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I have a 91 300zx 2+2. I have 19" rims with Front: 225/35/19 & 255/30/19. The fenders have already been rolled to avoid rubbin. I am going to lower it using tein H-tech springs (F:1.4in drop, R:0.8in drop). My questions are: Should I use KYB or TOKICO struts, and what model? Do I need to get anything else besides the struts to lower the car? If so, what brands are the best. Thanks.


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Both shocks are really good, I prefer the KYB AGX as they are adjustable and is easier to adjust the rears.You would also need front upper control arms to adjust the camber. The rears will be ok with stock components with a 0.8" drop.

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Thanks for the response. what is a good brand for the front upper control arm? Thanks

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Any reputable name is good, ie SPL, powertrix, AMS. But I have also heard some people have had good experience with E-bay UCA's.

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I like tokico over agx when it comes to shock's they tend to be more linear when it comes to the shock dyno's. Both are good shocks though. I would go with powertrix upper control arms as well as tension rods.

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Why would I need the tension rods to be changed when lowering it?

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85cartagena wrote:Why would I need the tension rods to be changed when lowering it?
dont believe you really have to but it will help you to alighn toe better for more accurate alighnment

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alright thanks for the info. I've been doing some research and I'm gonna go with powertrix control arms and tension rods. For the money, they seem to be the best . Thank you guys

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85cartagena wrote:I have a 91 300zx 2+2. I have 19" rims with Front: 225/35/19 & 255/30/19. The fenders have already been rolled to avoid rubbin. I am going to lower it using tein H-tech springs (F:1.4in drop, R:0.8in drop). My questions are: Should I use KYB or TOKICO struts, and what model? Do I need to get anything else besides the struts to lower the car? If so, what brands are the best. Thanks.
Hate to say it for argument sake but... Here it goes.. If your lowering it only 1.4 & .8 in the rear why are you so worried about camber?? Dont be.. Unless you buy some really and I mean really expensive tires.. Camber issues shouldnt be that far off with such a small drop in height.. If you go 2" than I would say you have to get camber plates.. But your not...

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jerdog1 wrote:Hate to say it for argument sake but... Here it goes.. If your lowering it only 1.4 & .8 in the rear why are you so worried about camber?? Dont be.. Unless you buy some really and I mean really expensive tires.. Camber issues shouldnt be that far off with such a small drop in height.. If you go 2" than I would say you have to get camber plates.. But your not...
If your going to do something you should do it right. Whats the $150 dollars to get quality rear upper control arms as opposed to new tires? Hell the $50 dollar goodspeed arms off ebay would likely be better than stock. It amazes me the amount of people on this site who try and cheap out on every possible area they can on these cars and then wonder later why something isn't right.

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^+1

Oh, and I don't think anyone is getting camber plates for their 300zx.

Oh and OP, the H.Tech are .8 front, .2 rear. The S.Tech springs have the drop you were referring to.

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jerdog1 wrote:Hate to say it for argument sake but... Here it goes.. If your lowering it only 1.4 & .8 in the rear why are you so worried about camber?? Dont be.. Unless you buy some really and I mean really expensive tires.. Camber issues shouldnt be that far off with such a small drop in height.. If you go 2" than I would say you have to get camber plates.. But your not...
If he has the money he should spend it while he has it. Do it right the first time. He may not like the drop and want to drop it more but may not have the money the second time to purchase everything else. Going the cheap route when upgrading the suspension usually doesn't give good results.

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I was taking my car today back to japtrix to get some leaks fixed and was talkng to a guy who has a SC400 lowered, with a body kit and $2300 18" rims, and he was telling me not to get the springs nor the struts, but to instead get D2 coilovers for about $200 more. Are these coilovers good? what are some good coilovers to get for this car (besides the $1400 teins)? Thanks.

P.S. I did mean S-tech, and the tires are expensive for the 19"s, even though i get them used!!!

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D2's are cheapo coils look at powertrix, spl, even megans if your going to go with coilovers.

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Z-owned wrote:D2's are cheapo coils look at powertrix, spl, even megans if your going to go with coilovers.
thank you for the prompt response. I am going to look into these brands and make a decision depending on the price. I'll let you know what that decision would be

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Z-owned wrote:
If your going to do something you should do it right. Whats the $150 dollars to get quality rear upper control arms as opposed to new tires? Hell the $50 dollar goodspeed arms off ebay would likely be better than stock. It amazes me the amount of people on this site who try and cheap out on every possible area they can on these cars and then wonder later why something isn't right.
This is why I don't give any advice to anyone.. Because 24 year old kids who know it all try to say stupid shiz like your cheap?? I make more money in a month than you make all year tard boy.. I own 2 300zx's and have a Maxima.. You daily drive a N/A.. Thats it.. Thats all you got?? Come on kid bring something else to the gun fight.. The guy was talking about a 1 inch drop?? Camber issues after a 1 inch drop?? NO!!!

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jerdog1 wrote:This is why I don't give any advice to anyone.. Because 24 year old kids who know it all try to say stupid shiz like your cheap?? I make more money in a month than you make all year tard boy.. I own 2 300zx's and have a Maxima.. You daily drive a N/A.. Thats it.. Thats all you got?? Come on kid bring something else to the gun fight.. The guy was talking about a 1 inch drop?? Camber issues after a 1 inch drop?? NO!!!
How many cars you own says absolutely nothing about how much money you have. You own 3 cars, none of which is younger then 15 years. All 3 of them together could probably buy you a nice new Camry. Not even an Avalon. With stupid replies like that, I really do hope you continue to not give advice to anyone.

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jerdog1 wrote:This is why I don't give any advice to anyone.. Because 24 year old kids who know it all try to say stupid shiz like your cheap?? I make more money in a month than you make all year tard boy.. I own 2 300zx's and have a Maxima.. You daily drive a N/A.. Thats it.. Thats all you got?? Come on kid bring something else to the gun fight.. The guy was talking about a 1 inch drop?? Camber issues after a 1 inch drop?? NO!!!
Since you know all about me you would know that I could easily afford your 3 cars if I wanted. I live in a mild climate area why not dd the z? I get to enjoy mine everyday rather than making it a garage queen. And just cause I pissed you off doesn't change the fact I am right in my previous post. Why don't you go bake your 33 year old anger out now, I can read profiles as well.....

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Hey guys, thank you for all your opinions. Hopefully both of you have cooled off by now. I was gonna go for powertrix but my budget became tighter since I had to change my slay cylinder, pcv valve, an oil leak from the valve cover, and had to purchase an adj tension bar since the bushigs on my stock ones were out (OEM ones were $120 each!!!) adj were cheaper. The tension bar I got R from powertrix, but I found that AMS FUCAs, RUCAs are a bit cheaper than powertix. My question is: is AMS reliable? Are they good? Do any of you guys have had any xperience with this brand? Z1motorsports sells them so I don't believe that they could be that bad....

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You shouldn't have any issues with the ams there arms are quality parts.

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Thank you Z-owned, You've been very helpful. I'm gonna go for the AMS parts. I'll let you know how it all goes when done

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LOL a little late, but i would get KYB GR-2's...i got those on my N/A 2+2 and they are great...but the agx might be better if you have the money

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Im a chef.. Not a baker.. good job tard boy.. You're a pro.. And as far as the other 18 year old lamo dont listen to him!! He just got his license.. I am an ASE certified mechanic and have a degree.. Unless these super stars can tell you the the same dont listen to these tards!! This is why I dont say much.. Every guy says "Alot" of info but does'nt know much.. 1 inch drop = no camber issues... Peace out!!!!!!

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car nut wrote:
How many cars you own says absolutely nothing about how much money you have. You own 3 cars, none of which is younger then 15 years. All 3 of them together could probably buy you a nice new Camry. Not even an Avalon. With stupid replies like that, I really do hope you continue to not give advice to anyone.

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As far as this goes.. I "NEVER" will buy a "TOYOTA"!! Unless you know what my DD is dont post retard a** shiz like this.. You see my project cars and I dont show you pics because I dont trust people but that doesnt mean that I dont drive something else but my Nissans? Retard!!! I won't go into my daily driven car because i'm not excited about it & I don't want to make you cry with jeolousy!! F'n Dorks!!

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car nut wrote:
How many cars you own says absolutely nothing about how much money you have. You own 3 cars, none of which is younger then 15 years. All 3 of them together could probably buy you a nice new Camry. Not even an Avalon. With stupid replies like that, I really do hope you continue to not give advice to anyone.

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Rich 18year old kid!! Look out eveyone!!! F'n dork!! Weak sauce....

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Alright felllaz let's all calm down and focus on the issue here. I really apreciate all of your comments and concerns, but I have decided to go for coilovers most likely powertrix, I already bought pOwertrix adj. tension rods since my stock ones were worn out and OEM ones were $120 each at the dealership. Since I am on a budjet the rest of the suspension parts will be AMS besides the coilovers. I'll let you guys know how it all looks and feels once done.

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Good choice! Make sure you get bushings.

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jerdog1 wrote:Im a chef.. Not a baker.. good job tard boy.. You're a pro.. And as far as the other 18 year old lamo dont listen to him!! He just got his license.. I am an ASE certified mechanic and have a degree.. Unless these super stars can tell you the the same dont listen to these tards!! This is why I dont say much.. Every guy says "Alot" of info but does'nt know much.. 1 inch drop = no camber issues... Peace out!!!!!!
jerdog1 wrote:As far as this goes.. I "NEVER" will buy a "TOYOTA"!! Unless you know what my DD is dont post retard a** shiz like this.. You see my project cars and I dont show you pics because I dont trust people but that doesnt mean that I dont drive something else but my Nissans? Retard!!! I won't go into my daily driven car because i'm not excited about it & I don't want to make you cry with jeolousy!! F'n Dorks!!
jerdog1 wrote:Rich 18year old kid!! Look out eveyone!!! F'n dork!! Weak sauce....
Seeing as I have a lot of time on my hands, let me break down the stupidity we have all just witnessed.

-I've had my license for almost 2 years, and I've logged a good 25k miles. This is not including over 100 laps at New Jersey Motorsports Park and hundreds more at kart tracks since I was 12. -Your certification means nothing here unless it's suspension/steering related. By the sound of it, you aren't.-Nobody says alot of info. Alot is not a word. I believe you were looking for the combination of the letter "a" with the word "lot". -You stated that you don't want to get into your daily driver because you're "not excited about it" and you don't want to make me cry with jealousy. How is this possible? Aren't exciting cars the ones that make people jealous?-F'n dorks? -Yeah, hey guys look out for the 18 year old who spent all the money he's earned over the last 7 years to buy his 20 year old car. Be careful!-F'n dork again?


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Your the man!! Show me the 18 year old knowledge!! Please!! Please!!

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jerdog1 wrote: Your the man!! Show me the 18 year old knowledge!! Please!! Please!!
How about you just stop you keep making a big deal out of people's age and yet you are the one acting the most imature in the whole thread. Going off the logic you have posted in this thread, age would be the only contributing factor to the amount of knowledge someone has. The guy asked a question I answered them; do you have direct experience with a one inch drop not effecting camber on the z32? I do and I can tell you that it will effect it, the rear you can get away with as it offers some adjustment but the front upper control arms don't offer any you either have to get adjustable control arms or shim the stock one out like the 300 degree kit offers. I don't care at all about your ASE certification by the way, I have met alot of stupid certified mechanics, not saying you are one but your actions in this thread haven't supported the latter. Unfortunatly I am sure you will have some imature response to give again so this is my last post in this thread have a good day.


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