Supercharger??

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I know most people are all about the TT. I would love to have one myself but i needed some sort of a back seat for my 8 year old daughter. I own a 93 n/a and i do not have a budget big enough to do a TT conversion. I was wondering if anybody knows about supercharging a n/a. I know with the TT conversion, you need to change out pretty much everything. Do you need to do the same with the supercharger? I know i wouldn't be running a high psi, 5-8. I'm just looking for a way to give my Z some extra power without spending $6,000 to do it. Hear is the link for the supercharger. Any feedback would greatly appreciated.

http://www.andysautosport.com/....html


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freakonaleash1187
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Long story short, a supercharger will not work on our Z's, unless you do some HEAVY modifications. In the end, you will spend much more money on supercharging your Z then doing the TT swap.

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That's what i was wondering. I was hoping i wouldn't have to modify it to heavily because of the way it was advertised. Direct Bolt on--everything included. Thank You!!!

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As Jared said, its much more costly than a TT swap to fab up something that work well supercharger wise.

Just save up until you can do the VG30DETT swap

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You sound like a perfect candidate for a 2+2 TT swap!

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or... you could go with the RB swap. theres a guy in my neck of the woods who has a 2+2 with a RB, probably not a budget swap though.

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Fabing a Supercharger is not impossible, you just buy a centri one and mount it, connect it up to a pulley, buy a belt in the size you need and tube it into the TBs like a turbo. You could even do a manifold supercharger with the right kind of adapters and hood clearence. I have been toying with the idea and was thinkin of doing it on my runner car. Personally I like turbos, the sound, the boost

Thing is tuned with an NA motor your gonna hit a 15 psi mark, end of your journey. A tuned TT can break that. No tuning at all on an NA 5-8psi.

Either way, its a journey

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gpelite wrote:Thing is tuned with an NA motor your gonna hit a 15 psi mark, end of your journey. A tuned TT can break that. No tuning at all on an NA 5-8psi.

Either way, its a journey
Are you saying that you can hit 15psi with a turbo setup on a N/A motor? That will never happen. You would be lucky to run 6psi without blowing the motor.

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gpelite wrote:Fabing a Supercharger is not impossible, you just buy a centri one and mount it, connect it up to a pulley, buy a belt in the size you need and tube it into the TBs like a turbo. You could even do a manifold supercharger with the right kind of adapters and hood clearence. I have been toying with the idea and was thinkin of doing it on my runner car. Personally I like turbos, the sound, the boost

Thing is tuned with an NA motor your gonna hit a 15 psi mark, end of your journey. A tuned TT can break that. No tuning at all on an NA 5-8psi.

Either way, its a journey
Please....like I said in the other thread. Don't give people false hope on things that will be super expensive and let them down.

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freakonaleash1187 wrote:
Are you saying that you can hit 15psi with a turbo setup on a N/A motor? That will never happen. You would be lucky to run 6psi without blowing the motor.
I wouldn't say it if it hadn't already been done. Z1motorsports and Ash already did it...

It has been done, there is a huge post on twinturbo.net and I have already talked to Ash. I like to go off of real things, have more faith lol

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nsrZ32 wrote:
Please....like I said in the other thread. Don't give people false hope on things that will be super expensive and let them down.
I guess its a matter of opinion nsrZ32. Im not giving false hopes, just facts. If you get the right ppl you can do a supercharger for less than a TT swap if you are looking for that 5-8psi or even the 15 I mentioned. You can get a used Supercharger and bolt it on with an adapter and tune just like you would with any hybrid application, belt it up, and run it.

I didn't say go spend $10,000 and cross your fingers. If no one was innovative we would all still be driving model Ts. I have seen stranger things than a SC in a Z.

If somone wants to mod a Z in a unique way, more power to them, and I'd like to help any way I can

Supercharger and Z32 is not a sin

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Wow....you've got an itching to try to make an issue out of things today don't you?

I never said it was a sin, I never bashed innovation, I never said it was impossible.

I am realistic. Hope and dream and try "new" stuff all you want. 99% of the time its going to cost more, going to cause more down time, and going to be out of the reach of most people. If somebody doesn't have the budget for a TT conversion I'm sure they'll be willing and able to take their car to some local corner shop and have them bolt on and fab up a custom supercharger per the printed out directions that they found on an internet forum. Cause you know its as simple as bolting it on and running the belts.

Come on man, be realistic and don't preach "new things" from a soap box. People supercharged NA's in the early 90's, people bolted turbos to NA's in the early 90's, yet its still not popular or common place. Do you happen to know why? Because its not the best or most cost effective approach.

Sorry for the rant but it needed to be said.

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All I am doing is providing some framework for an idea, thats it. Sorry if you took it personal


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I agree with nsr, there will be very few people that will be able to tune a N/A Z to run any forced induction at 15psi. Yes, Ash could supply everything, but I still don't believe a lot of people will still be able to do it on their own. The TT swap is just a much better route to go, it has been well documented and it has been proven over and over and over again, why change such a good thing?

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I didn't say it was the easiest Idea, its not. But its an option. Having someone tune the car isn't hard, specialty shops can do it for you.

Some ppl don't care for the TT deal, since its commonplace, I can't speak for all those ppl lol

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just to throw my 2 cents in (canadian), the TT conversion is in genreal going to be cheaper and easier, the SC setup can be done but the people capable of making it work aren't too likely to ask about it, personally the idea of turboing a non turbo doesn't intimidate me as I have enough experience that I feel I can do it safely but for someone with zero experience and asking I always just suggest the TT conversion

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exactly what I am saying

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.......If you want a S/C buy a S/Ced car. Enough said.

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nothing wrong with being adventurus, I've seen some guys put a t bird SC onto and alfa GT6 with a propane carb, it ran pretty good, just not very fast also jim cook used to make a sc kit for the S30, and I've sen other home brew SC's in S30 and Z31's, but still easier to do a turbo swap with a complete donor


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