SUPPLEMENTAL AIR BAG WARNING LIGHT

[Qashqai]

This morning it was -28 C' (-18 F') in Ottawa. My car was parked outside and for the first time I saw the dashboard and screen of the radio and cluster covered with a thin layer of ice!!! I connected my block heater and battery warmer from the night before (without timer, from 11:00 pm to 7:00 am next morning). I started the engine. It instantly run, without an issue. So I am pretty sure battery is fine and block heater makes the coolant little warm. I heard some really strange noises from the transmission/starter area when the car first starts, but at that weather I think it is normal to hear some "strange noises".

Anyway, the airbag warning light started to flash on my instrument cluster and the passenger airbag warning light was constantly on. Normally both of them should be off.

I took the car to the dealer. They found some error codes but the mechanic said he never saw such a thing before . They erased these codes and the lights are gone.

I searched a little bit on the internet and some people experienced similar problems during cold weather.

Some said, until they changed the "airbag controller module", they all have issues.

Anyone experienced a similar problem?

I will take the car to another dealer once if I see the flashing warning again.

[ImStricken06]

the cold does bring a lot of bugs out in electronics. also, if you saw ice on your dash (really freaking strange!) that means moisture is in your car somewhere. if its there, its elsewhere. are you sure you didnt have a bag or something on your seat to trigger the in-seat cushion sensor?

its possible that the sensors were frozen stuck. remember the cold makes things shrink - and with sensors, 1/1,000th of an inch could trigger it. id just ride it out and see what happens. (i sometimes get the sensor in the passenger seat to trigger and the airbag light goes on, and then turns off and never comes back on)

[Qashqai]

No, there was nothing on the seat. Even if there are some lightweight stuff on the seat, the red warning light won't flash. AAs far as I know, it means there is a serious problem in the airbag system.

This morning it happened again. This time I didn't go to the dealer. After 5-6 minutes, it disappeared. The flashing red light and the "passenger airbag off" light suddenly turned off. I think it is related with weather. But the question is: is it an early indicator of a faulty airbag control module?

Next oil change, I will talk to the service manager. Until that time, I hope I won't need the aibags

[ImStricken06]

No, there was nothing on the seat. Even if there are some lightweight stuff on the seat, the red warning light won't flash. AAs far as I know, it means there is a serious problem in the airbag system.

This morning it happened again. This time I didn't go to the dealer. After 5-6 minutes, it disappeared. The flashing red light and the "passenger airbag off" light suddenly turned off. I think it is related with weather. But the question is: is it an early indicator of a faulty airbag control module?

Next oil change, I will talk to the service manager. Until that time, I hope I won't need the aibags

is it a sign? yes & no. yes for the obvious reasons, and no because it could be a faulty seat sensor.

and yes, bags on the seat WILL trigger that sensor to register a small child sitting in the seat.

[TrevorK]

No, there was nothing on the seat. Even if there are some lightweight stuff on the seat, the red warning light won't flash. AAs far as I know, it means there is a serious problem in the airbag system.

This morning it happened again. This time I didn't go to the dealer. After 5-6 minutes, it disappeared. The flashing red light and the "passenger airbag off" light suddenly turned off. I think it is related with weather. But the question is: is it an early indicator of a faulty airbag control module?

Next oil change, I will talk to the service manager. Until that time, I hope I won't need the aibags

I have talked to the Service Manager and was told that because this only happens in extreme cold that they do not know what to do. They said they would of course run tests, diag's, etc... but in the end he said it'll probably come up with nothing since it comes and goes with the temperature.

It doesn't happen as often with my car because it's in the garage overnight but on the occasional day it goes below 25 I get the same problem when leaving work. It does eventually go away on it's own. I know the seats are harder when it's cold outside and I suspect it has something to do with this. Perhaps if you turn the seat warmers on it'll go away quicker?


If you end up getting a solution I'd love to hear it.

[Rogue One]

I have talked to the Service Manager and was told that because this only happens in extreme cold that they do not know what to do. They said they would of course run tests, diag's, etc... but in the end he said it'll probably come up with nothing since it comes and goes with the temperature.

It doesn't happen as often with my car because it's in the garage overnight but on the occasional day it goes below 25 I get the same problem when leaving work. It does eventually go away on it's own. I know the seats are harder when it's cold outside and I suspect it has something to do with this. Perhaps if you turn the seat warmers on it'll go away quicker?

If you end up getting a solution I'd love to hear it.

Won't do any good to turn the seat heaters on, just like the seatbelt system, they are pressure activated. Unless you have weight in the part where your posterior belongs AND up against the seatback, the built in heater won't activate.

[ImStricken06]

Won't do any good to turn the seat heaters on, just like the seatbelt system, they are pressure activated. Unless you have weight in the part where your posterior belongs AND up against the seatback, the built in heater won't activate.

not always true.
pressure sensitive means there is a movable sensor or air pressure sensor in a bag type device. the warmer it is, the more accurate it is. the colder = the stiffer. and heck, being so cold and stiff; it make it stuck in one position or another. and cold air is more dense then hot air, resulting in slight miss-readings.

anyway, since the heater pad is in the seat, next to the seat sensor = turning on the seat heater just MIGHT do the trick

[Rogue One]

Won't do any good to turn the seat heaters on, just like the seatbelt system, they are pressure activated. Unless you have weight in the part where your posterior belongs AND up against the seatback, the built in heater won't activate.

not always true.
pressure sensitive means there is a movable sensor or air pressure sensor in a bag type device. the warmer it is, the more accurate it is. the colder = the stiffer. and heck, being so cold and stiff; it make it stuck in one position or another. and cold air is more dense then hot air, resulting in slight miss-readings.

anyway, since the heater pad is in the seat, next to the seat sensor = turning on the seat heater just MIGHT do the trick

If I remember correctly, your vehicle doesn't have heated seats, so you're gonna have to trust me when I say they don't start to warm up until you're sitting in them.

[Qashqai]

I have to say, ImStricken is right. You can turn on the heaters when it is unoccupied.

they don't start to warm up until you're sitting in them.

The owner's manual says (Section 2, page 39):

Do not use the seat heater for extended periods or when no one is using the seat.

From my own experience:

Sometimes I drop my wife off to shopping and of course she never turns the heater off. So after 10-15 minutes of drive back to home, I realize the switch is on and the seat is HOT!

[Rogue One]

I have to say, ImStricken is right. You can turn on the heaters when it is unoccupied.

they don't start to warm up until you're sitting in them.

The owner's manual says (Section 2, page 39):

Do not use the seat heater for extended periods or when no one is using the seat.

From my own experience:

Sometimes I drop my wife off to shopping and of course she never turns the heater off. So after 10-15 minutes of drive back to home, I realize the switch is on and the seat is HOT!

Ok, so the seat heaters in my last Rogue didn't do this. Haven't tested the new Rogue to see if the seats pre-heat.

[ImStricken06]

If I remember correctly, your vehicle doesn't have heated seats, so you're gonna have to trust me when I say they don't start to warm up until you're sitting in them.

i do have heated seats, and they do warm up without someone sitting in them. i pre-heat them before ms.imstricken gets in all the time

[rickrogue]

its normal on that kind of temperature and it will turn it off by it self

[di_gent]

Good day everyone.

I live in Northern Canada and the past 3 weeks its been below -30 and yesterday i noticed that the supplemental air bag warning light came on flashed a few times and stayed on i ignored it and went to work. When i started the car up at lunch time the light didnt come one so i thought it was nothing. This morning it was like -37 (-46 with windshield) and when i started my car the warning light came on again and it just stayed sold. I dont know why but i have a feeling that it has something to do with the weather since i didnt get into any sort of accident and the light is coming on. Has anyone else has this issue? i read the manual and it says the system needs servicing, is that normal?

Any information will be helpful, i want to know what i have before i take it to the dealer. There is only one dealer in town and I don't like them very much.

its a 2008 rogue SL FWD with about 107000km

manual:"If any of the following conditions occur, the front
air bag, side air bag, curtain and rollover air bag
and pretensioner systems need servicing:
. The supplemental air bag warning light
remains on after approximately 7 seconds.
. The supplemental air bag warning light
flashes intermittently.
. The supplemental air bag warning light does
not come on at all.
Under these conditions, the front air bag, side air
bag, curtain and rollover air bag and pretensioner
systems may not operate properly. It must
be checked and repaired. Take yourvehicle to
the nearest NISSAN dealer." p1-51

[ImStricken06]

merged the posts as the topics are the same.

[TrevorK]

Any information will be helpful, i want to know what i have before i take it to the dealer. There is only one dealer in town and I don't like them very much.

My thoughts are that since the sensor is based on weight it detects something/someone in the seat when the seat cushion hardens. (Remember that when the weight on the seat is under a certain amount it turns the airbag off and displays a warning indicating that) Just feel your seat when it's -30 outside versus when it's 0 and you'll see exactly what I mean because it is as hard as a rock. This stiffening of the material causes the sensor to say "Something light is in the seat and not heavy enough to need the airbag", hence why your light indicates the passenger airbag is turned off.

When I turn the seat heater one in the seat it goes away within a minute or two I find. Or if someone is sitting in the seat it goes away right away.


This is all based on my opinion of course and it's your choice whether you go to the dealer with it if you're worried about it being a safety issue.

[Qashqai]

I have the same "constant passenger airbag off warning light" issue, plus a flashing red warning light on the insturment panel. I am convinced that it is due to the outside temperature. It isclearthat Japanese engineers didn't think about the extreme temperatures in Canada. When the car/seat/sensors get warm, the problem goes away

[di_gent]

As long as my air bags will work god forbid that i get in to an accident, i guess i can live with the fact that this light comes on in the instrumental panel and doesnt mean anything
thanks for the info

[TrevorK]

As long as my air bags will work god forbid that i get in to an accident, i guess i can live with the fact that this light comes on in the instrumental panel and doesnt mean anything
thanks for the info

Don't fool yourself, if the light is on the airbag on the passenger side will not deploy. While you can debate the value of the airbag when no one is in the seat it would be a lie to say that it'll still deploy.

The light does mean something, it's just that the sensor does not function properly in extreme temperatures. But it's definitely not a light to ignore, especially if someone is in the seat and it still stays on!

[di_gent]

Great now you got me worried again

[TrevorK]

Great now you got me worried again

Move somewhere warmer

I personally don't think it's a big deal. But I am not someone who designs airbag/restraint system and engineers their deployment so I have no basis to tell you this is fine otherwise you might just ignore the light continually, including when a different problems develops with that symptom.

[cadet7]

I found a solution to the problem for the flashing SRS or "Supplemental Air Bag Warning Lights".

I must first say in don't live in the cold regions but in the tropics i.e. Jamaica in particular. So it's normally warm here. So I rule out temperature being the cause for the lights.

I just the SRS lights flashing and it wouldn't go off after 6-7 seconds, which had me worried. Anyhow I did a little research (through google) & found the following procedures to work:-

How to reset the AirBag Warning Light

This typically happens after installing a new stereo system. The thing that triggers it (most commonly) is turning on the car/starting it with the hazard light button/switch and the passenger's air bag indicator unplugged in the center vents.

1. Tap twice to "on," wait until the SRS light turns off, then turn off quickly.

2. Wait longer than 6 or 7 seconds (I counted to 14-one-thousand).

3. Tap twice to "on," wait until the SRS light turns off, then turn off quickly.

4. Wait longer than 6 or 7 seconds (I counted to 14-one-thousand).

5. Tap twice to "on," wait until the SRS light turns off, then turn off quickly.

6. Start the car, turn it off, and then turn it back to "on".

The SRS light should be blinking in a different pattern. This means you've reached diagnostic mode.

7. Press the brake and start the car, and the light should go off after the 7 second test-timer.

I hope this has helped you. It worked for me.