late or new to site.
It did happen, and the car ran and drove. That is as much as was shared publicly.
I will leave it up to the OP to share whatever updates he wants to.

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby LIBRILZ » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:46 pm

EdBwoy wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:59 pm
LIBRILZ wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:18 am
Is this build dead?
basjcksn2 wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:52 am
did it happen .im late or new to site.
It did happen, and the car ran and drove. That is as much as was shared publicly.
I will leave it up to the OP to share whatever updates he wants to.
Ah, that's great to hear. I wonder how this platform feels with the VK56VD. I'd be interested in what all was done or had to be done, just as far as using the 7-speed auto. Five gears isn't enough!

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby EniGmA1987 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:55 am

LIBRILZ wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:46 pm
EdBwoy wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:59 pm
It did happen, and the car ran and drove. That is as much as was shared publicly.
I will leave it up to the OP to share whatever updates he wants to.
Ah, that's great to hear. I wonder how this platform feels with the VK56VD. I'd be interested in what all was done or had to be done, just as far as using the 7-speed auto. Five gears isn't enough!
Ya I have long wished I could swap to a 7 speed transmission. Now though I am trying to find someone to swap in the new 9 speed trans. It is a Mercedes/Daimler 9G-Tronic that Nissan got a license for, built and sold as Jatco but it is a 9G-Tronic. Nissan put it on the newer Titan and now the Frontier. The Titan uses this VK56 engine this thread is about, so the new 9 speed is a direct mount to it. Who knows, maybe the OP will do an upgrade to the 9 speed at some point and show us pics :naughty: On the new Frontier, the engine is larger bore and stroke than our VQ35DE's, but otherwise a very similar block to ours. Which means the bell housing on the model designed for the Frontier should bolt on to our cars as well. Then the electronics would just have to be figured out.

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby VStar650CL » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:29 am

EniGmA1987 wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:55 am
Then the electronics would just have to be figured out.
That won't be simple. The new ones all have electric IVT. :squint:

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby VStar650CL » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:39 am

PS - The 9-speed won't exactly be a DIYer's paradise, either. It has a magnesium housing with aluminum fasteners. The latter are coated to keep them from binding galvanically, and they're on everything, even the valve body. Because of the coating they're all single-use, once the coating is broken they're thrown away. For all that, it only saves about 40 pounds of weight. :crazy:

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Re: Swap: Infiniti M56 engine into 07 M45

Postby LIBRILZ » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:54 am

EniGmA1987 wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:55 am
LIBRILZ wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:46 pm

Ah, that's great to hear. I wonder how this platform feels with the VK56VD. I'd be interested in what all was done or had to be done, just as far as using the 7-speed auto. Five gears isn't enough!
Ya I have long wished I could swap to a 7 speed transmission. Now though I am trying to find someone to swap in the new 9 speed trans. It is a Mercedes/Daimler 9G-Tronic that Nissan got a license for, built and sold as Jatco but it is a 9G-Tronic. Nissan put it on the newer Titan and now the Frontier. The Titan uses this VK56 engine this thread is about, so the new 9 speed is a direct mount to it. Who knows, maybe the OP will do an upgrade to the 9 speed at some point and show us pics :naughty: On the new Frontier, the engine is larger bore and stroke than our VQ35DE's, but otherwise a very similar block to ours. Which means the bell housing on the model designed for the Frontier should bolt on to our cars as well. Then the electronics would just have to be figured out.
Well the 7-speed was just interesting from the point of view of simplicity. The 9-speed is a whole other can of worms id assume!


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