Suspension Suggestion

[BRicci]

I'm looking to get lowering springs hopefully sometime soon, and I want to get them before I get new wheels.
Right now, I'm planning on getting 20" wheels, so I was just wondering what springs would be best for fitment of them. I don't want any tire gap either or very minimal.

Eibach-->H&R-->Tein?

[wade001]

If you don't want any tire gap/slam it then you will have to go with coilovers, theres a good number of people here with them !

[BRicci]

Well I've seen stock 18" wheels with Tein Springs and there was very little tire gap at all... So?

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww14 ... MG0429.jpg This was a user on these forums. I think he was a moderator.

[AlexM.]

coilover-lowering-spring-options-t559823.html

[BRicci]

coilover-lowering-spring-options-t559823.html

I've seen that, that's how I got my three choices of springs.. It doesn't really help with my question, though :/

I know with Eibach's and 20" wheels, there is a very small tire gap. What I'm asking is if I go lower with Tein or H&R, will it be hard for fitment of the 20's with either one of them?

[DJ_B_Easy]

It all depends on what size tires you wrap them in. You want to keep within 3% of the stock overall diameter. You can go beyond that and kill the gap, but then your speedo and odo get thrown off. If you stay within 3% of the stock OD, you will have no problem with fitment whatsoever with Tein or H&R springs.

[BRicci]

It all depends on what size tires you wrap them in. You want to keep within 3% of the stock overall diameter. You can go beyond that and kill the gap, but then your speedo and odo get thrown off. If you stay within 3% of the stock OD, you will have no problem with fitment whatsoever with Tein or H&R springs.

They're 245/35/20, that's 1.6% within stock. So if I went with Tein or H&R, I wouldn't have to get any fender rolls or anything like that?

[DJ_B_Easy]

Nope. You are good. But you also wont kill the wheel gap completely.

[BRicci]

You don't think so? I saw these Tein's with 19's on them with very little tire gap; I thought 20's would fill it up.

http://teinusa-blog.com/wp-content/uplo ... it-054.jpg

[DJ_B_Easy]

If you consider that killing the gap, then yes. But you can fit a packed wallet in there.

EDIT: Again, it has nothing to do with wheel size. You need to be at 26.3". If the tires get you there, its like running OEM.

2nd EDIT: Is that Loop's ride?

[BRicci]

So, the tire gap is the same no matter what wheel size you have?

And yeah, it's Loop's.

[AlexM.]

Loop also had Tein coilovers so make sure that those are pics of his car on coils and not springs!

I think what DJ's trying to say is if you want to stay about 3% within the OEM overall diameter, it will be impossible to kill the wheel gap.

[BRicci]

The picture was from his Tein springs review, so yeah it wasn't on coilovers then haha.
This stuff is so aggravating

Edit: Alright, I get it now, for the most part. I'm pretty much set on Tein's, coilovers are just out of my budget.

So, my question is now: to eliminate tire gap I will have to get my overall diameter bigger, which will cause fitment problems?

[DJ_B_Easy]

So, my question is now: to eliminate tire gap I will have to get my overall diameter bigger, which will cause fitment problems?

And also effect your speedometer and odometer over time. Dont do it this way. If you want to kill the wheel gap, do it the right way and get coils.

[BRicci]

And also effect your speedometer and odometer over time. Dont do it this way. If you want to kill the wheel gap, do it the right way and get coils.

Alright man, thanks for your help. I'll have to do some serious thinking if I wanna spend $1000 on coils.

Edit: Might as well ask this and not start a new thread. I have a choice between +38 +32 and +20 offset, seeing as +38 is closet to the stock offset, that would be the best option, correct? (All 20x9)

And I'm not even thinking about coils anymore. Maybe in a couple years if I really want them.

[DJ_B_Easy]

Thats a questions for the stance guys, hopefully AlexM can chime in. Offset and width will not effect the speedo or the odo, but they can pose fitment problems against fenders and interior suspension components.

[Irvxing]

+38 and possibly +32 will be good IF you're not planning on dumping your car to the ground.+20 will be way too aggressive without having your car sit on the wheels.

[BRicci]

+38 and possibly +32 will be good IF you're not planning on dumping your car to the ground.+20 will be way too aggressive without having your car sit on the wheels.

Yeah, I'm just going with Tein springs (2" drop) and the +38.

[Altima_VIP]

I think Tein springs would be your best bet. Unless you wanna spend $1000 on coils.

[BRicci]

New Question:

Would the Eibach tutorial work for the Tein S. Tech's? my local shop quoted me about $400-500 for installation and tire alignment.. ridiculous. Also, is tire alignment crucial after lowering? I've heard it's best to wait a couple weeks and I've heard to align them right after you get them and then again in a coupe weeks.

They also said it would only lower it 1 inch instead of 2 inches... what?
And I'm not sure how well two people with little to no mechanical experience would do, think it'd go okay?

[Altima_VIP]

Whoa! It's obvious they are trying to make money off the alignment. You normally get one once the springs have settled in. It takes time though. Tell them you just need springs installed...or just install them yourself.

[BRicci]

Would the eibach tutorial work for the tein springs, same concept?

[Irvxing]

Yes, the install steps are the same.
Since yours is a '12 the bolts shouldn't be too troublesome to remove.

[H3llRazr]

After the cost of shocks, strut and springs. Coilovers are a better bargain even thou they cost a grand. But it depends on what you want