Supreme Court Shoots Down Chicago Gun Law

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But they are only the means of killing, the reason for killing is irrelevant to the means. Let me be clear, im not advocating a willy nilly distribution of firearms, in posting the Washington quotes my goal was to try and make a point that weaponry in general is a vital part of our society, not for expedience of death, but for placation of death. Just because guns are our current most abundant form of weaponry, and they do facilitate killing, gun laws are not going to have any positive effect on said killing. If anything it will have a negative effect in that some of the deaths will be people who could have otherwise defended themselves without overbearing firearm limitations. Guns exist, thats something you are going to have to become at peace with. The day you invent a machine that can simultaneously remove all firearms from the world, and lobotomize all violence from the minds of all people, that will be the day we start discussing out and out bans.

You are right to posit that guns didnt help killing much in the 1790s, they were too inaccurate, they made better melee weapons than ranged weapons. :)

Consider this pair of quotes, once again from Mr. Washington

"My first wish is to see this plague of mankind, war, banished from the earth. "

"If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War. "

Was he 2-faced? No, he like any other rational person abhored violence, but knew that the the readiness to exact violence in ones own defense was essential. Nothing has changed about that, we stand ready for war on a national level, and we must needs stand ready for war of individuality in our every day lives.


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he's right. the world of 1790 and 2010 are completely different. gas stations didnt get robbed, people didnt get robbed for their cell phones and nobody car-jacked them. so now your going to try to rationalize that with people stole other peoples horses im sure but what do u think they did... they acted. if a man pulls a gun and starts to rob the liquor store ur in one night what are u gonna do... say "excuse me sir, did u purchase that firearm legally?" or "sir ur acting in an odd form of behavior, did u disclose any mental illness upon purchase of that weapon?"... NO!!! ur going to pull ur gun (if u have one and have the nads) and attempt to stop the man. guns have a profound place in our society and so long as their ownership, possession, and portrayal stands sound to our intolerance for evil and those that intend to do harm to others then legislation to restrict them from the common man in itself is unconstitutional. i mean we speak of war but majority of the wars are not fought on foreign soil. theyre fought in our own country, states, cities... even our homes. if a man comes in your home at 3am with the intent to rob u he has invaded u and so u are at war with him. u got a lot better chance with a d*mn gun than u do a baseball bat. these gangs and thugs that run our streets... were at war with them. dont tell me we have police for that coz if thats the case then were fighting a losing battle coz last i checked gang activity is increasingly growing larger and faster. sooner or later its going to be our job to do something when our law enforcment does fail entirely. so what are u gonna do p*ssy foot and fumble f*ck around till they "pop a cap" in u or are u gonna get off ur azz and arm up and take action. we are the militia, bout d*amn time we did our job to IMO


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