Hey guys. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before but I think it would be very beneficial if we had a subforum for M37/M56 owners. I'm a new M56 owner and it's nearly impossible to do searches within the forum or from Google to get info that is specific to my car. I end up with a thousand threads that are related to the M35/M45. It's frustrating. I appreciate that NicoClub is the only real forum for us M owners and I'd like to help. Thanks

What others have done is simply specify the car model within the title of the post. For example "M56: Intake and Exhaust Options"

It still pulls up M35/M45 threads because it finds results using this:

Infiniti M35, M37, M45, M56 and Q70 Forums

If you search for m56 you're saying it will display all results with m? What about searching with "m56" surrounded by quotes.

Unfortunately it will.
I just did a test search for"m56" and it returned a thread for m35 only because one poster had m56 as one of his cars listed under username.

It can be frustrating at times.

Click just search without entering anything then at the top click back to advanced search. Then select topics only and enter "m56".

I don't have one, but agree there should be a sub forum for them, and also doubt one will be made. It would make searching far easier because not everyone puts the model in the title.

Altered wrote:It still pulls up M35/M45 threads because it finds results using this: Infiniti M35, M37, M45, M56 and Q70 Forums

This is not true. Specify this forum and search title only.

msvara wrote:Click just search without entering anything then at the top click back to advanced search. Then select topics only and enter "m56".

yup, that does the trick, thanks

TheMajesticKing wrote:Hey guys. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before but I think it would be very beneficial if we had a subforum for M37/M56 owners. I'm a new M56 owner and it's nearly impossible to do searches within the forum or from Google to get info that is specific to my car. I end up with a thousand threads that are related to the M35/M45. It's frustrating. I appreciate that NicoClub is the only real forum for us M owners and I'd like to help. Thanks

I agree. It is frustrating trying to find anything specific to M37/M56 without having to sort through all the M35/M45 stuff. Unfortunately there still aren't that many M37/M56 owners active on the site and performance parts are few for those of us that want to do some work to our newer models. It would be nice to have a separate forum but it would probably be a ghost town.

TDot wrote:I don't have one, but agree there should be a sub forum for them, and also doubt one will be made. It would make searching far easier because not everyone puts the model in the title.

Altered wrote:It still pulls up M35/M45 threads because it finds results using this: Infiniti M35, M37, M45, M56 and Q70 Forums

This is not true. Specify this forum and search title only.

True when searching via Google as mentioned in the first post, but if I decide to search again here I'll try what msvara mentioned

I can't think of a reason not to do it. The sub-forum would get busier as the new M models become cheaper. And the method that msvara suggested is a pain to have to do every time we want to do a search. Not to mention the average person wouldn't know to try that and they too would become frustrated.

As an M35x owner I often visit here and browse the threads. I don't generally care if the thread is for an M35,M45,M37 or M56 what I am looking for are solutions to issues (Which could very well be generally common) or idea triggers on what upgrades to perform. I also recall a prior thread started the same way where the moderator was not convinced enough to justify a different forum. Perhaps a small donation to this board would convince him

wideopn11 wrote:It would be nice to have a separate forum but it would probably be a ghost town.

Unfortunately, yes.

This is the reason we have chosen to keep this forum together for now ... issue comes up periodically.

Z

Like any forum, it needs time to grow. I'm sure the nicoclub forums didn't have 500,000 users overnight. And I'm sure there are subforums on this site that are ghost towns, but they don't cause any harm to the site and they are still helpful at times. (like the Datsun 410 or QR forums)

The issue has forced me to look elsewhere to other forums for info. That's the only reason I posted this.

Agree with MajesticKing, I have had the same experience and had to search elsewhere. Eventually you're going to end up with more M37/56 owners, not sure why not just start now. Very grateful for the forums here but this is an aspect that is difficult for M37/56 owners.

I totally agree with the OP in that we should have separate forums such as gen 1 2 3 and so forth. For instance I'm a club lexus member and I own a Lexus GS 350 well for us we have a Gen 1,2,3 and 4 forum for the GS model. Even before the 2013 GS hit the streets there were people discussing sightings, specifications and preorders. Eventually the forum evolved into people receiving their cars and posting on their purchase and so forth. Simply put the 4th gen GS had a forum before ever being available to the public. Also, I would add that in certain generations there are engine carryovers and although mechanically similar they share no current technology with their newer generations. For example, I like to read up on my 2006 M45 but I'd say about 80% of my findings always take me to pre 2006 models which do not pertain to me. I could only imagine some of our brethren here with M37's and M56's go through; their cars share nothing mechanically to their older generations. To be frank, nobody want's to read about my 2006 M45 when their searching for their 2003 M45 likewise M37 and M56 owners. Simply put, it makes this forum chaotic. I experience this when I get halfway or so through a thread and realize I've been reading about a pre 2006 model. It is really frustrating.

Besides, not being offensive but it does not look good when guy (A) buys a brand new $70,000.00 M56 and wants to share on his experience and guy (B) posts right below him on his antique M talking about how he threw a rod and blew up his engine and scattered it all over the highway or his drivers seat got derailed and right above that guy(C) repaired his car with duct tape.
NO offense. I think this thread is great but could use some changes.
MY .02 cents

So what would it take to get this to happen?

Good discussion.

I'm definitely seeing some pros and cons to it. and I'm seeing some great reasons to do it (and some really lame arguments for it as well ).

The challenge for us is this: When creating a subforum for a specific variation of a chassis, we really have to look at *what* is unique to the M56? Realistically, the drivetrain, but what else? In those instances, there can be helpful info in the M37 section that might get overlooked (if restricting searches *just* to M56).

My experience has been (14 years of doing this now... whew, damn) is that ANY "computer-based" solution is going to be fallible. We've always preferred to have a good core group of knowledgable, helpful experts who have a good understanding of the content of the forums, and can help direct people as they arrive... Kinda like a good librarian. You can go slog through index cards and learn the Dewey Decimal System, or you can ask the nice lady at the desk.

So, with that said, I'm eager to hear some suggestions. Are we talking about splitting M37 and M56 off together, and keeping M35/M45 together? How do you guys see it panning out?

AND, most importantly, who can I rely on to step up and help with moderating the joint (which will include moving threads) once we make the change?

Remember, we're not just one of the top 5 largest automotive forums on the web, but we're also one of the ONLY independently-owned and operated sites... which means I don't get a hell of a lot of rest.

Let's talk. I'm glad you guys are here, and as far as I'm concerned, we really are the only game in town for M owners. I intend, with your help, to keep it that way.

That is a good question, AZhitman about splitting M37 and M56? This seems like it will work,but it take time to get the kinks worked out and so forth along with everyone's patience

Yes. All im asking is that the m37/m56 have their own subforum. There may only be 20 m56 owners on the entire site. Lol. And the forum titles need to be changed to help with google searches.

With what azhitman said, I'm now against the idea...yeah I'm a politician lol. The librarian argument I think is a big point. There are quite a few very knowledgable 37/56 owners who are former 35/45 owners, and if they start frequenting the newer forum, it could leave a vacuum in the older one for direction and insight. Also, there are issues in the 37/56 that can simply be traced back to the 35/45 directly or indirect insight into resolving an issue. Secondly, I don't know about others but when I look to join a forum number of postings, timing, and posting dates have a lot to do with my decision. If I feel the forum is sparse or lack prompt response timing, I'm not joining. Just something to consider.

So here are my new suggestions:
1/ require all users to input "35:/45:/37:/56:" at the beginning of all titles.
--I do know that this may be difficult getting everyone on board, but the new 37/56 guys would be the easiest ones to get to do this especially since they are making the issue, and that will easily resolve their issue.
2/ make it mandatory to put your car model number down before posting a topic, and import that into the topic title.
--This may have site wide implications, unless coded with conditions...even though helpful to all forums
3/ make it mandatory on signing up to the forum to put your model number down and import it in the title.
--This may have site wide implications, unless coded with conditions...even though helpful to all forums

TheMajesticKing wrote:Yes. All im asking is that the m37/m56 have their own subforum. There may only be 20 m56 owners on the entire site. Lol. And the forum titles need to be changed to help with google searches.

...which is a big job.

We can't control thread titles or the usefulness (or uselessness) of those.

Tdot: I disagree. Having a model-specific subforum would not make the m35/m45 forums a ghost town. There are far more M35/M45 owners out there. Its no diffrerent than having diffrerent subforums for any other new generation. With a new generation comes a new set of problems, potential issues, and modifications.

1. The suspensions are totally different.
2. The M56 has an exclusive motor.
3. Akebono brakes are optional on the y51.
4. There are a ton of new features that were not available on the y50.

Actually, almost everything about the M37 and M56 is different from it's respective predecessor. 2 totally different platforms.

AZhitman wrote:

TheMajesticKing wrote:Yes. All im asking is that the m37/m56 have their own subforum. There may only be 20 m56 owners on the entire site. Lol. And the forum titles need to be changed to help with google searches.

...which is a big job.

We can't control thread titles or the usefulness (or uselessness) of those.

Right, I agree that we can't change thread titles but we can certainly change the forum titles. I just think it would be good, moving forward. It doesn't hurt anything at all. It only helps Y51 owners such as myself.

My mistake, I misread that. Derp!

Ok, so the next question is this: If we split it out, who's going to step up and moderate it?

Keep in mind, there's more involved than simply surfing the board and answering questions... but for someone who's passionate about the car and the community, it could be fun.

Damnit. Before I became a dad last year I'd be more than willing. lol

TheMajesticKing wrote:Damnit. Before I became a dad last year I'd be more than willing. lol

2 funny man

So, we've agreed that splitting out M37/56 isn't necessarily a terrible idea... but unless we have staff to manage it (and promote it and tend to it and help it grow), it's just another huge task on my "to-do" list (which would make most of you curl up in a ball and cry ).

Let's keep the discussion going, and when we identify someone who's down to take the reins and drive this chariot, I'm all 'bout it.

sounds good. thanks for being open to it