suspension on AWD s14?

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ATpossible
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Ok guys I'm sure most of us know of Full Race's accomplishment of a rb26dett AWD s14.

I have seen pics of their suspension setup and I know they just used the whole r32 subframe. I know the black "link"(the pieace that is between coilover and wheel) looks like a 7 where the top part of the seven is connected to the wheel well and the bottom part connects right next to the bottom of the coilover. My question is does anyone know what they did to make that ONE piece fit into the wheel well?

Or better yet if someone has a pic of the back side of the front suspension would be SO great! That would allow me to see how they fit that particular piece in.


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show me a picture of what you are talking about lol

ATpossible
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Direct link is http://www.full-race.com/r14/i...3.jpg below expect it's small so best way is acutally http://www.full-race.com/r14/s....php then its the 15th pic down on the left column.

Anyway its the black piece to the right of the coilover. The one that looks really clean. It right next to it and at about the same length as the coilover.

If you could help me find a way to put my own pics on the forum I can send a pic of the part.

Oh FYI i checked thread on uploading pics but when i registered it didn't give me that confirmation email or whatever it is and it doesn't have the "upload link" at the top of the page for me.

I just need to see how they connected it to the wheel well so a pic similar to that but from the back of the tire would be perfect.


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i HIGHLY recommend not trying to copy that picture... its on the website for a reason.

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ATpossible wrote:Ok guys I'm sure most of us know of Full Race's accomplishment of a rb26dett AWD s14.

I have seen pics of their suspension setup and I know they just used the whole r32 subframe. I know the black "link"(the pieace that is between coilover and wheel) looks like a 7 where the top part of the seven is connected to the wheel well and the bottom part connects right next to the bottom of the coilover. My question is does anyone know what they did to make that ONE piece fit into the wheel well?

Or better yet if someone has a pic of the back side of the front suspension would be SO great! That would allow me to see how they fit that particular piece in.


I know a much better way. Buy a R32 GTR or R33 GTR. BAM! RB26DETT and AWD.

Sil240
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I personally think that swap is Fockin Awesome.But.....If I had that $$ to spend I would just buy a R32 GTR.

ATpossible
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full-race geoff wrote:i HIGHLY recommend not trying to copy that picture... its on the website for a reason.
Hi Geoff. I'm glad you responded to this thread, but I think you might have misunderstood me. I dont wanna copy that picture I would just like to see how it was connected. Since you owe the car could you please send a pic with the same angle as the other pic expect from the back? I would greatly appreciate that. Oh and i'd like to personally say good job on the kit.
Yellow4g63 wrote:I

I know a much better way. Buy a R32 GTR or R33 GTR. BAM! RB26DETT and AWD.
Lol ya umm that is a way 2... im half way there tho.
Sil240 wrote:I personally think that swap is Fockin Awesome.But.....If I had that $$ to spend I would just buy a R32 GTR.
Ya they did a great job and if I had that kind of money I would put half into my house, a quarter to my car, the last part to savings or investments.

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Yellow4g63 wrote:I

I know a much better way. Buy a R32 GTR or R33 GTR. BAM! RB26DETT and AWD.


rb26 in a s chassis is a waste of a rb26 even if it it is "awd"

ATpossible
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Thanks for the input. I'm not here to debate that nor am I asking cuz I feel there would probably be a equal amount of people favoring both ends. I will say the situation and circumstances matters most of all.

So as much as that is a legitmate arguement to have, I would really just like to know if anyone has a pic of the inside end of the "R14" front suspension . Thanks

ATpossible
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Kamin wrote:show me a picture of what you are talking about lol
Metal "connecting rod" next to spring...

Another view...

Last one for good measure...

JerryRigRB240
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I don't mean to be condescending but I think this is too complicated a task to take on. If you were serious about doing it, you wouldn't be asking questions. You would have skyline suspesion parts in your garage to see how they'd be fitted. It would take engineering to assure the geometry is correct, and the extra accelleration stresses were adequately braced.

ATpossible
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I do that is how I got those pics. I just wanted to know if anyone knew how it was mated to the s14. Reasons why...

The upper link is ~9 and half inches. Skyline strut tower is about 4 inches wider on its inner side (i believe, cant remember) but they both are about the same distance to fire wall if I remember correctly.

The problem wit the s14 strut tower is the clearance to its inner side is too close so I just wanted to know if anyone knows or has any suggestions of how I would be able to find out.

I was thinking it might have been done by cutting the wheel well and welding a new section to allow clearance for the "upper link" as the manual refers to it. Or maybe cutting the upper link.

Thanks for the advice I will ask the engineers at my work if they have any advice on the stress etc...

Just to clearify I don't think I ever said I was going to do it, Did I? (I forget things easily)

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they used the gtr front cross member and entire suspension off the clip and mount it to the s14. there's nothing much to it, just align pro0perly and weld in brackets etc....just time consuming, if you're good with fab'ing, it should be too hard.

ATpossible
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ya I know about that. however that one link is too long to fit in the 240 strut tower like it normally does in the gtr strut tower.

At the same time tho there is enough room to make it fit but being close to hitting the other end by bolting the upper link to the inner side of the tower. Although that would make the coilover slightly angled instead of straight down if that way is even possible.

ill just draw a pic and upload tonight so it would make more sense wat it is im curious about.

NightKids2
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No one in this entire thread is even listening to your question, just telling you that the swap that was "impossible" 3 months ago and "will run you over 20,000" is now a simple matter of making brackets and/or just paying 12-20k for a car thats hard enough to get into the country much less make it legal enough to stay out of a garbage compactor. I cant believe how easy things have got in this short amount of time.

I would just talk to Geoff and stick with that, cause no one here has any idea what there talking about.

ATpossible
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ok thanks....appreciate your help

Sil240
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NightKids2 wrote:No one in this entire thread is even listening to your question, just telling you that the swap that was "impossible" 3 months ago and "will run you over 20,000" is now a simple matter of making brackets and/or just paying 12-20k for a car thats hard enough to get into the country much less make it legal enough to stay out of a garbage compactor. I cant believe how easy things have got in this short amount of time.

I would just talk to Geoff and stick with that, cause no one here has any idea what there talking about.
Personally I dont think Geoff will tell you anything.He makes $$ selling those kits.

ATpossible
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ya u r most likely right. honestly i if i were doing it to sell i would not either especially because of the way it appears it was done. that is y i didnt even bother asking him. wanted 2 but didnt.

although he did write to this post so i asked anyway but atleast now i cant say i didnt ask.


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