Superchargers/Twin charging

[alpalwal]

I have a shupercharger sitting in my room that was originally intended for a suburban with a 454... so it's pretty big. I was wondering how it would work as a custom supercharger for a 240? I know it's less efficent than turbo, etc. But if I don't like it in the end I can just sell it and go a different route.

Here's the link for the unit I have.. I don't have the kit, just the supercharger. http://whipplesuperchargers.co...=1143

Also, what's the opinion on twin charging? using like one of the mercedes superchargers with the electronic clutch so it disengages at higher rpm's when the turbo takes over?

I know all of this is going to take a bunch of work, but I'm just exploring the possibilities and looking to do something different without wasting my time.

[180sx]

AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO FIT THEM? , LOOK UNDER YOUR HOOD AND TELL ME

[Edub1]

Dude! Where did you get that? Do you know what you have?

That is one nice piece of equipment. I can't tell from the picture but does it bolt up to the manifold?

Anyway, I highly doubt that will fit the 240 and it would be a waste even if it did. By the way, the screw type blower is the best FI setup you can get. The top fuel cars use this type.

Anyway, sell that *****!

[jdm_master_X]

a lot of turbos out there on the market today have a much more developed bearing and wheel design that can shorten the lag time by a lot. we're talking high output turbos with hardly any lag (like the Disco Potato or the HKS GT2540R).

The idea of twin charging sounds promising, but these days its considerably low-tech and the cost and time of doing such a thing is only worth showing off in the end. performance benefits aren't going to be any different than most other people's setups, unless you were running a dedicated drag vehicle, then a supercharger with a super large turbo would make sense. but if you are going to see the streets, this idea isn't very reasonable.

[GEO]

PintoTech is going to be wokring on a supercharged setup for the KA

[Iamjohnhayes]

i thought of supercharging my ka but i was going to use a belt driven turbo style supercharger and mount it down where my ac compressor was.

if you can find a way to mount that thing onto a ka good luck and you better post some damn pics

[Chezedik]

Everyone always has wanted to blow the KA, everyone also always gives up. I had a plan for an Eaton M62 (which that looks like an M90), but realized that the loss in driveablility coupled with the amount of fabrication, plus the lack of support made it not work doing. Especially, when a good turbo will make the boost makes it feel as mean on the top end as it did on the bottom, when you first got it.

Hate to be down on you, but do a search, specifically for me as the post creator. You may find that it has been archived. But you will find a lot out about trying to mount an Eaton or Lysholm style blower is fairly difficult to make work. But if you do it, I would like to see it, and would buy one.

[C-Kwik]

I have a shupercharger sitting in my room that was originally intended for a suburban with a 454... so it's pretty big. I was wondering how it would work as a custom supercharger for a 240? I know it's less efficent than turbo, etc. But if I don't like it in the end I can just sell it and go a different route.

Here's the link for the unit I have.. I don't have the kit, just the supercharger. http://whipplesuperchargers.co...=1143

Also, what's the opinion on twin charging? using like one of the mercedes superchargers with the electronic clutch so it disengages at higher rpm's when the turbo takes over?

I know all of this is going to take a bunch of work, but I'm just exploring the possibilities and looking to do something different without wasting my time.

Even with a clutch that disengages, you would need to route around the supercharger when you want the turbo to boost. Depending on flow requirement, the bypass built-into a postive displacement charger may be ratehr restrctive. Either way, it would be complicated and you can probably get some seriously good power and keep lag to a minimum with good turbo selection.

[C-Kwik]

Dude! Where did you get that? Do you know what you have?

That is one nice piece of equipment. I can't tell from the picture but does it bolt up to the manifold?

Anyway, I highly doubt that will fit the 240 and it would be a waste even if it did. By the way, the screw type blower is the best FI setup you can get. The top fuel cars use this type.

Anyway, sell that *****!

Turbos still have better overall efficiency. Top fuels do not use turbos because they are not allowed. In fact, one team made a turbo version and was so fast, they immediately banned the use of turbos. Here's a motor that is essentially half a top fuel motor force fed by 2 turbos. At half the displacement, it puts out 4000 HP vs an estimate 6000 from typical top fuel car(last HP rating I've heard anyways). If any argument were to be made for Top Fuel is that they respond quicker off the line as they have instant boost. A turbo designed for this much pressure and boost will need a bit of spool-up time by comparison. But just looking at the HP comparison can say alot about the efficiency of turbos and superchargers.

http://www.turbomagazine.com/t...eedge/

[Edub1]

No doubt Kwic. In fact, top fuel cars are putting out around 8000 HP these days.

But yah, the point is, the race would be over by the time a giant turbo would spool up.

Anyway, that is one nice piece of equipment the guy has.

[KATwo40]

While you're at it, you might start wearing your underwear on the outside of your pants.

It'll have the same effect as twin charging. You'll still be chaffed and look very silly in public.

[WDRacing]

He said it will take time to spool, we're talking 1 second, not the 4.5-5 seconds the race takes...so it realloy wouldn't be over. Top fuel is not limited by horse power at all...not even close. They are limited by traction. They could be making more power easily, but to what end...smoke and traction loss.

With the right mix of anti lag and electronics, any size turbo can be spooled on the line. ANY size.

[WDRacing]

I have a shupercharger sitting in my room that was originally intended for a suburban with a 454... so it's pretty big. I was wondering how it would work as a custom supercharger for a 240? I know it's less efficent than turbo, etc. But if I don't like it in the end I can just sell it and go a different route.

Here's the link for the unit I have.. I don't have the kit, just the supercharger. http://whipplesuperchargers.co...=1143

Also, what's the opinion on twin charging? using like one of the mercedes superchargers with the electronic clutch so it disengages at higher rpm's when the turbo takes over?

I know all of this is going to take a bunch of work, but I'm just exploring the possibilities and looking to do something different without wasting my time.

I have always wanted to give this a shot. I'd install it directly on-top of the motor and make a custom hood. I wouldn't even bother with the turbo at all, just get a nice header.

You'll need to redesign the intake mani I think. Depends on nhow the plumbing works. What would you sell it for?? If you do sell it.